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Walston Hoover

Quote from: Klopenhiemer on October 20, 2008, 05:27:48 PM

Ahhh no hang overs for me.  I just never quit drinking.  Staying lit all the time makes the day go quicker :D
I believe it was Old Blue Eyes who said "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day."
You come to Wartburg to play for championships

Klopenhiemer

Quote from: Walston Hoover on October 20, 2008, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on October 20, 2008, 05:27:48 PM

Ahhh no hang overs for me.  I just never quit drinking.  Staying lit all the time makes the day go quicker :D
I believe it was Old Blue Eyes who said "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day."

And my grandmother, if she were still alive, would instantly love you for that comment.  We played old blue eyes at her funeral she was in love with his music so much. 
"If Rome was built in a day, then we would have hired their contractor"

Charlie Kohawk

Quote from: Kohawk Remedy on October 20, 2008, 05:52:43 PM
this has to be one of the first years in recent memory that Coe is going to be negative in turnover margin for the year.  i'm guessing they have more INT's then TD passes?
Season totals so far:
Coe - 5 passing TDs, 9 rushing TDs, 9 INTs, 11 fumbles lost
Opponent - 9 passing TDs, 9 rushing TDs, 11 INTs, 6 fumbles lost
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Thank goodness for Kohawk Remedy! Time to get over what's ailin' me.
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

lamonitigers

Klompen, Senior Leadership is alive and well on this year's Central team.  In three years of watching Central football (haven't missed a game yet) I have never seen "overt leadership" demonstrated from the Central captains or seniors.  As in the past this year's seniors and captains are leading by example. The Coe game was a good example, excellent blocking on offense gave Lackey time to throw and holes for the running backs to run.  On defense, pressure and containment by the DL on the Coe quarterback made for a long day for the Kohawks. The Central captains are Nathan Craft, S-Back, Spenser Remick, O-Line, and Matt VerMeer, Wide Rec.  With the exception of VerMeer who made a great catch Saturday, Craft and Remick will never have "break-out games" in the way of stats and touchdowns because of the positions they play.  But their leadership is well demonstrated by their great blocks which inspire the whole team to a higher level.  Look where we are, 4 and 2 and we have quietly rejoined the hunt for the conference championship.  Lets not be in a hurry to identify "our next stars."  Lets keep the competition guessing.  "Down season," I don't think so. Go Dutch!

Charlie Kohawk

OK, sounds like a universal thumbs down on the Kohawks Saturday, across the board. I wasn't there (and, boy howdi!), but I have to think any game without Pinckney in the middle is going to be different than when he is. Dude clogs the middle like none other.

But can we move on now?

Luther's next and I'm pretty sure the Coe track record is pretty good. Plus, though it shouldn't be, it's a road game. And Luther wasn't exactly explosive against BV (though I did notice the officiating crew, rest assured they won't be in Decorah).

Any notable lunch stops in Norseland?
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

Charlie Kohawk

Anyone else see the guy wearing Fred Jackson's uni at the Red Sox-Rays game seven?
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

lamonitigers

Didn't mean to degrade Coe, Klompen struck a nerve about Central leadership.  But I'm aired out and ready to move on.

Coe stands are great to watch from and your new field is sharp.  Beat Luther!

qbdriver

Quote from: DutchFan2004 on October 20, 2008, 06:20:18 PM
Quote from: the_mayne_event on October 20, 2008, 05:21:35 PM
Quote from: Klompen on October 20, 2008, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: Kohawk Remedy on October 20, 2008, 02:53:37 PM
I don't know about you, but I would say that the turnover (field position) killed the game for the kohawks!
I agree, field position killed the game for the Kohawks.

Offensive inefficiency killed the Kohawks, along with:
Field position
The start of the 3rd qtr (on defense)
Tournovers
Special Teams (not only the blocked punt, but kick off coverage) - how many times did Central start a drive on the Coe side of the field?
Execution - again, on the offense
Coaching miscues - come on, dont kick a field goal when you need waaayyy more then 3

I mentioned that before.  As a Dutch fan I was happy to see a FG kicked then.  I didn't think they would be able to get three more scores to tie let alone win.  It seems like they were more worried about laying an egg on the scoreboard than with winning.  Just my two cents.  I felt at that point if they had scored a TD they had enough time to score two more TD's to win but not enough time for three scores.  

