FB: American Rivers Conference

[DutchFan2004]

Turnovers costed Coe the game this past Saturday.  With Pinkney out of the game, the dutch OL were able to move up on the LB's Harrison, Thomas, and Yeast that allowed the Dutch to run up the middle. The back-up qb Wallace did not look good at all yesterday, heck the offense looked horrible most of the game! I thought Wallace did a good job throwing the ball away when there wasn't anyone open, but sometimes you just have to give your WR's a chance to make a play instead of throwing it out of bounds everytime.  Hammes continues to be Coe's offense, but only he can do so much.  Defense looked good, but gave up a long play in the 3rd qtr.  I hope Coe can shake off this dissapointing start of the season and finish out with wins.  Should be interesting how they come together in these last few games.

by taking a look at the stats from the game, it looks like Centrals game plan was to keep DE Wilkens out of the game.  He only had 2 tackles while the other DE Hadenfeldt had 10.  I did see Central trading the TE quite a bit, I wonder if that was to help on Wilkens and limit his impact on the game.  Another side note is that the Freshmen QB that came in in the 4th qtr looked pretty good...I guess that is something to look forward to.

The QB that finished the game for Coe did do better than the other two but you have to take into consideration that he was going against the 2's from Central as well.

[Klompen]

Turnovers costed Coe the game this past Saturday. 

I'm not sure I would agree with that, since half the time we were trading TO's.  At one time it was 27-3, and with turnovers on both sides, I think there was more to it than that.  If you want to say injuries, decisions to settle for 3 when you needed 7, etc. cost you the game, I might be quicker to agree.  Of course, I think the Dutch had a little to do with it too.   

[Walston Hoover]

What's the difference between God and Steve Spurrier?
God doesn't think he's Steve Spurrier

I'm wondering if Coe fans are still thinking at 2-5 that Staker was the real first choice for a coach. Not that I am minding this right now.

[Kohawk Krazy]

Turnovers costed Coe the game this past Saturday. 

I'm not sure I would agree with that, since half the time we were trading TO's.  At one time it was 27-3, and with turnovers on both sides, I think there was more to it than that.  If you want to say injuries, decisions to settle for 3 when you needed 7, etc. cost you the game, I might be quicker to agree.  Of course, I think the Dutch had a little to do with it too.   

How do you consider a 4-1 advantage to Central in Turnovers, along with blocking a punt, to be exchanging?  Yes, Central was fumbling the ball alot, but they recovered them, unlike the Kohawks.  Turnovers cost Coe this game.

[Charlie Kohawk]

I'm wondering if Coe fans are still thinking at 2-5 that Staker was the real first choice for a coach. Not that I am minding this right now.

I wasn't at Saturday's game, but this Coe fan remains solidly in Staker's corner. Coaches coach and players play. It isn't the coaches who are putting the ball on the ground or failing to execute in the red zone.

[Kohawk Remedy]

Turnovers costed Coe the game this past Saturday. 

I'm not sure I would agree with that, since half the time we were trading TO's.  At one time it was 27-3, and with turnovers on both sides, I think there was more to it than that.  If you want to say injuries, decisions to settle for 3 when you needed 7, etc. cost you the game, I might be quicker to agree.  Of course, I think the Dutch had a little to do with it too.   

How about turnover field position:

Coe INT - Coe 29yrd line
Coe Fumble - Coe 21yrd line
Coe Fumble- Dutch 37yrd line
Coe Fumble - Coe 25 yrd line
Coe blocked punt - Coe 7 yrd line

Central fumble - Coe 24yrd line
Central INT - Coe 25yrd line

Central = 10pts off of turnovers
Coe = 0pts off of turnovers

I don't know about you, but I would say that the turnover (field position) killed the game for the kohawks!

[DutchFan2004]

Turnovers costed Coe the game this past Saturday. 

I'm not sure I would agree with that, since half the time we were trading TO's.  At one time it was 27-3, and with turnovers on both sides, I think there was more to it than that.  If you want to say injuries, decisions to settle for 3 when you needed 7, etc. cost you the game, I might be quicker to agree.  Of course, I think the Dutch had a little to do with it too.   

How about turnover field position:

Coe INT - Coe 29yrd line
Coe Fumble - Coe 21yrd line
Coe Fumble- Dutch 37yrd line
Coe Fumble - Coe 25 yrd line
Coe blocked punt - Coe 7 yrd line

Central fumble - Coe 24yrd line
Central INT - Coe 25yrd line

Central = 10pts off of turnovers
Coe = 0pts off of turnovers

I don't know about you, but I would say that the turnover (field position) killed the game for the kohawks!

Blocked punts do not count as turnovers.  Coe had 4 TO's to Central's 2 that is 2-1 margin.  Central scored 27 points take the 10 off turnovers and Central still wins by 7 so to say that TO's cost you the game is not the whole truth. How about your inability to move the ball? The last seven points scored by Coe were against the second team after the game was all but over.  There was more to the loss than just turnovers IMHO.  The Coe offense was not the Coe offense of old.  I think that is really the problem.  The TO's did put the Coe D in a bad situation time and again but they did fend the Dutch off a couple of times to avoid getting stomped.  TO"s were not the total cause of the defeat but IMHO that side of the ball did lose it for the Kohawks.

[Thunderbolt]

 I hope they are still in a giving mood come Saturday.

[Charlie Kohawk]

Blocked punts do not count as turnovers.  Coe had 4 TO's to Central's 2 that is 2-1 margin.  Central scored 27 points take the 10 off turnovers and Central still wins by 7 so to say that TO's cost you the game is not the whole truth. How about your inability to move the ball? The last seven points scored by Coe were against the second team after the game was all but over.  There was more to the loss than just turnovers IMHO.  The Coe offense was not the Coe offense of old.  I think that is really the problem.  The TO's did put the Coe D in a bad situation time and again but they did fend the Dutch off a couple of times to avoid getting stomped.  TO"s were not the total cause of the defeat but IMHO that side of the ball did lose it for the Kohawks.

