FB: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

Obviously they weren't better in every aspect. But, thats like TLU saying in 2004 that they were 9 points from the national championship.

The exact quote is ...
"in a lot of respects"

After last Saturday's game, HSU is now my favorite for the ASC, but I am hoping for an ASC Tri-Championship.

I think CruAlumn58 was responding to Sioux, Ralph, and I'm not ready to say HSU is the favorite simply because the game went like I expected.  I'm also not taking a HSU win for granted because HSU is going to bring it in a big fashion, as always.  

I mis-interpreted that post. Thanks.  

In my analysis of the HSU game, this is why I think that HSU wins.

QB -- Feaster vs Mullin  Feaster is 2nd team Pre-season AA. (IMH, and biased O, roughly comparable QB's. I am very glad to have Mullin).
O' line -- HSU probably more mature and will provide adequate protection.
HSU Running game -- more balanced than the Air Raid
Defense -- to date, has faced better offenses in the first 3 games than McMurry had in its 2 games.
Intangible -- Ready to beat UMHB again.  Coming off a "revenge" win from 2009.  
Special teams -- it won't take much effort to have a better showing than McMurry's allowing a fumble in the end zone, a bad snap for a safety, and a kickoff return for a TD.

UMHB gave up 5 TD's!

[umhb2001]

To be down 22-0 and then score 25 straight points to take the lead and the finally lose the game by a margin of a recovered fumble for a TD, a safety, a kickoff return and then an INT for a TD is exasperating.

The good side that I see from this is that we held Daniels and Bailey to "below average" production

Rushing              No Gain Loss  Net TD Lg  Avg
-------------------------------------------------
Quincy Daniels       27  109   10   99  1 18  3.7
LiDarral Bailey      17  106   21   85  1 39  5.0

and we had this performance in only the 13th game of the new system.

We catch HSU in the 18th game of the new system. That game might be for a share of the conference lead.

Hey Ralph,
As I predicted it was a close game and having watched it i'd say for the reasons i expected. 1) McM is that much improved.  The oline was better, Mullin is amazing and the receivers can flat out fly.  2 of the TDs were Jake throwing over everybody and the receiver turning it on to make the play well behind the defender.  2) its early in the season with young dbs that were there for the exploiting. UMHB always seems to start the season slow so this really made McM a tough match up.

I wouldn't read too much into the defense holding Bailey and Daniels, since Bailey was no threat to pass (he threw some ugly passes last night) they pretty well stacked the line and swarmed to the ball.  The UMHB penalties helped too.

Where McM is going to to have problems with HSU is on the Oline.  The Oline did a good job protecting Jake, but for the most part UMHB was rushing 4 and trying to figure out some way of stopping the pass.  Even rushing 4 Jake was running for his life part of the time.  HSUs DBs will be better than UMHBs dbs played tonight and so HSU will have a little more beef to bring.

The other thing that could derail McM is an injury to Mullin.  His speed, ability to see the field and escape pressure, much like Justing feaster, Make that offense work.

The UMHB defense was not on cue this week. It really is frustrating. Our secondary is  young, and that played a lot into it. They will have to mature quickly or Saturaday night will be long and exhausting. LB was NOT good. I don't understand it. Why can UMHB never have a quality QB. It seems as though we have always been one demensional. I love LB and think he can do the job, but we are going to need to have a much higher quality of play if we want to win Saturday.

[Toby Taff]

I mis-interpreted that post. Thanks. 

In my analysis of the HSU game, this is why I think that HSU wins.

QB -- Feaster vs Mullin  Feaster is 2nd team Pre-season AA. (IMH (and biased) O, roughly comparable QB's. I am very glad to have Mullin).
O' line -- HSU probably more mature and will provide adequate protection.
HSU Running game -- more balanced than the Air Raid
Defense -- to date, has faced better offenses in the first 3 games than McMurry had in its 2 games.
Intangible -- Ready to beat UMHB again.  Coming off a "revenge" win from 2009.  
Special teams -- it won't take much effort to have a better showing than McMurry's allowing a fumble in the end zone, a bad snap for a safety, and a kickoff return for a TD.

