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[Ralph Turner]

( Wesley at Widener Fri. night)
Package: Cortland at Brockport, 1 p.m.; Rochester at St. John Fisher, 7 p.m.

Now that could make a triple header especially for you K-mack , and it still gives you just one stayover nite..

I had briefly considered that, although getting from West Chester to Ro-chester by car in that window of time would not be very fun.

Both package plans may be moot as McMinnville is being discussed for that weekend. But maybe our Around the East homies could pick it up.

Garbage plates vs Oregon?

Its a no brainer K-Mack, do the right thing!

It is a voice of maturity that is asking you to do the right thing.  You know that atherosclerotic disease is the #1 killer of American men.  I would presume that you have a family history that may include hypertension, diabetes and elevated  serum cholesterol levels.  The garbage plate is probably the last thing that your cardioloigst will recommend.

Do it for your family.  Avoid the garbage plate, and go to McMinnville where the air is fresh and clean.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Didn't know if conversation surrounding this one would justify its own thread, but thought I had to mention it and at least save my "research" online somewhere.

Per our own Kickoff writers and the Detroit Free Press, Olivet apparently has a freshman who has served more than one tour of duty in Iraq.

And while the natural inclination is to not just tip the hat to the fella, but to want to write about it, I'm usually torn when I hear about a player who's served, because in Division III, it's not the first time we've heard of such a case.

Off the top of my head, I recall:

- Greg Washington (2003-04?, East Texas Baptist) had served (one D3football.com notable here)

- a Westfield State captain was injured on duty in Iraq in '06

- a Ripon linebacker served in Iraq

- Mark Simon wrote about a guy who had served. I thought he was from Norwich, turns out he was from Delaware Valley and served in Kosovo

- and there was a player, Schussler, at St. Norbert last year who had been in Iraq.

Division III also features several service-related schools (U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, Coast Guard Academy, Norwich, SUNY-Maritime, Mass. Maritime Academy, Maine Maritime Academy) which likely feature some players or ex-players with ties to being in service overseas.

All of that is not to say that all Iraq/active duty stories are the same, because they aren't. Every one of those guys has done something interesting, if not very important.

The question is when, if ever, does it become not news anymore?

Should we always write about it out of respect for their service? Should we find the unique angles and feature it then?

I realize we're the journalists and we get paid to make those calls, but I guess it can't hurt to ask.

(sure I forgot some too, feel free to list on this thread)

K-Mack

There can never be enough or too much  press for our service personal! Can it be
repetative, sometimes sure, but more than not it shows those people that no matter what our political position is on this "CONFLICT" we are behind our troops.  Living through the Viet Nam "Conflict"( No I didn't go to Nam) and seeing what our troops went through coming home was a CRIME. Will some of the stories be missed, sure. But until there are no more soldiers in harms way it's always a story
   

[K-Mack]

( Wesley at Widener Fri. night)
Package: Cortland at Brockport, 1 p.m.; Rochester at St. John Fisher, 7 p.m.

Now that could make a triple header especially for you K-mack , and it still gives you just one stayover nite..

I had briefly considered that, although getting from West Chester to Ro-chester by car in that window of time would not be very fun.

Both package plans may be moot as McMinnville is being discussed for that weekend. But maybe our Around the East homies could pick it up.

Garbage plates vs Oregon?

Its a no brainer K-Mack, do the right thing!

It is a voice of maturity that is asking you to do the right thing.  You know that atherosclerotic disease is the #1 killer of American men.  I would presume that you have a family history that may include hypertension, diabetes and elevated  serum cholesterol levels.  The garbage plate is probably the last thing that your cardioloigst will recommend.

Do it for your family.  Avoid the garbage plate, and go to McMinnville where the air is fresh and clean.

Oh man, this is getting good.

Upstate, I believe, offered to pick up the tab at Nick's and anywhere in between Game 1 and the nightcap.

Linfield & Hardin-Simmons fans, what are you gonna do?

(doesn't really accept bribes, but it can't hurt to fantasize)

We also got an awesome Minnesota idea for the 15th and advice to book a room now for UW-Whitewater at UW-La Crosse, as Oktoberfest fills the streets and the available hotel rooms in NW Wisconsin at that weekend (Sept. 29)

Will share those e-mails later.

