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[pg04]

The attendance comparison remains apples vs. oranges for me....

The stadium, the size of the schools, the size of the cities where the games are played.  I wouldn't even necessarily give you half.  Just my opinion though. 

[Pat Coleman]

Don't forget the lead time with which the games are played.

[frank uible]

Just the facts. No value judgments.

[gordonmann]

Here is some historical data on BCS bowl games' TV ratings and attendance so you can play the Stagg Bowl Ratings and Attendance game at home.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/tvratings


2006: Mount Union/UW-Whitewater   ESPN   1.26   6,051
2005: Mount Union/UW-Whitewater   ESPN2   0.63  4,619
2004: Linfield/Mary Hardin-Baylor   ESPN2   0.52   3,240
2001: Mount Union/Bridgewater   ESPN2   0.6   7,992
2000: Mount Union/St. John's   ESPN2   .5   4,643
1999: Pacific Lutheran/Rowan   ESPN2   .3  4,101
1988: Mount Union/Rowan   ESPN   1.3   5,145

[Mr. Ypsi]

Uh oh, Gordon, your link lists the Poinsettia Bowl rating as 0.89 (not 0.52).

You sure you want to risk your job over mere facts!

[Pat Coleman]

Like I said ... no listing for 2006.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Like the 2005 Poinsettia Bowl and its 0.52 rating? The Stagg Bowl that year did an 0.63.

This year's Stagg Bowl did a 1.26, though I can't find TV ratings on other bowls yet.

This is what I was teasing you and Gordon about.

[Pat Coleman]

I'm aware. But I'm betting Stagg 06 outrated at least one I-A bowl.

[Just Bill]

My favorite was always the Chick-fil-a Peach Bowl...

MMMMMMMMM Chicken. 

Not far behind is the Papajohns.com bowl and the emerald nut bowl!!

Five words...

Poulan Weed Eater Independence Bowl

[footballfan413]

Here is some historical data on BCS bowl games' TV ratings and attendance so you can play the Stagg Bowl Ratings and Attendance game at home.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/tvratings


2006: Mount Union/UW-Whitewater   ESPN   1.26   6,051
2005: Mount Union/UW-Whitewater   ESPN2   0.63  4,619
2004: Linfield/Mary Hardin-Baylor   ESPN2   0.52   3,240
2001: Mount Union/Bridgewater   ESPN2   0.6   7,992
2000: Mount Union/St. John's   ESPN2   .5   4,643
1999: Pacific Lutheran/Rowan   ESPN2   .3  4,101
1988: Mount Union/Rowan   ESPN   1.3   5,145

What struck me the most is the difference in TV ratings when the game is played on ESPN instead of ESPN2.  The game is much easier for the casual viewer to stumble upon.  Remaining on ESPN could help the Stagg Bowl develop a following among the general sports fan. 

[Knightstalker]

This Memorial Day we should all remember it is not about the parties and sales.  It is to remember those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for their friends, family and country.  Take some time this year and attend your towns observations.  Take some time out if you are with family and friends to remember these young men and women.  If you see the men and women of the VFW and their Auxilaries giving out poppies, take one and give a small donation if you can, wear it to remember.  Look up the poem "On Flanders Fields" and you will understand the poppy.

Yesterday the town of Secaucus had the first of their two memorial day ceremonies.  The Thursday before Memorial day is in a park and they have hot dogs, an Uncle Sam impersonater for the kids, the elementary school choir and the Boy Scouts present the colors.  It is very nice.  Memorial Day the  VFW and American Legion run the show.

The ceremony was very touching and dedicated to a young Marine from town who just gave his life for his country in April.  The mayor announced that the town will continue it's tradition of naming public roads and parks after soldiers and sailors who have paid the ultimate price by renaming a small park in town after Miguel Maricial III.  A mother who sat strongly and quietly through it all broke down finally.

After the ceremony I had the duty to approach the family and offer my thanks and condolences.

This is what this weekend is about.  A ceremony like this really hammers home what the holiday is all about.

Michael Dougherty
Sr. Vice Commander VFW Memorial Post 3776, Secaucus, NJ.

[roocru]

This Memorial Day we should all remember it is not about the parties and sales.  It is to remember those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for their friends, family and country.  Take some time this year and attend your towns observations.  Take some time out if you are with family and friends to remember these young men and women.  If you see the men and women of the VFW and their Auxilaries giving out poppies, take one and give a small donation if you can, wear it to remember.  Look up the poem "On Flanders Fields" and you will understand the poppy.

