FB: American Southwest Conference

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hpudad

I haven't posted in a couple of week but have some thoughts that I would like to share.

You have to love the ASC.  What a competitive conference.  I think UMHB lose to HPU was the best thing that could have happen for them, if a lose could be considered a good thing.  The loss made them get re-focused and made them a very dangerous team.  I think that HSU might have been a little over confident (my opinion) after the way the HSU/HPU game went and then UMHB losing to HPU.

I think with the loss, HSU has been given a reality check and will be more focused and win out.  I think UMHB will win out also.  Both will be in the playoffs.  It is too bad that they will meet in the early rounds.  Both teams have champioship quality players and staffs.

Quietly HPU has been playing and winning.  After an amazing game against UMHB, HPU went to McMurry and pulled out a win in a very sloppy game.  I just wish HPU could be more consistant on offense.  HPU defense has played very well since the UMHB game.  They produced 5 int against McMurry and 6 int against Austin this last Saturday.  HPU has TL away, LC Home and MC away the next three weeks.

Can HPU win out?  I think they can but must come to play especially next week at TL.  If they do win out that would put them at 7-3 overall and 7-2.  Not to bad for a first year coach and system.

What are your thoughts on HPU winning out?  Can they do it?
"Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. "
Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

CwbyFann

HPU should handle LC, but the other games might be a little tighter.  However, they have already proven that they can be very dangerous.  So, it is most definitely possible. 

sthrncwby

Hey you win some you lose some.  It is misfortune that UMHB didnt play that game, thanks rita.  HSU is still on top.  Maybe there will be another ASC matchup in the playoffs.  McMurry beating HSU?  Wow, never in my playing days.  I remember going into that 99 game, both teams were undefeated.  McMurry never showed up to that game.  That started the funk they are climbing out of now.  Will they be sent back into the hole or do they beat HSU?  If you cant win in your own home town, where can you go...?  I will try my best to get to this one, minni.

Bill McCabe

I think it will be very interesting to see how the NCAA ranks UMHB and HSU.  Is playing one less game going to have an impact?  Does beating HSU outweigh losing to HPU?  Should be very interesting.

proudmcmdad

I was out of pocket last week so I didn't comment on HPU/McM game.  I was very impressed with the new HPU coaching staff, they had a very well thought out game plan and kept the players positive after falling behind 13 pts early in the 3rd quarter.  A couple of the coaches need to think before they speak though in that they commented before the game that they were the team to beat in the conference.  I also liked that the coaches had them do updowns after the game to remind them of their mistakes (it was a really sloppy game on both sides).
I think HPU goes 2 and 1 over the last 3 games.  Although I have been disappointed with TLU this year, I still think TLU wins this one in a close game.  And even if HPU can beat TLU, they are likely to slip up against 1 of the other 2.  The weak in the ASC are much, much better this year than in years past.

hsu_alum13

It just goes to show you that on any given day any team can beat another. The bottom line is both HSU and UMHB better prepare for their next game and not the "next time they play eachother"...because that day may never come. Anyone is capable of knocking off any one and that has been proven time and time again in this conference.

Most of the time the indians and the cowboys tangle up a great game is the result and I dont expect anything but under the lights at Shotwell.

Ralph Turner

Proud, i think that the reason "the weak are closer to the strong" is because of the quality QBs we have in the league.

Everyone except MC and AC have outstanding QB's for the systems that they are running, and I would not be surprised for the HSU offense to change to adapt to Bernhardt's strengths after they review the game films.

Adam Johnson, Sean Salinas and Ty Sellers are one type of QB.  Padron and Welch are holding their own nicely at UMHB.

CruGuy

Quote from: CwbyFann on October 24, 2005, 02:33:23 PM


I have a few more closing comments: Jordy wasn't running for his life he was holding the ball too stinkin' long when he had people open.  You sit in the pocket for 5 seconds and not get sacked.(He will get better)
UMHB trash talkers go ahead and take your shots,  but trash the team or the institution.  If you live in a glass house you should not throw stones.\
Pottsy (EAD)


Since I'm the one who has been pointed at the most for calling HSU classless, I'll repeat  my statement one last time, I never said anything about the team or the institution, I only spoke about individual circumstances and the individual involved. I had conversation with two different HSU grads for an hour and a half tonight and we didn't talk about football for more than forty five seconds and no yelling, obscenities, or "illegal" things were said. Not knowing who you are, I have no negative dispositions towards any of you, your school, or your team.