Kickoff, my friends, will soon be all-consuming ... just as soon as I get this little thing called my wife's birthday out of the way this weekend.

[wildcat11]

K-Mack,

You've watched a game at a SCIAC school but not at a NWC school?  I think you need to complete the deal and come out West to the Catdome.  A September Saturday afternoon in McMinnville is a nice way to spend a day.

[gordonmann]

K-Mack:

As I can attest, the Linfield experience is one worth having.  You'll enjoy the visit, the people and the game.  That's not a knock on a trip to Rochester, just an informal advocacy to head out there at some point.

[theoriginalupstate]

K-Mack:

As I can attest, the Linfield experience is one worth having.  You'll enjoy the visit, the people and the game.  That's not a knock on a trip to Rochester, just an informal advocacy to head out there at some point.

BOOOO!

[realistic]

Wow -- OK.  While I share Upstate's passion for East Football and Garbage Plates I do have to agree that a trip to McMinnville is something not to be missed.  I was lucky enough to be out there for John's 400th.  That being said I would lobby for hitting NY for the 9/22 Ithaca-SJF meeting.  September is awesome in Ithaca and while Cortaca is a must see....you'll be a lot warmer in September.

Always appreciate the stories on Vet's K-Mack.  Ithaca had a Senior in 1998 named Troy Canada who returned kicks and was a receiver who was in the 1st Gulf War.

[theoriginalupstate]

Wow -- OK.  While I share Upstate's passion for East Football and Garbage Plates I do have to agree that a trip to McMinnville is something not to be missed.  I was lucky enough to be out there for John's 400th.  That being said I would lobby for hitting NY for the 9/22 Ithaca-SJF meeting.  September is awesome in Ithaca and while Cortaca is a must see....you'll be a lot warmer in September.

Always appreciate the stories on Vet's K-Mack.  Ithaca had a Senior in 1998 named Troy Canada who returned kicks and was a receiver who was in the 1st Gulf War.

Couldnt agree more realistic, just trying to get K-Mack to SJF to see the Cardinals destroy Rochester.  Rochesters national humiliation would be amazing, for me anyways.

[Pat Coleman]

Rochester's national humiliation would be amazing, for me anyways.

Because ... ?

[theoriginalupstate]

Rochester's national humiliation would be amazing, for me anyways.

Because ... ?

The University of Rochester has this elitist attitude, they think they should be an Ivy School. 

[footballfan413]

K-Mack,

You've watched a game at a SCIAC school but not at a NWC school?  I think you need to complete the deal and come out West to the Catdome.  A September Saturday afternoon in McMinnville is a nice way to spend a day.

Could not agree more, K-Mack.  Be sure and check out the terrific BBQ cooked at the back of the parking lot by a couple of guys who own local restaurants!  Excellent! 

[frank uible]

Some of the Ivy schools have elitist attitudes in that they think their football belongs in the Big Ten.

[smedindy]

Some schools are also jealous of other school's names and reputations.

And some schools that may be 'elitist' aren't good enough in football to worry about. (I'm looking at you, Oberlin... )

We all know that there's only one school of pure evil and darkness. It's 27 miles south of Crawfordsville in the town of Greendingle. Heeeee! 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Some schools are also jealous of other school's names and reputations.

And some schools that may be 'elitist' aren't good enough in football to worry about. (I'm looking at you, Oberlin... )

We all know that there's only one school of pure evil and darkness. It's 27 miles south of Crawfordsville in the town of Greendingle. Heeeee! 

Now, Smed - any school with a British 'banger' at qb can't be ALL bad!

(Spud Dick, Spotted Dick - it's all for the wurst.)

[gordonmann]

Some of the Ivy schools have elitist attitudes in that they think their football belongs in the Big Ten.

Really?  I didn't monitor Penn football all that closely when I was a grad student there a couple years ago.  But what I did see indicated the team takes the sport seriously with no delusions of grandeur.  The only small rumblings I heard were in regard to participating in the Division I-AA playoffs, not receiving the attention and prestige of major Division I programs.  My sense was that Ivy teams, much like the NESCAC, were pretty happy with their place in the athletic world.