Exactly!  Coe seems to be happy with a FG instead of having the guts to "go for it".   Can you say "conservative".   They even tried a field goal at the end of the first half with a first down and 10 seconds left.  They had time for at least one more play that would have gotten them closer.   I have been at the last two home games for Coe.  Being a Wartburg Alum but living in CR it is easy to see why the "lady kohawks" are 2-5:

•   Their old coach is at Wabash 6-0, ranked 4th or 6th depending on what poll you look at
•   No fire in warm-ups or during any part of the game - talk about a lack of senior leadership
•   Predictable offensive play calling
•   Soft Offensive line - they do have a great running back in #3
•   No QB
•   A secondary that can't cover anyone

Nice new field turf but otherwise shabby facilities that don't impress recruits (it appeared they did have some recruits on campus, but with those performances the last two Saturdays, I am sure they went home saying, "I'd rather go to Wartburg"
 
What they do have is two of the best defensive ends in the IIAC and three hard hitting linebackers.  If those five guys are not first team all conference, and then something is wrong.   I see they have the # 1 defense in total yards with that offense that keeps them on the field all day long.  Oh well, at least they get to play a lot.  With the loss of #53 though they are in trouble up the middle, have fun Luther.

Hopefully for Warburg,  Central and the rest of the IIAC,  the Coe powers that be will do continue to not support the football program and keep putting more emphasis on soccer, swing choir and the drama department.   See you in the playoffs!




Charlie Kohawk

Quote from: qbdriver on October 20, 2008, 11:16:31 PM
Exactly!  Coe seems to be happy with a FG instead of having the guts to "go for it".   Can you say "conservative".   They even tried a field goal at the end of the first half with a first down and 10 seconds left.  They had time for at least one more play that would have gotten them closer.   I have been at the last two home games for Coe.  Being a Wartburg Alum but living in CR it is easy to see why the "lady kohawks" are 2-5:

•   Their old coach is at Wabash 6-0, ranked 4th or 6th depending on what poll you look at
•   No fire in warm-ups or during any part of the game - talk about a lack of senior leadership
•   Predictable offensive play calling
•   Soft Offensive line - they do have a great running back in #3
•   No QB
•   A secondary that can't cover anyone

Nice new field turf but otherwise shabby facilities that don't impress recruits (it appeared they did have some recruits on campus, but with those performances the last two Saturdays, I am sure they went home saying, "I'd rather go to Wartburg"
 
What they do have is two of the best defensive ends in the IIAC and three hard hitting linebackers.  If those five guys are not first team all conference, and then something is wrong.   I see they have the # 1 defense in total yards with that offense that keeps them on the field all day long.  Oh well, at least they get to play a lot.  With the loss of #53 though they are in trouble up the middle, have fun Luther.

Hopefully for Warburg,  Central and the rest of the IIAC,  the Coe powers that be will do continue to not support the football program and keep putting more emphasis on soccer, swing choir and the drama department.   See you in the playoffs!
I could argue with some of this, but won't. I do agree with the defensive front, but contend teams have avoided Coe's pre-season All-Americans. For good reason. Hadenfelt on the other side is no slouch, but teams don't even try Wilkens' way this year. Same for #18. The big difference, scheme wise, is that Tommy is mostly a non-factor on offense.

At this point, go wildcat. Put TB at QB and let's go. I have no inside info, but that's what I'd do. He's not getting much work at DB and at least he would attempt a pass, if given the opportunity.

Let's not let Simpson be the feather in our cap!
4 IIAC football championships
8 NCAA football playoff appearances
13 straight wins over Cornell in the oldest football rivalry west of the Mississippi

sportsknight

Quote from: Walston Hoover on October 20, 2008, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: Klopenhiemer on October 20, 2008, 05:27:48 PM

Ahhh no hang overs for me.  I just never quit drinking.  Staying lit all the time makes the day go quicker :D
I believe it was Old Blue Eyes who said "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day."

Amen, brother.
"Graduating from college in four years is like leaving a party at 10:30." - Chuck Klosterman

kohawkfan

Quote from: Cochuck on October 20, 2008, 03:59:59 PM
The problem is with Coe's Offense :'(,   and that all but one of their offensive coaches is under the age of 25.  With their offense from past years this team would be winning the conference.    Unfortunately, it takes both.  Which side of the ball does the older Staker coach?

