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[K-Mack]

I'm going to update the "D3 brushes with fame" list after Kickoff is done. Thought I'd add these training camp sites:

Baltimore  McDaniel College  Westminster, Md.  July 31 (rookies, vets) 
Buffalo  St. John Fisher College  Pittsford, N.Y.  July 29 (rookies, vets) 
Indianapolis  Rose-Hulman Institute  Terre Haute, IN  July 27 (rookies and vets) 
Kansas City  Wisconsin-River Falls  River Falls, Wis.  July 28 (rookies and vets) 
Pittsburgh  St. Vincent College  St. Vincent College  July 31 (rookies and vets) 
Green Bay  St. Norbert College  DePere, Wis.  July 25 (rookies), July 27 (vets) 

Up to 6 this year!

New Orleans - Millsaps ?

You're right, it wasn't listed like that on the list I snagged this off of, but they sure have been at the 'Saps.

Seven!

I think Kenyon was the sticker I saw. Not sure. Saw Bates again. Maybe it's the same car ... either that or Bates is sending a gang of fools (I can talk that way on this thread!) down to D.C.

RC,
No idea what happened to the Wing-T thread. That wasn't back on the old board, was it? Perhaps the years are starting to run together.

[frank uible]

Maybe Bates is dropping stickers from the sky like World War II propaganda leaflets.

[repete]

I swear we used to have a Wing-T thread, but the search didn't turn it up. (granted, I didn't search all that hard)

anyway, there's a feature running on itin USA Today tomorrow. It's a prep story, but the graphics breakdown how to run the traps and counters, which is pretty cool.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/default.htm

May update with the exact link later, but I'd poke around there for now.

Super multimedia with that wing-t ...

Not quite as wild as the single wing with the spinner and buck lateral -- now those would make some fun graphics... there was an Iron Range team in Minnesota that ran it until the early '80s (Eveleth) and another (Intl Falls -- nicknamed the Broncos after homeboy Nagurski) that ran a fabulous double wing. Always a good time when those teams got together ...unless you were a DT.

[frank uible]

The article did not come close to showing the wing-T's full array of possible sweeps, buck based actions, dives, bellies, options, counters, boots and roll outs.

[repete]

True enough, Frank . . . but for a general interest publication there was a lot more depth (and effort) than you usually see.

[PA_wesleyfan]

 One of the highschool teams here in P.A runs the wing-t and they wear a  dark  the color of the ball. But they still  have to wear road whites....They ahve had some very talented kids run it and it is a cool thinbg to watch on game tapes when all the schemes can be seen

[K-Mack]

True enough, Frank . . . but for a general interest publication there was a lot more depth (and effort) than you usually see.

Yeah, I agree with you both. It's no Bucksweep.com, but that did a lot for the casual fan.

I know I mentioned this before, but the single wing actually made a comeback in Northern Va. about 5 years ago. A few teams who didn't have the spread offense personally went to versions of the Wing-T and single-wing to keep up, and they were so well-coached it actually worked. Osbourn (Manassas, Va.) won the Division 6 state title this year running the single wing, I believe. Last time I covered them they didn't have a true QB, any of 3 backs could get the snap, they ran the spin plays, etc.

A nightmare to keep the stats for, but fun to watch just to see it.

Cool that teams can win with it too.

[frank uible]

There used to be (maybe still is) an association of single wing coaches, which had (has possibly) a website full of interesting information. Use your googling talents if you care!

[frank uible]

National Single Wing Coaches Association it is called.

[Ron Boerger]

http://www.nswca.org/

[Warren Thompson]

As an unabashed devotee of the single wing, leather helmets, and long-sleeved
striped jerseys (per Princeton in the 1950s), allow me to add that a quick-and-dirty
Google search will turn up any number of sites dealing with this formation (and the double wing and the "Wildcat").

Long live the bucklateral!

[rscl70]

Perry High School in Stark County, OH runs the Wing T to perfection.  Keith Wakefield introduced the Wing T at Perry in 1982.  His teams went 157-72 in the Federal League, which is considered one of the top HS Leagues in Ohio.  "Wake" is now the Offensive Line Coach at Mount Union, but the new staff at Perry has continued to run the Wing T with much success.  It's fun to watch and once they get the defense off balance it can gobble up some big yardage.

[K-Mack]

Defenisvely, I have experience getting used by the Wing-T, then figuring it out and twice snuffing it.

I'm a fan of it for its uniqueness, and it's ability to get the most out of available talent, not so much for its effectiveness.

I don't know if this is the complete key to stopping it, but we were often told "follow the guards -- they'll lead you to the play."

That's why I liked the USAT diagram. Simple as it was, it showed a variation where the guards take you away from the play.

I also remember one year when we used corners (me) to take on the guards while the OLBs and DEs blew up the plays. Definitely not one of my more finesse-filled days, but always cool to say you did it!

Almost enough Wing-T talk to have its own thread. 

[frank uible]

Using guards pulling away from the point of attack is an integral part of the wing-T.

[skunks_sidekick]

   Speaking of Perry and the Wing-T......my PeeWee team just scrimmaged the two 6th & 7th grade Perry teams last Saturday.  They teach that offense to the kids from the time they are in 3rd grade.  Needless to say.....our kids had a hard time finding the football.  That and the fact that they were way bigger and faster than us made for a very long day!