FB: American Rivers Conference

[DutchFan2004]

And why is oil $95 a barrel and I am still paying over $4.00 per gallon in Chicago?  When oil hit over $120 a barrel I was paying close to the same price

I will leave this for someone to give a conviluted answer regarding supply/demand and the cost to refine

Not to rub it in but we are down to 3.29 for E10.  Can't buy E85 in town here but last time I filled up with E85 it was 2.51. 

Did anyone ever think they would be happy to find gas at $3.29?

Only when others are still paying $4 for it.   

[DutchFan2004]

And why is oil $95 a barrel and I am still paying over $4.00 per gallon in Chicago?  When oil hit over $120 a barrel I was paying close to the same price

I will leave this for someone to give a conviluted answer regarding supply/demand and the cost to refine

Not to rub it in but we are down to 3.29 for E10.  Can't buy E85 in town here but last time I filled up with E85 it was 2.51. 

Did anyone ever think they would be happy to find gas at $3.29?

E85 is garbage anyways.. when you compare it to the milage, it is like buying regular gas for 4 bucks, it is just nicer to get the perception that you are spending less on gas

I get about the same as Walston.  The cost of E85 being about 75% of E10 makes up for the difference in milage.  I get about 80-90% of the mileage on E85 as E10 so I get about a 5-10% savings overall with E85 as with E10. 

[Alfredeneumann]

E85 is garbage anyways.. when you compare it to the milage, it is like buying regular gas for 4 bucks, it is just nicer to get the perception that you are spending less on gas

WHen I fill up it is a wash. Get about 80% of the mileage of 89 octane with it and it is usually about 75% of the cost.

Doolittle made a comment about Wartburg fans abandoning the board after the loss to the Auggies-
Wartburg fans have been very thin on here since the beginning of summer with the exception of Saturdays to catch updates. If you went back, you may see a slight downtick in # of posts by Wartburg fans, but it wasn't much less than any other week.
It used to seem like there was more of us on here, and there may have been, but there was also far less posters from other schools so it seemed like we dominated the conversation more.
I know haven't posted the last 6 months nearly as much as I used to.
Devine is only here on Saturdays.
SK is pretty regular
Warthog is hit and miss
knightfan06 is off during the season
Dsquared finally showed up after a several month hiatus
Neumann is a regular
footballdaddy and Wartburg fan surprise us when they post.

Don't forget the NEWBIE "Outside the Crate" a regular the past 2 Saturday nights who attends games.

[du-sz]

Kohawk Remedy, no matter how terrible the referee's are, they never take the game from a team.  From what many other posters have said, Coe had plenty of opportunities to stop Loras and was even given some questionable calls as well.  I think someone said they were given an INT when the ball clearly hit the ground.  Even one of Coe's defensive ends Aaron Hadenfeldt said that if they had done their jobs, Loras wouldn't of even been in that situation at the end of the game.  

did loras even have any actual yardage that they earned that drive, or was it all penalties?

I can't believe people aren't willing to admit defeat. The ball clearly was snapped milliseconds before the buzzer. I have seen the actual tape and it concurs. Just admit you lost and be good sports. There are plenty of games left in the season!

Go Duhawks!

there is no tape, the person taping didnt the endzone shot didnt get the final play... unless there were 2 people taping the endzone shot.  i'm hoping the line about clearly seeing something in milliseconds is sarcastic

i was with a bunch of loras people that day, and most of them admitted that it had ran out

Umm? There is no tape?  This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6tBG569AVg clearly shows the last play of the game.  On top of that du_sz and myself have the tape of that game in our possession and it clearly shows the final play.

I think you are in denial sir. You lost; get over it and look to next weeks game. It's a long season.

congrats, it shows the last play... it doesnt show the time, which is what i was saying.  there was no tape of the final play with the clock showing.  if you have it, why not show it?  is it because you dont want people to see what really happened? 
i know that this doenst make a difference, but it's terrible that these refs won't be disciplined, and have the chance to screw over another team.  am i bitter? or pissed? sure am.  i am not the only one.  every coe fan and player is pissed about this.  everyone else would be to.  you can't say you wouldnt be.  i hope it comes back to bite loras, by the same refs.  i was with plenty of loras people that said the clock had expired.  there is no way in hell that you can hear the buzzer go off, dont kid yourself.  call me bitter or whatever you want, but i just hate to see a win taken out of players hands.  yeah they shouldnt have been in that situation, you can say that, but they stopped them when it matters, and 60 minutes had been up, and the game should have been over.  they stuffed them on the final play of the game.

I'll say my final bit on the Loras/Coe topic.  We're all pretty mature on this board and I would never try to decieve anyone, and be a homer just so my team will looks good.  The internet video is harder to hear than the actual file in which you can hear the buzzer go off after the snap.  I wish it displayed that better, but its youtube and quality goes down.

When the game happened in real time I didn't think they got the play off either, and neither did a lot of Loras people I spoke with, but the video doesn't lie.  I would probably be upset too, it was amazingly close and the refs did have their share of trouble during the game.