The older Staker coaches the defense...
In the words of Bobby Knight: "I mean, I deeply hope we beat their ass today."

kohawkfan

After reading the comments on Coe's secondary, I'm wondering if qbdriver has been to many Coe games this season??   
The defense has most definitely been the bright spot and has kept Coe competitive!  Check out the Coe website under schedule/results, 5 of the 7 "top performers" have been defensive players:  #33 Thomas, #34 Harrison, #9 Polich, #94 Wilkens, #99 Hadenfeldt and they earned this distinction in conference games.  (Only 2 offense players, Feller and Hammes have received the honor and that occured in the 2 early non-conference games-against tough opponents, tho.) Don't get me wrong, the offensive can look real good at times-they just aren't very consistent.   
As far as the former coach, Raeburn, I think he had a very good offensive mind.    However, I think that Coach Staker is well liked by his players and together they will turn things around and finish strong.
Go Kohawks! Beat Luther! 
       
In the words of Bobby Knight: "I mean, I deeply hope we beat their ass today."

Kohawk Krazy

Quote from: qbdriver on October 20, 2008, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: DutchFan2004 on October 20, 2008, 06:20:18 PM
Quote from: the_mayne_event on October 20, 2008, 05:21:35 PM
Quote from: Klompen on October 20, 2008, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: Kohawk Remedy on October 20, 2008, 02:53:37 PM
I don't know about you, but I would say that the turnover (field position) killed the game for the kohawks!
I agree, field position killed the game for the Kohawks.

Offensive inefficiency killed the Kohawks, along with:
Field position
The start of the 3rd qtr (on defense)
Tournovers
Special Teams (not only the blocked punt, but kick off coverage) - how many times did Central start a drive on the Coe side of the field?
Execution - again, on the offense
Coaching miscues - come on, dont kick a field goal when you need waaayyy more then 3

I mentioned that before.  As a Dutch fan I was happy to see a FG kicked then.  I didn't think they would be able to get three more scores to tie let alone win.  It seems like they were more worried about laying an egg on the scoreboard than with winning.  Just my two cents.  I felt at that point if they had scored a TD they had enough time to score two more TD's to win but not enough time for three scores.  

Exactly!  Coe seems to be happy with a FG instead of having the guts to "go for it".   Can you say "conservative".   They even tried a field goal at the end of the first half with a first down and 10 seconds left.  They had time for at least one more play that would have gotten them closer.   I have been at the last two home games for Coe.  Being a Wartburg Alum but living in CR it is easy to see why the "lady kohawks" are 2-5:

•   Their old coach is at Wabash 6-0, ranked 4th or 6th depending on what poll you look at
•   No fire in warm-ups or during any part of the game - talk about a lack of senior leadership
•   Predictable offensive play calling
•   Soft Offensive line - they do have a great running back in #3
•   No QB
•   A secondary that can't cover anyone

Nice new field turf but otherwise shabby facilities that don't impress recruits (it appeared they did have some recruits on campus, but with those performances the last two Saturdays, I am sure they went home saying, "I'd rather go to Wartburg"
 
What they do have is two of the best defensive ends in the IIAC and three hard hitting linebackers.  If those five guys are not first team all conference, and then something is wrong.   I see they have the # 1 defense in total yards with that offense that keeps them on the field all day long.  Oh well, at least they get to play a lot.  With the loss of #53 though they are in trouble up the middle, have fun Luther.

Hopefully for Warburg,  Central and the rest of the IIAC,  the Coe powers that be will do continue to not support the football program and keep putting more emphasis on soccer, swing choir and the drama department.   See you in the playoffs!





You also realize that they were a Top 5-10 Program BEFORE he got there.  It's not like he became a miracle worker in less than one season or anything.  He's a great coach, but you may be making it look like he is turning them around or something.

If your a Wartburg Alum, why do you go to so many Coe games.  Not like you live 5 hours away, go watch them play, we'd much rather prefer it.  You probably wear Wartburg gear to the games, you sound like that type.

Thunderbolt

Quote from: Charlie Kohawk on October 20, 2008, 10:25:57 PM
OK, sounds like a universal thumbs down on the Kohawks Saturday, across the board. I wasn't there (and, boy howdi!), but I have to think any game without Pinckney in the middle is going to be different than when he is. Dude clogs the middle like none other.

But can we move on now?

Luther's next and I'm pretty sure the Coe track record is pretty good. Plus, though it shouldn't be, it's a road game. And Luther wasn't exactly explosive against BV (though I did notice the officiating crew, rest assured they won't be in Decorah).

Any notable lunch stops in Norseland?
Yes. The Americana, hidden in the Subway parking lot, just before Roscoes. Irish nachos for appetizers and a beer, before or after the game is hard to beat.

Walston Hoover

Big game in Indianola this weekend.
Jim WIlliams being inducted into the Simpson HOF.
Simpson folks talk about Glogowski as if he's the second coming of Christ himself. Knights D will need to show up again this Saturday.
You come to Wartburg to play for championships