Give us some credit. At least no one is blaming the officials.     

[DutchFan2004]

+ k for that Charlie I got a huge laugh out of that one.  I was not trying to pick a fight with Remedy here.  Just I think he is a little short sighted.  I agree that the TO's hurt the Kohawks but Central had two long drives to put up ten points.  Both of them the first drive of each half.  That was enough to win the game.  I think if Kohawk Remedy just stepped back and took a look at the big picture he might change his mind.

[Thunderbolt]

Blocked punts do not count as turnovers.  Coe had 4 TO's to Central's 2 that is 2-1 margin.  Central scored 27 points take the 10 off turnovers and Central still wins by 7 so to say that TO's cost you the game is not the whole truth. How about your inability to move the ball? The last seven points scored by Coe were against the second team after the game was all but over.  There was more to the loss than just turnovers IMHO.  The Coe offense was not the Coe offense of old.  I think that is really the problem.  The TO's did put the Coe D in a bad situation time and again but they did fend the Dutch off a couple of times to avoid getting stomped.  TO"s were not the total cause of the defeat but IMHO that side of the ball did lose it for the Kohawks.

Give us some credit. At least no one is blaming the officials.     

No, they were in Storm Lake Saturday. Someone elses turn this week I hope.

[Floyd in Iowa City]

I hope they are still in a giving mood come Saturday.

Ditto!  The Norse will always take the help, as 160 total yards on offense is not going to get it done on a weekly basis.

The Norse Offense has been up and down this season so far, so hopefully this Saturday is another of the 2008 version of the "up."

I am not complaining by the way as the Norse won a road game at B.V. for the first time in a while and the 2nd overall against the Beavers!  Someone earlier in the year said the Norse were 1-10 in the last eleven road games that they had to stay overnight away from campus (@ Central, @ Simpson, and @ B.V.), so I guess the record is now 2-10.

The Coe Defense statistically looks like they are still going to be tough this weekend.  The average PPG against them is a little higher than some years, but they look very strong in many of the other categories.

I know they are 2-5, but it looks to me like they have had several close games (besides Loras) that could have gone either way.  Given that the Norse just played a game to a score that sounds like a baseball game, I am expecting another close game this weekend.

[Cochuck]

The problem is with Coe's Offense ,   and that all but one of their offensive coaches is under the age of 25.  With their offense from past years this team would be winning the conference.    Unfortunately, it takes both.  Which side of the ball does the older Staker coach?

[Klopenhiemer]

Hey guys I am back.  I spent all last week in Baltimore for the National Park and Recreation Show.  Then I headed to Iowa City to catch the Hawks game on Saturday.  Last week was a blast, we did not have to be on the floor working the exhibits until noon every day so the nights were filled with "entertaining" customers.  In other words, wrecking your liver!

Tough loss for the Beavers on Saturday.  Sounded like a typical Luther vs. BV win.  Hard nosed game that came down to the wire.  I am not selling off the BV gear yet, as there is still a lot of season left.  We still hold the cards as Luther has to beat Wartburg and win out to stay on top. 

BV is in the same spot at 04' and I hope I am not disapointed at the end of the season.  They have Cornell and Waldorf.  If they lose either of these games it will be a big disapointment.  They also have Central at home and Coe on the road. 

I am confident that the Beavers will come back this weekend and pound Waldorf and be ready for the following weeks game. 

Congrats to all the winners and lets hope the board keeps moving.  Great post 5WOL....I thought the same thing for a while.  We talked so much during the off season that I figured this board would be rolling during the season.  With 4 weeks left in the conference season lets make it the best. 

GO BEAVERS!!!

Hey Klop....are you employed in National Park and Recreation area?  I'm thinking about doing a masters in Leisure & Recreation Administration but jobs aren't looking good as Fed and State are cutting and closing many parks.  Any advice??

Its actually a great field to be in.  With all of the park districts in the state of Illinois we can ride out a storm.  Sales will drop in developing areas, but since a lot of the burbs are built out or at a sustainable spot, the money will keep flowing.  I am on the sales end of the specturm and its been a good year.  Not as good as last year, but still a good year.  Last year was a bin buster of a year.  PM if you want to talk about it more.  Its pretty fun and the directors at these park districts make a good wage.  I have a lot of connections and places where you could get started.  

[Floyd in Iowa City]

Crazy MIAC standings as well:

Carleton 3-1, 5-1 overall
Concordia 3-1, 4-2 overall
St. John's 3-2, 5-2 overall
St. Thomas 3-2, 4-2 overall
Bethel 3-2, 4-3 overall
Augsburg 2-2, 4-2 overall
Gustavus 2-2, 4-2 overall
St. Olaf 1-3, 3-3 overall
Hamline 0-5, 1-5 overall

It is strange that both the IIAC and the MIAC had a similar sort of overhaul in the standings early in the season compared to how both leagues have been in recent years.  Much like the Iowa Conference, the recent powers in the MIAC now look closer to the top than they did a couple of weeks ago.  It will be entertaining to see how it plays out as it sounds like Carleton lost a close game due to kicking woes while the Johnnies pulled another close win out (with some controversy around the goal line).

St. Thomas is very close to being a 5-0 team.  I am a little surprised that they are even 3-2 on the season with the new coaching staff and the way things have gone for them in recent seasons.

I still would love to see Carleton play well for the entire season.