Moving on....I'm worried about a let-down game for Loras next week.  Cornell has played them close in recent years, and it looks like their offense isn't struggling by any means (save the turnovers).  Hopefully we stay hot, or lucky, as we head into the homecoming game against the Rams.

[DBQ1965]

Finally ... I'm back on board after too much time away.

With UD at 1-3 and 2 losses in Conference play, I wonder what it would be if the Spartans had played Wisconsin Lutheran rather than Redlands?  Was that road loss really demoralizing to lead to losses to Luther and BV? 

I'm beginning to think this is going to be long season for the Spartans.  Maybe this bye week will be a help.

But I still will say ...

GO SPARTANS!

[Purple Heys]

All this talk about referee's "screwing" teams out of wins makes me think about other past instances of such occurances, first one comes to mind is the infamous 5th down in the Missouri vs Colorado game.   Any others come to mind, and can anyone think of a time when the officials seemingly tried to give the game to a team but a team still stopped them anyways?

No

I thought the crew did a great job in the Loras win over Coe.

Signed,

Ed Hochuli

[the_mayne_event]

All this talk about referee's "screwing" teams out of wins makes me think about other past instances of such occurances, first one comes to mind is the infamous 5th down in the Missouri vs Colorado game.   Any others come to mind, and can anyone think of a time when the officials seemingly tried to give the game to a team but a team still stopped them anyways?

No

I thought the crew did a great job in the Loras win over Coe.

Signed,

Ed Hochuli

a 2nd from Don Dinkinger

[sportsknight]

All this talk about referee's "screwing" teams out of wins makes me think about other past instances of such occurances, first one comes to mind is the infamous 5th down in the Missouri vs Colorado game.   Any others come to mind, and can anyone think of a time when the officials seemingly tried to give the game to a team but a team still stopped them anyways?

No

I thought the crew did a great job in the Loras win over Coe.

Signed,

Ed Hochuli

a 2nd from Don Dinkinger

That's Wartburg alum Don Denkinger to you.

[Kohawk Remedy]

Kohawk Remedy, no matter how terrible the referee's are, they never take the game from a team.  From what many other posters have said, Coe had plenty of opportunities to stop Loras and was even given some questionable calls as well.  I think someone said they were given an INT when the ball clearly hit the ground.  Even one of Coe's defensive ends Aaron Hadenfeldt said that if they had done their jobs, Loras wouldn't of even been in that situation at the end of the game.  

did loras even have any actual yardage that they earned that drive, or was it all penalties?

I can't believe people aren't willing to admit defeat. The ball clearly was snapped milliseconds before the buzzer. I have seen the actual tape and it concurs. Just admit you lost and be good sports. There are plenty of games left in the season!

Go Duhawks!

there is no tape, the person taping didnt the endzone shot didnt get the final play... unless there were 2 people taping the endzone shot.  i'm hoping the line about clearly seeing something in milliseconds is sarcastic

i was with a bunch of loras people that day, and most of them admitted that it had ran out

Umm? There is no tape?  This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6tBG569AVg clearly shows the last play of the game.  On top of that du_sz and myself have the tape of that game in our possession and it clearly shows the final play.

I think you are in denial sir. You lost; get over it and look to next weeks game. It's a long season.

congrats, it shows the last play... it doesnt show the time, which is what i was saying.  there was no tape of the final play with the clock showing.  if you have it, why not show it?  is it because you dont want people to see what really happened? 
i know that this doenst make a difference, but it's terrible that these refs won't be disciplined, and have the chance to screw over another team.  am i bitter? or pissed? sure am.  i am not the only one.  every coe fan and player is pissed about this.  everyone else would be to.  you can't say you wouldnt be.  i hope it comes back to bite loras, by the same refs.  i was with plenty of loras people that said the clock had expired.  there is no way in hell that you can hear the buzzer go off, dont kid yourself.  call me bitter or whatever you want, but i just hate to see a win taken out of players hands.  yeah they shouldnt have been in that situation, you can say that, but they stopped them when it matters, and 60 minutes had been up, and the game should have been over.  they stuffed them on the final play of the game.

I'll say my final bit on the Loras/Coe topic.  We're all pretty mature on this board and I would never try to decieve anyone, and be a homer just so my team will looks good.  The internet video is harder to hear than the actual file in which you can hear the buzzer go off after the snap.  I wish it displayed that better, but its youtube and quality goes down.
When the game happened in real time I didn't think they got the play off either, and neither did a lot of Loras people I spoke with, but the video doesn't lie.  I would probably be upset too, it was amazingly close and the refs did have their share of trouble during the game.

Moving on....I'm worried about a let-down game for Loras next week.  Cornell has played them close in recent years, and it looks like their offense isn't struggling by any means (save the turnovers).  Hopefully we stay hot, or lucky, as we head into the homecoming game against the Rams.

In that case, are you able to put it into a windows media player or quicktime and post it somewhere for download??

[footballdaddy]

All this talk about referee's "screwing" teams out of wins makes me think about other past instances of such occurances, first one comes to mind is the infamous 5th down in the Missouri vs Colorado game.   Any others come to mind, and can anyone think of a time when the officials seemingly tried to give the game to a team but a team still stopped them anyways?