UMHB gave up 5 TD's!

I agree with you about most of your list, especially about Feaster and Mullin.  I actually think Mullin is better than Feaster was at this point in his career.

I discount the revenge factor only because there is a mutual animosity there and UMHB will be coming out next week jacked up so they don't have to endure the coaches wrath again (I'm assuming they will this week for the undisciplined play).

I'm also taking the 165 yds of penalties into consideration.  Those penalties really effected the game last night  If UMHB does that again this will not be a pretty game.  if they manage to keep that under control things should be ok.

I also don't expect HSU to throw 60+ passes next week.  The Cru should be able to run their normal defense which is more conducive to beating HSU's offense than it is the Air Raid.

So I think next week will be a pretty typical early 2000's HSU-UMHB game, a hard hitting war of attrition that could come down to the very end.  Of course if Bailey can't complete a pass UMHB is screwed  

[umhb2001]

Coach Mumme didn't answer the question about what they need to do to "close the gap", but in my mind, they have. They've never done that to UMHB, and that says a lot for what he has done with the MCM program. Tip of the cap, Coach...

The Cru better learn quick, and hopefully this game was an eye opener. They need to step up quickly, and hopefully LB will be out there all week with the wideouts working on his location. Last week he was great, so hopefully he got it out of his system early.

I've got my tickets ready and look forward to a great showdown!

[question]

That was a game McM needed.  UMHB is not as loaded as they have been.  That was a game they should of had.

What happened to Justin Johnson the RB from Oklahoma. 
The still need to run the ball and control the clock to beat HSU and some of the other top teams. 

[question]

UMHB will beat you up running the ball.  UMHB2001 said they are one demensional, but it will wear on a team.

They control the clock so well.

That is what scares me about passing so much you never control the clock really.

[Toby Taff]

UMHB will beat you up running the ball.  UMHB2001 said they are one demensional, but it will wear on a team.

They control the clock so well.

That is what scares me about passing so much you never control the clock really.

I don't think any of the UMHB faithful don't want UMHB to run run run, but for that to work Bailey has to be able to complete passes when they do pass. 2 of 15 won't do that.  If dbs can line up in man and the d not have to worry about getting beat by the pass, UMHB is going to have trouble with playoff caliber defenses that can stack the box.

Saturday, that happened.  Bailey couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and the McM d loaded up more and more and really took it to the Cru at times.  so much so that UMHB lost the time of possession in the game they usually control.  Pass early and often McMurry had the ball for a little over 31 minutes.

I think UMHB will be fine.  There are a lot of young players on the team this year (didn't realize how many until I looked at the roster this morning) so there is going to be some feeling their way, but it needs to gel quickly.  It needs to be stepped up this week or it will be over quick.

[cowboyfan]

Toby

No disrespect to BHMU (ok maybe a little disrespect is intented) but i think they are screwed either way this weekend. Should be a great game but i give the edge to the cowboys. The seperating factor here might be if LD doesn't complete passes then BHMU will be ROYALLY SCREWED. Should be a great game and its always a fun rivalry.

Go Cowboys

I mis-interpreted that post. Thanks. 

In my analysis of the HSU game, this is why I think that HSU wins.

QB -- Feaster vs Mullin  Feaster is 2nd team Pre-season AA. (IMH (and biased) O, roughly comparable QB's. I am very glad to have Mullin).
O' line -- HSU probably more mature and will provide adequate protection.
HSU Running game -- more balanced than the Air Raid
Defense -- to date, has faced better offenses in the first 3 games than McMurry had in its 2 games.
Intangible -- Ready to beat UMHB again.  Coming off a "revenge" win from 2009.  
Special teams -- it won't take much effort to have a better showing than McMurry's allowing a fumble in the end zone, a bad snap for a safety, and a kickoff return for a TD.

UMHB gave up 5 TD's!

I agree with you about most of your list, especially about Feaster and Mullin.  I actually think Mullin is better than Feaster was at this point in his career.

