FB: American Rivers Conference

[Klompen]

How do you consider a 4-1 advantage to Central in Turnovers, along with blocking a punt, to be exchanging?  Yes, Central was fumbling the ball alot, but they recovered them, unlike the Kohawks.  Turnovers cost Coe this game.

C 3-8  C29   16-Patrick Wallace pass intercepted by 28-Ryan Schmidt at the COE45,
                  28-Ryan Schmidt return 3 yards to the COE42 (89-C Reifschneider).
--------------- 3 plays, 2 yards, TOP 00:56 ---------------

 D 1-10 C42   CENTRAL COLLEGE drive start at 13:15.
 D 1-10 C42   23-David Zachary rush for 9 yards to the COE33 (46-Ross Yeast).
 D 2-1  C33   19-Jarred Lackey rush for 2 yards to the COE31, 1ST DOWN CEN (47-Kyle
              Brockmeyer).
 D 1-10 C31   19-Jarred Lackey pass complete to 7-Jason Crall for 6 yards to the COE25,
              out-of-bounds (46-Ross Yeast), QB hurry by 34-Tate Harrison.
 D 2-4  C25   19-Jarred Lackey rush for 2 yards to the COE23 (33-Calvin Thomas;34-Tate
              Harrison).
 D 3-2  C23   Timeout Central College, clock 11:13.
 D 3-2  C23   19-Jarred Lackey rush for loss of 1 yard to the COE24, fumble by 19-Jarred
              Lackey recovered by COE 34-Tate Harrison at COE24 (19-Jarred Lackey).--------------- 5 plays, 18 yards, TOP 02:07 ---------------

     C 1-10 C24   COE COLLEGE drive start at 11:08.
     C 1-10 C24   3-Sam Hammes rush for 8 yards to the COE32 (8-Greg Best;28-Ryan
                  Schmidt).
     C 2-2  C32   16-Patrick Wallace rush for loss of 7 yards to the COE25, fumble by
                  16-Patrick Wallace recovered by CEN 30-Austin Hill at COE21 (18-Tom
                  Breitbach).--------------- 2 plays, minus 3 yards, TOP 00:49 ---------------

C 2-3  C28   3-Sam Hammes rush for loss of 1 yard to the COE27, fumble forced by
                  50-Nate Doeden, fumble by 3-Sam Hammes recovered by CEN 50-Nate Doeden at
                  COE25 (24-Michael Rozum).--------------- 2 plays, 4 yards, TOP 00:35 ---------------

 D 1-10 C25   CENTRAL COLLEGE drive start at 03:50.
D 1-10 C25   19-Jarred Lackey pass intercepted by 18-Tom Breitbach at the COE2, 18-Tom
              Breitbach return 0 yards to the COE2 (1-Cam Waugh)

I guess that is how it seemed like we were trading turnovers.  For awhile it didn't seem that either offense wanted to keep the ball.  I didn't say the TO's were equal, just that it wasn't all one sided either.  Final count was 4-2 with one blocked punt.  Yes, that is advantage Central, but think about it, Coe interception us at the 2 yard line.  One could argue that it would have been more lopsided if not for Central's turnovers.  I just don't think that you can say TOs were the only thing that cost you the game.  When twice all we did with it was turned it back over to you.  

Turnovers aided in the loss, but Coe's offense had a hard time getting into Central territory, so Coe wasn't in scoring position when the turnovers took place and we could only get field goals out of our good field position early on.  Plus, when you did get in scoring position, you settled for 3.  I thought sure Coe was going to fake kick or something.  I was real happy to see Coe go for the field goal.  

[Floyd in Iowa City]

The problem is with Coe's Offense ,   and that all but one of their offensive coaches is under the age of 25.  With their offense from past years this team would be winning the conference.    Unfortunately, it takes both.  Which side of the ball does the older Staker coach?

That is interesting given how many potential assistant coaches must live or would be willing to live around the Cedar Rapids/Iowa City area.  There are a lot more employment situations for a day job to go with the coaching IMO than living around the Decorah area or out in Storm Lake.  There are both positives and negatives to having a campus around or away from larger populations.

Is this the coaching staff that Coe really wanted (more or less), or how much of this stuff is more about the timing of when Raeburn left?

[Klompen]

I don't know about you, but I would say that the turnover (field position) killed the game for the kohawks!

I agree, field position killed the game for the Kohawks.

[Klopenhiemer]

Klopenhiemer please go take a look at your picks.  You missed a game and picked two teams to win the same game.  Too much refreshments at work and Kinnick I suspect.   

Thanks for the information. 

And no...I can hold my liqure...I went to BV not Central

[DutchFan2004]

Klopenhiemer please go take a look at your picks.  You missed a game and picked two teams to win the same game.  Too much refreshments at work and Kinnick I suspect.   