I might have a negative disposition towards your eye doctor though. I don't know what you consider running for you life but 8 sacks...8 sacks....he lost 92 yards....the only time he had his feet set was when he was sitting on the side line. The team had negative eight yards of offensive for the first half and only a sixteen yard punt fake kept that number out of double digits.( For comparison purposes UMHB sacked Salinas 5 times and Johnson 3 times and I would've commented that both of those quarterbacks looked quite pressured in playing UMHB). The kid completed 14 of 20 passes, that's seventy percent, I don't know what you're looking for in a quarterback, but the game I saw had him doing everything he could. I hadn't heard one complaint about him on this board, in fact everything I had heard was about the great job he was doing filling in...so I've now spent twenty minutes reviewing previous post and I coudln't find the positive comments in his favor but I also didn't find any negative complaining about his performance against ETBU or HPU. I think he did a good job of finding hot routes, hitting receivers quick when he had the opportunity and played well with the pressure he was under. I think anyone blaming him for the loss is looking for a scapegoat right now. UMHB just seemed to have a huge advantage in team speed and closed down holes on receivers, backs, and quarterbacks all afternoon long. Ex. the bubble screen has always been huge for the HSU offense against the UMHB defensive scheme, it was basically ineffective with the receivers not being able to get outside and up the sideline fast enough.  I don't know what game you were watching; scratch that, I don't know that you were at the game if you don't think he was running for his life all afternoon. Last comment and I'm done, the first three HSU drives ended after sacks of Jordy, including one of those where he dropped back and before he could glance to his second option, was hit from the back side and fumbled the ball....

Bill McCabe

The HSU QB was under a lot of pressure.  UMHB seemed to blitz more than they had in previous games.  Kubiak had a safety blitz and sacked the QB for minus 20.  The speed of the UMHB defenders caused a lot of the problems for the QB.

eagle

I was at the UMHB and TLU JV game last night and one of UMHB players was taken off the field in an ambulance has anyone heard any status on this young player, hope everything is fine with him. On another note the TLU JV looked pretty good against UMHB, they won 14 --13. I will say this whether good, bad or indifferent, the coaches at UMHB are VERY vocal to their players. I saw a great difference between the 2 coaching staffs, again just an observation. Tlu had a couple of great looking QBs and a great looking safety (all freshman) also some good linebackers. Very positive for the program if the dedicate themselves.

Norman

The funniesst thing about all of your conversations are the comments made about "you win some, you lose some".  Classless- I can remember being at places where HSU players were at 4nad 5 years ago. All the talk was ever about was never getting beat!!! I don't mean in confident ways, I mean in arrogant, cocky ways.  I've got one better than "you win some you lose some".  How about "What goes around comes around" 

Good luck to everyone competing this weekend.  Just an ASC fan.


kickhoe

OK....I've had enough of it!!!!

You are going to have sore losing fans that cannot take it when they lose.  They're going to act like idiots, say stupid things, and make themselves look like fools.  Now  the generalizations about HSU, UMHB, HPU, McM, etc. are getting crazy.  Everybody just needs to stop it!!! 

I went to HSU, and I hated seeing them lose to UMHB on Saturday.  It sucked!!!  But you know what, it hasn't ruined my life, I've gotten over it.  UMHB was the better team, no doubt about it!!!

So let's stop the pissing and moaning about what he said or she said.  Who's classy and who's not.  1 or 2 people do not determine the make up of a university!!!

Anyway, I had to get that off my chest after reading the constant ramblings of who said what or who did what.

CwbyFann

Crukid,
Maybe what you saw was a superior pass rush, but obviously you are looking through untrained eyes.  UMHB has a great defensive line, but it makes things easier when you can man up and blitz on every down.  The deep routes were open all day long but we never seemed to throw them.  Instead, the qb had tunnel vision on 22 and held the ball to long.  This allowed UMHB to send whoever they wanted.  How many times did they sack #14?  They didn't to answer my own question and prove my point.  I'm not bashing Jordy by any means, we all have are bad days and if he is wearing purple and gold then I'm behind him.  As I said before he will turn it around.  

CwbyFann

Crukid,
Hot routes?  Quit playing Madden.
Norman you can EAD as well

onall

Good luck everyone in ASC.  Especially MCM