I discount the revenge factor only because there is a mutual animosity there and UMHB will be coming out next week jacked up so they don't have to endure the coaches wrath again (I'm assuming they will this week for the undisciplined play).

I'm also taking the 165 yds of penalties into consideration.  Those penalties really effected the game last night  If UMHB does that again this will not be a pretty game.  if they manage to keep that under control things should be ok.

I also don't expect HSU to throw 60+ passes next week.  The Cru should be able to run their normal defense which is more conducive to beating HSU's offense than it is the Air Raid.

So I think next week will be a pretty typical early 2000's HSU-UMHB game, a hard hitting war of attrition that could come down to the very end.  Of course if Bailey can't complete a pass UMHB is screwed  

[crufootball]

UMHB will be in a lot of trouble if they play like they did in the first 2 quarters of the La Crosse game or the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the McMurry game but Coach Fred has always been able to focus the guys when playing against HSU.

One huge area that has always given the edge to UMHB over HSU is the turnover battle when playing each other. Back in the 2004 when HSU last beat UMHB they won the turnover battle with UMHB throwing 3 interception and fumbling 2 times. However since then UMHB has won the turnover battle, with HSU giving up the ball 18 times while UMHB only gave it up 7 times.

If UMHB can win that battle again they should win, if not that means HSU is getting into the endzone most likely and they should win.

[dsc]

If UMHB can win that battle (turnovers) again they should win, if not that means HSU is getting into the endzone most likely and they should win.

COWBOYS...whatever it takes....do it!

Go HSU COWBOYS...bring home a win...this weekend!

Cowboys---forever!

[umhb2001]

UMHB will beat you up running the ball.  UMHB2001 said they are one demensional, but it will wear on a team.

They control the clock so well.

That is what scares me about passing so much you never control the clock really.

Please show me where I said one demensional.

[minni]

Oh Saturday will be fun and I am going to be there.  Good luck to the guys from HSU.  I don't know any of them anymore but I will be rooting for ya.  I guess once a Cowboy, always a Cowboy!!!

I work with a UMHB alum, he didn't play, but we discuss D3 football all the time and we both agree you can just about discredit the entire season to this point because both teams seem to just take it up another notch and do things in this game that normally are not done.  Good luck and stay healthy!!!

[umhb2001]

UMHB will beat you up running the ball.  UMHB2001 said they are one demensional, but it will wear on a team.

They control the clock so well.

That is what scares me about passing so much you never control the clock really.

I have never said this, and week one proves my point. LD passed very well and brought us home to victory. If we do what we do, then we have a shot at winning; obviously, if we don't throw the ball well, we can still win. The guys will be fired up, the Couch Cru will be hostile, and the home crowd, I hope, will be loud. I expect a great game.

Please show me where I said one demensional.

[cowboyfan]

perhaps the term "beat you up running the ball" implies that the offense is somehow one demetion. What i love is that this season you don't have all the BHMU fans talking about how great their squad is and how no one else can hang with them. I'd love to see the Cru lose at home by more than a field goal. Either way you might want to consider having your excuses lined out so you don't have to take all the blame.

Minni,

Well said. I think both teams bring a little bit more to the table each year during this game. Thats what makes this rivalry so special. Be loud for me this weekend. Wish i could be there.

GO COWBOYS.

[question]

"The UMHB defense was not on cue this week. It really is frustrating. Our secondary is  young, and that played a lot into it. They will have to mature quickly or Saturaday night will be long and exhausting. LB was NOT good. I don't understand it. Why can UMHB never have a quality QB. It seems as though we have always been one demensional. I love LB and think he can do the job, but we are going to need to have a much higher quality of play if we want to win Saturday." It was at top of page.

I did not mean anything bad.  I guess I was just meaning they are like a Nebraska team.  Run the ball and try to stop us.  Tom Osbourne said a option team can win a national championship now against the new 3-4 defenses.  He said in the option all plays are designed to score a TD, in the spread they are designed for small gains and big gains.  He said the gaps are so big. 

UMHB 2001 you give good posts.  Did not mean anythign bad