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Keith's column as submitted only contained the word Linfield. I filled it out. You can take me to task for it if you don't like it but it doesn't make it inaccurate.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

wildcat11

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 08, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
Keith's column as submitted only contained the word Linfield. I filled it out. You can take me to task for it if you don't like it but it doesn't make it inaccurate.

Never said I didn't like it...just adding my own thought/info to part of an article that I enjoyed reading. 
Quote from: wildcat11 on January 08, 2007, 01:44:12 PM
Enjoyed the first part of the Year in Review.




K-Mack

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 08, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
Keith's column as submitted only contained the word Linfield. I filled it out. You can take me to task for it if you don't like it but it doesn't make it inaccurate.

That explains the other e-mail I got about this.
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Pat Coleman

Ehh, yeah -- I tired to write it with a little edge so it would fit in. Tried to help you out, man. :)
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

K-Mack

Impossible to hit it all. This is a good one I missed.

Quote> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Feedback:
> Date: Mon, January 8, 2007 6:14 pm
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subject:
> Notes: Nice job as usual on your Part I of Around the Nation. I
> wuuld just mention that you might have considered Hope's 49-48 OT win vs.
> Alma (and eventual Gagliari winner Josh Brehm) this year on Oct. 7 as being
> among the top comeback wins for teams this year. Hope down by 34-10 at
> the half and playing lousy, scored on the last play of regulation; then
> on a 4th down play in OT. Brehm had a tremendous day and was decimating
> Hope. However, Hope's players never gave up (one of the best efforts
> I've ever seen in a game or played in including during my collegiate
> career). The win was a key one as without it, Hope would have not had
> the momentum and it is doubtful it would have gone on to "run the table"
> and get the AQ as we did after a horrendous 0-3 start. Just thought I'd
> add that into the mix! Anyway, looking forward to your Part II of
> ATN/The Year in Review next week. Thanks.
>
> Todd (formerd3db)
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Todd,
Thanks, that is a good one. I thought I'd read about a thousand games and I still missed one.

Just thought of another too, when you said 34-10 ... I think Ithaca led St. John Fisher 10-0 at the half and gave up 34 unanswered in the second half.

Anyway, just goes to show you how huge Division III is and how difficult it is to reel all the way in. I'll post this on the Post Patterns thread, if nowhere else.
--
Keith McMillan
D3football.com National Columnist
Keith@D3football.com
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K-Mack

Quote from: K-Mack on January 08, 2007, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 08, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
Keith's column as submitted only contained the word Linfield. I filled it out. You can take me to task for it if you don't like it but it doesn't make it inaccurate.

That explains the other e-mail I got about this.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 08, 2007, 09:09:23 PM
Ehh, yeah -- I tired to write it with a little edge so it would fit in. Tried to help you out, man. :)

I'm OK with it, just was a little confused why the writer was so focused on 5-4 when Linfield was 6-3 this season.
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K-Mack

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 08, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
Keith's column as submitted only contained the word Linfield.

Wait,
You used an earlier version of the column, not the one I said I was re-sending when I talked to you. I sent myself a copy ... it was titled Edited Year-in-Review Part 1 and arrived (or should have) at 1:14.

I don't know when I'll have time, but I guess I'll go through tonight and update it with the fixed version.

That explains why you say it only had the word "Linfield" when I remembered writing a sentence for that.

Here's what I wrote for that particular item:

QuoteLinfield's 6-3 season may have been a down year for Wildcats fans who've grown accustomed to the playoffs, but it extended their streak of winning seasons to 51. Central, meanwhile, last had a losing season in 1960.
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Pat Coleman

I didn't get a revise. I waited until about 3 a.m. after our conversation earlier in the night and figured you'd gotten too tied up at USA Today to do your final writethru.

Feel free to edit -- your password access should still work out.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

K-Mack

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 08, 2007, 09:51:43 PM
I didn't get a revise. I waited until about 3 a.m. after our conversation earlier in the night and figured you'd gotten too tied up at USA Today to do your final writethru.

Feel free to edit -- your password access should still work out.

Okie doke everyone,
Enjoy the inside access Post Patterns gives you! ... Our well-oiled machine has slowed to a crawl in the offseason, but Pat and I have it figured out.

I'll work on it really late tonight, but a touched-up version should up Tuesday morning. I have to take mine and read it side-by-side with the one Pat edited ... we both made a lot of small grammatical and fact-checking fixes.

The bad news is I should probably be using that time to work on part 2.

But at least we won't have this problem again next week.

It was so much easier, Pat, when we sat next to each other at work.  :)

More from formerd3db:

QuoteKeith:

You are welcome; and thank you as well.  Please know that I was not intending to be critical of you at all.  I can imagine how tedious it is for you and your colleagues to review all those games!  Thanks for considering posting a "blurb" about this as you mentioned.  If you do, a couple of clarifications:  in my zeal to mention this to you, I should have checked the details (i.e. my facts!) before relating the "re-cap" - just goes to show you how "the memory fades for us old-d3'er's" even though I was at the game and on the sidelines.  Specifically,

1)  The final score was 49-43 (not 49-48)
2)  The half-time score was actually 30-10; Hope came back to tie the game with 0.27 (i.e. 27 seconds) left in the last of regulation as I mentioned, but missed the extra-point to cause the OT.
3) Hope actually scored first in the OT, but again, missed the extra point giving them a 49-43 lead.  Alma got down near the red zone, but on the last play of the game i.e. fourth and 2, their pass was tipped, giving Hope the incredible win.

My apologies for the minor errors; but just wanted to make sure I gave you the correct facts.  If you need more detail, you can go to your own D3 North section and pull up Hope's official site; the re-cap of the game and box score/stats are obviously posted on there.  Thanks again, Keith, and also for the great job you do and another great year of writing for all of us.  Take care.

Best,
Todd (formerd3db) 
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Pat Coleman

Sorry, man -- hope the job works out better for you than it did for me.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

K-Mack

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 08, 2007, 11:55:51 PMSorry, man -- hope the job works out better for you than it did for me.

You got 12 (or however many) years out of this place, I think you did OK.

Everything is a stepping stone to your next journey ... or some other kind of coachspeak.

Now back to your regularly scheduled blabber about Around the Nation. :)
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K-Mack

OK boys and girls,
Thanks for bearing with us. I sent Pat an old version and sent the new version (accidentally) to myself. Duh.
 
Anyway, the corrected/updated Part 1 is up now, with significant changes to 3 or 4 items and minor edits to about half of the items. If you haven't read it already, you won't know the difference.

If you have, read it again!

Come on. It's better than working.

Look for Part 2 probably next Monday morning.

Thanks for caring ... Keith
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K-Mack

Though the front page does not yet reflect, part 2 of the ATN Year in Review (players, coaches & teams) is up under the Around the Nation link on the left side of the home page.
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and one of the two voices behind the sonic #d3fb nerdery that is the ATN Podcast.

K-Mack

Former author, Around the Nation ('01-'13)
Managing Editor, Kickoff
Voter, Top 25/Play of the Week/Gagliardi Trophy/Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year
Nastradamus, Triple Take
and one of the two voices behind the sonic #d3fb nerdery that is the ATN Podcast.

frank uible

K-Mack: Good job with the Year in Review.