Thanks for the information. 

And no...I can hold my liqure...I went to BV not Central

I didn't think you were sick just a little hung over!!!!

[the_mayne_event]

The problem is with Coe's Offense ,   and that all but one of their offensive coaches is under the age of 25.  With their offense from past years this team would be winning the conference.    Unfortunately, it takes both.  Which side of the ball does the older Staker coach?

That is interesting given how many potential assistant coaches must live or would be willing to live around the Cedar Rapids/Iowa City area.  There are a lot more employment situations for a day job to go with the coaching IMO than living around the Decorah area or out in Storm Lake.  There are both positives and negatives to having a campus around or away from larger populations.

Is this the coaching staff that Coe really wanted (more or less), or how much of this stuff is more about the timing of when Raeburn left?

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Coe always has a lot of GA coaches on the team, or very young coaches.  Mainly because of the reason i pointed to above.

[the_mayne_event]

I don't know about you, but I would say that the turnover (field position) killed the game for the kohawks!

I agree, field position killed the game for the Kohawks.

Offensive inefficiency killed the Kohawks, along with:
Field position
The start of the 3rd qtr (on defense)
Tournovers
Special Teams (not only the blocked punt, but kick off coverage) - how many times did Central start a drive on the Coe side of the field?
Execution - again, on the offense
Coaching miscues - come on, dont kick a field goal when you need waaayyy more then 3

[the_mayne_event]

I hope they are still in a giving mood come Saturday.

this has to be one of the first years in recent memory that Coe is going to be negative in turnover margin for the year.  i'm guessing they have more INT's then TD passes?

[Klopenhiemer]

Klopenhiemer please go take a look at your picks.  You missed a game and picked two teams to win the same game.  Too much refreshments at work and Kinnick I suspect.   

Thanks for the information. 

And no...I can hold my liqure...I went to BV not Central

I didn't think you were sick just a little hung over!!!!

Ahhh no hang overs for me.  I just never quit drinking.  Staying lit all the time makes the day go quicker

[Kohawk Remedy]

I hope they are still in a giving mood come Saturday.

this has to be one of the first years in recent memory that Coe is going to be negative in turnover margin for the year.  i'm guessing they have more INT's then TD passes?

Season totals so far:
Coe - 5 passing TDs, 9 rushing TDs, 9 INTs, 11 fumbles lost
Opponent - 9 passing TDs, 9 rushing TDs, 11 INTs, 6 fumbles lost

[oldNorse]

Keep it light Norse.........have fun on Saturday.

John MaCay, former USC coach (record 1000 - 1, or so) became the coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs professional FB team (record 1-1000 or so).  When asked, "What do you think of the execution of your team" he replied. "I'm in favor of it".

[DutchFan2004]

I don't know about you, but I would say that the turnover (field position) killed the game for the kohawks!

I agree, field position killed the game for the Kohawks.

Offensive inefficiency killed the Kohawks, along with:
Field position
The start of the 3rd qtr (on defense)
Tournovers
Special Teams (not only the blocked punt, but kick off coverage) - how many times did Central start a drive on the Coe side of the field?
Execution - again, on the offense
Coaching miscues - come on, dont kick a field goal when you need waaayyy more then 3

I mentioned that before.  As a Dutch fan I was happy to see a FG kicked then.  I didn't think they would be able to get three more scores to tie let alone win.  It seems like they were more worried about laying an egg on the scoreboard than with winning.  Just my two cents.  I felt at that point if they had scored a TD they had enough time to score two more TD's to win but not enough time for three scores.  

[Klompen]

I mentioned that before.  As a Dutch fan I was happy to see a FG kicked then.  I didn't think they would be able to get three more scores to tie let alone win.  It seems like they were more worried about laying an egg on the scoreboard than with winning.  Just my two cents.  I felt at that point if they had scored a TD they had enough time to score two more TD's to win but not enough time for three scores.  

I agree.  I remember the year Central played at St. Johns and lost 10-9.  I was so disgusted when we decided to go for yet another field goal, that would leave us a point short rather than going for the win with time running low.  To me it was like the coaches were conceding the game.  I know Kac said afterwards that he thought the defense could hold to a 3 and out and we would have had one more shot, but I disagreed with that thought even befofre the outcome was decided.  Sometimes you have to show you have faith in your team.  I agree that Coe's coaches were more concerned with getting a score than winning.  Had we not put in the second string, that might have been their only score.  So they got what they wanted, but they also told the team they didn't think they could come back. 

[lamonitigers]

Just checking to see how this thing works.  I have some thoughts for Klompen on his Central Leadership posting.

[doolittledog]

Welcome to the board.  Looking forward to reading your thoughts.