No

I thought the crew did a great job in the Loras win over Coe.

Signed,

Ed Hochuli

Geez, Heys! I about spit up my lunch! That was too funny!

[footballdaddy]

As far as how often I post, I was raised to only speak when I have something to say. I also don't want to post any bulletin board material before a game. If I've seen a game in person I will comment on it. Other than that, I'll keep quiet.

[LCNorse]

Kohawk Remedy, no matter how terrible the referee's are, they never take the game from a team.  From what many other posters have said, Coe had plenty of opportunities to stop Loras and was even given some questionable calls as well.  I think someone said they were given an INT when the ball clearly hit the ground.  Even one of Coe's defensive ends Aaron Hadenfeldt said that if they had done their jobs, Loras wouldn't of even been in that situation at the end of the game.  

did loras even have any actual yardage that they earned that drive, or was it all penalties?

I can't believe people aren't willing to admit defeat. The ball clearly was snapped milliseconds before the buzzer. I have seen the actual tape and it concurs. Just admit you lost and be good sports. There are plenty of games left in the season!

Go Duhawks!

there is no tape, the person taping didnt the endzone shot didnt get the final play... unless there were 2 people taping the endzone shot.  i'm hoping the line about clearly seeing something in milliseconds is sarcastic

i was with a bunch of loras people that day, and most of them admitted that it had ran out

Umm? There is no tape?  This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6tBG569AVg clearly shows the last play of the game.  On top of that du_sz and myself have the tape of that game in our possession and it clearly shows the final play.

I think you are in denial sir. You lost; get over it and look to next weeks game. It's a long season.

congrats, it shows the last play... it doesnt show the time, which is what i was saying.  there was no tape of the final play with the clock showing.  if you have it, why not show it?  is it because you dont want people to see what really happened? 
i know that this doenst make a difference, but it's terrible that these refs won't be disciplined, and have the chance to screw over another team.  am i bitter? or pissed? sure am.  i am not the only one.  every coe fan and player is pissed about this.  everyone else would be to.  you can't say you wouldnt be.  i hope it comes back to bite loras, by the same refs.  i was with plenty of loras people that said the clock had expired.  there is no way in hell that you can hear the buzzer go off, dont kid yourself.  call me bitter or whatever you want, but i just hate to see a win taken out of players hands.  yeah they shouldnt have been in that situation, you can say that, but they stopped them when it matters, and 60 minutes had been up, and the game should have been over.  they stuffed them on the final play of the game.

I'll say my final bit on the Loras/Coe topic.  We're all pretty mature on this board and I would never try to decieve anyone, and be a homer just so my team will looks good.  The internet video is harder to hear than the actual file in which you can hear the buzzer go off after the snap.  I wish it displayed that better, but its youtube and quality goes down.
When the game happened in real time I didn't think they got the play off either, and neither did a lot of Loras people I spoke with, but the video doesn't lie.  I would probably be upset too, it was amazingly close and the refs did have their share of trouble during the game.

Moving on....I'm worried about a let-down game for Loras next week.  Cornell has played them close in recent years, and it looks like their offense isn't struggling by any means (save the turnovers).  Hopefully we stay hot, or lucky, as we head into the homecoming game against the Rams.

In that case, are you able to put it into a windows media player or quicktime and post it somewhere for download??

There is nothing you can do about it...refs blow calls all of the time, it sucks...but thats life...one of the things that is great about football is that it teaches you so many things about life...one of the them is that sometimes you can't do jack &*^% about stuff...move on

[DutchFan2004]

All this talk about referee's "screwing" teams out of wins makes me think about other past instances of such occurances, first one comes to mind is the infamous 5th down in the Missouri vs Colorado game.   Any others come to mind, and can anyone think of a time when the officials seemingly tried to give the game to a team but a team still stopped them anyways?

No

I thought the crew did a great job in the Loras win over Coe.

Signed,

Ed Hochuli

Geez, Heys! I about spit up my lunch! That was too funny!

I had a good chuckle with that too.  I have learned not to be eating when reading hear.  I have had similar instances and learned the hard way.

[the_mayne_event]

All this talk about referee's "screwing" teams out of wins makes me think about other past instances of such occurances, first one comes to mind is the infamous 5th down in the Missouri vs Colorado game.   Any others come to mind, and can anyone think of a time when the officials seemingly tried to give the game to a team but a team still stopped them anyways?

No

I thought the crew did a great job in the Loras win over Coe.

Signed,

Ed Hochuli

a 2nd from Don Dinkinger

That's Wartburg alum Don Denkinger to you.

neighbor don denkinger to me

[KCDutch]

All this talk about referee's "screwing" teams out of wins makes me think about other past instances of such occurances, first one comes to mind is the infamous 5th down in the Missouri vs Colorado game.   Any others come to mind, and can anyone think of a time when the officials seemingly tried to give the game to a team but a team still stopped them anyways?

No

I thought the crew did a great job in the Loras win over Coe.

Signed,

Ed Hochuli

a 2nd from Don Dinkinger

That's Wartburg alum Don Denkinger to you.

neighbor don denkinger to me

Always wondered, does he use a cane or seeing eye dog to get around?