Yesterday the town of Secaucus had the first of their two memorial day ceremonies.  The Thursday before Memorial day is in a park and they have hot dogs, an Uncle Sam impersonater for the kids, the elementary school choir and the Boy Scouts present the colors.  It is very nice.  Memorial Day the  VFW and American Legion run the show.

The ceremony was very touching and dedicated to a young Marine from town who just gave his life for his country in April.  The mayor announced that the town will continue it's tradition of naming public roads and parks after soldiers and sailors who have paid the ultimate price by renaming a small park in town after Miguel Maricial III.  A mother who sat strongly and quietly through it all broke down finally.

After the ceremony I had the duty to approach the family and offer my thanks and condolences.

This is what this weekend is about.  A ceremony like this really hammers home what the holiday is all about.

Michael Dougherty
Sr. Vice Commander VFW Memorial Post 3776, Secaucus, NJ.

Amen!!!!!

[runyr]

Here is some historical data on BCS bowl games' TV ratings and attendance so you can play the Stagg Bowl Ratings and Attendance game at home.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/tvratings


2006: Mount Union/UW-Whitewater   ESPN   1.26   6,051
2005: Mount Union/UW-Whitewater   ESPN2   0.63  4,619
2004: Linfield/Mary Hardin-Baylor   ESPN2   0.52   3,240
2001: Mount Union/Bridgewater   ESPN2   0.6   7,992
2000: Mount Union/St. John's   ESPN2   .5   4,643
1999: Pacific Lutheran/Rowan   ESPN2   .3  4,101
1988: Mount Union/Rowan   ESPN   1.3   5,145

What struck me the most is the difference in TV ratings when the game is played on ESPN instead of ESPN2.  The game is much easier for the casual viewer to stumble upon.  Remaining on ESPN could help the Stagg Bowl develop a following among the general sports fan. 

Interesting.
Just in case someone notices, there's a typo on the ESPN MTU/Rowan game.  It was 1998.
BTW, MTU won that game 44-24.
Fact check source:
http://www.mtunionfootball.com/resultsbyyear/results1991-00.htm

[K-Mack]

D1 licenses 32 Bowl Games.

They invite 64 teams to play in the post-season and still cannot get it right some years.

D3 now has 31 Post-season games and settles it on the field!

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl?  Why is that credit union spending the big bucks on a bowl game?  They could be offering a higher rate on their CD's or lower rates on their auto loans!

My favorite was always the Chick-fil-a Peach Bowl...

MMMMMMMMM Chicken. 

Not far behind is the Papajohns.com bowl and the emerald nut bowl!!

Nothing will ever top the Poulan Weed Eater Bowl, although Gaylord Hotels Music City bowl and the aforementioned Credit Union and Nut bowls are up there.

I see Just Bill has mentioned my favorite bowl.

Anyway, just re-mentioning this, also noted on the D3 Players in the Pros Thread:

I'm not sure if I've discussed this before, doing a list of famous alumni of D3 universities, players and non-players ... although technically, poker great Doyle Brunson (who apparently did some time at Hardin-Simmons) is a player.

Will have to work on this list and find a place for it.

Along with Doyle, there's Belichick, Mangini and Rod Marinelli (although Pat likes to point out that Cal Lu wasn't D3 when he played there), Phil Savage, Joan Benoit-Samuelsson, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, etc. ... I'm sure there are many, many more good ones. May have to start the list here until we find a solid home for it on the board or on FAQ. There might already be a general thread floating around somewhere, but it's so hard to remember when we're out of season

Oh, and the founder and CEO of Dollar Tree. Randolph-Macon in the house, y'all!

[K-Mack]

Here is some historical data on BCS bowl games' TV ratings and attendance so you can play the Stagg Bowl Ratings and Attendance game at home.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/tvratings


2006: Mount Union/UW-Whitewater   ESPN   1.26   6,051
2005: Mount Union/UW-Whitewater   ESPN2   0.63  4,619
2004: Linfield/Mary Hardin-Baylor   ESPN2   0.52   3,240
2001: Mount Union/Bridgewater   ESPN2   0.6   7,992
2000: Mount Union/St. John's   ESPN2   .5   4,643
1999: Pacific Lutheran/Rowan   ESPN2   .3  4,101
1988: Mount Union/Rowan   ESPN   1.3   5,145

What struck me the most is the difference in TV ratings when the game is played on ESPN instead of ESPN2.  The game is much easier for the casual viewer to stumble upon.  Remaining on ESPN could help the Stagg Bowl develop a following among the general sports fan. 

That's a good point.