FB: American Southwest Conference

minni · October 25, 2005, 05:23:02 PM

dballa any plans to come to Abilene anytime?

its not a bad little drive from Houston, Mr. Towne I believe it is?

Bill McCabe · October 25, 2005, 05:24:18 PM

CwbyFann, Now that is a feat, playing 11 man with 14 players. Good luck to you and your team. How do you have practice? It is hard enough when you have enough to scrimmage with 22. Where is your school? Did I read correctly that you played at HSU?

Ralph Turner · October 25, 2005, 05:38:24 PM

CwbyFan, I read the article in the AR-N about Throckmorton's decision to move over to 6-man. (I just cannot call it a drop down to 6-man, because those athletes really give it all!)

If you are there when that decision must be made, my prayers are that the citizens will consider the student-athletes.

hpudad · October 25, 2005, 05:42:20 PM

I'm new to this board but am suprised by some of the things that I have read. I think the ASC is the most competitive conference in Division III Football. Yes HSU has had a great run in the ASC since it was created. That sucess has made some of the fans of HSU seem pretty arrogant, from what I have read in the post on this board. Whether it is true or not, that is the perception that this new poster has observed. I'm not trying to point out anyone or call anyone out. In every sports that I have ever been involved with, winning and losing graciously, has always been what was taught to me and what I have taught while coaching. I haven't seen this on this board. I've seen a lot of arrogance and personal attacks. Is this what this board and DIII Football is about? I thought it was a place where fans could come and discuss DIII Football and their team without having their team or themselves being insulted and verbally attacked. These are just some thoughts and observations from a new poster/observer.

dballa · October 25, 2005, 05:43:06 PM

Cwbyfann, i wasn't attacking your kids just your statement you said about me earlier. We could go all day about it. Truth is we both like our schools and don't care for others putting them down.

minni, i go to abilene often, was there for the HPU/McMurry game..

Bill McCabe · October 25, 2005, 05:48:57 PM

Ralph, I think it was last year that several very successful Class A programs moved to 6 man. I think Wheeler was one of them. I've never seen a 6 man game, but I'm trying to find one this year.

Toby Taff · October 25, 2005, 05:54:48 PM

Bill,

Where are you? If you are near the Killeen-Temple- Belton area, Buckholtz plays 6-man

Bill McCabe · October 25, 2005, 05:55:38 PM

hpudad, This is my 3rd year to really follow D-3 and the ASC. I don't think there is any doubt that several teams are improved in the ASC, particularly McMurry and Sul Ross. I like the conference to have competitive teams. I believe the bar has been set high for all the ASC teams.

Bill McCabe · October 25, 2005, 05:56:23 PM

mhb8904, I live in San Antonio. There aren't a lot of 6 man teams down this way.

Toby Taff · October 25, 2005, 06:11:34 PM

From looking at the 6 man alignment on the UIL web site I'd sat Buckholts might be the closest you could get fro SA. It would be about a 2.5 hr drive. But if you came up on a friday when MHB played saturday, you could make it a football weekend and Buckholts wouldn't be toop far out of the way.

CruGuy · October 25, 2005, 06:15:56 PM

Quote from: TXCowboy on October 25, 2005, 03:57:11 PM
I do have to agree being a former HSU player that even though HSU got beat, they are still the best team, but it should be interesting to see what happens should they play again in the playoffs.

So what does UMHB have to do to prove to you that they are the best team? (notice I'm asking for what it takes in your opinion, since it is your opinion right now that HSU is better than UMHB) They've won three of the last four games in this series, they've done it on the road, on your feild, when it mattered.

I'm constantly reminded that HSU is still "on top of the totem pole" thanks to a hurricane. Even still, with as little as UMHB deserved to win the game against HPU they were ahead with 3 seconds left and were in the game they lost til the very end. HSU wasn't in their loss after 7 minutes had passed in the game.

An interesting question that I'd like to hear the awnser to from all the HPU, TLU, McM posters and other non UMHB/HSU fans ? If you have two one loss teams and one of them beats the mess out of the other, who do you consider the better team ?

oh, and on the subject of my using the phrase "hot routes" i was using that phrase when the Titans were a great team to play with on Madden, I grew up playing in a system that used 3,4,5 receivers on almost every play and the short, safety, quick, dump, fire...whatever route you want to call it, the one that you toss to when the quarterback is in pressure and needs to throw a quick short pass is the "hot route". He completed 14 passes for 107 yards...my mental math tells me that's somewhere around 7.5 yards a completion....on the season he's got 1173 on 91, that looks like it's right around 13 yds. He was throwing much shorter passes (hitting the hot route) because....he was running for his life, proving the original point argued by that post. There have been more posts since I went to bed last night then there were, Saturday Evening, Sunday, and Monday, don't yall have class to go to ?

baddog · October 25, 2005, 07:45:01 PM

Crukid -- It is obviously a matter of loyalty to the program for CwbyFann. Much more meaningful to a person who really played rather than having just played Nintendo. (Now there's a real workout for a real man!) Or have you ever strapped it on and put it all -- your blood, sweat, etc. -- out there? Maybe so. If you have, you should understand where he is coming from.
As much as I pull for HSU -- and will continue to do so -- I have to agree that UMHB's program is stronger than HSU right now. That's what the playing and keeping score is all about. But, there are still some season and the playoffs left. Both UMHB and HSU need to win out. And, if they meet again, the tables could turn -- just like last year.

hsu_alum13 · October 25, 2005, 08:04:05 PM

I am a little confused...and yes I am an HSU fan...but I dont give a crap about a hurricane or standings...correct me if I am wrong but "who is better" is determined ON the field...and UMHB determined that this past weekend. They left no question. Excuses are running, and we (HSU folks) can point fingers...but the truth is that until(if) we play them again...UMHB is the better team. I hate to say it but they proved it ON the field. They have won when it counts...and until we bounce back and knock them off then we are not as good. We can get on here and talk all day long and come across arrogant and all that and thats what makes fans and a board like this so great...but the truth is that we(HSU) lost and lost bad this past weekend to UMHB. I really feel on any given day in this conference...it is getting to the point where any team can beat another.

Again...I can guarantee Coach K and the boys arent sitting around at practice talking about what ifs and what shoulds...but they are focused and ready to kill some Indians this weekend.

The Cowboys WILL bounce back.

kickhoe · October 25, 2005, 08:48:18 PM

hsu_alum13, I agree with you. We got our butts whooped last weekend. As hard as it is for me to admit, UMHB is the better team right now. If HSU fans recall, UMHB did spank us the last time we met. HSU has been outscored 80 to 35 in the past 2 games. Right now, UMHB is fast, quicker and stronger than HSU.

hpudad, It is great to see the ASC get better and better every year. The majority of the schools in the conference play competitive games every Saturday. TLU, ETBU, HPU, McM, and SR continue to get better. If UMHB and HSU don't watch out, they will be knocked off of their perches before too long. I think that the success that UMHB and HSU has had brings out the competitiveness in the other schools.

Ralph Turner · October 25, 2005, 09:53:15 PM

Kickhoe, I think that the fact that so many teams are now playing ASC ball that the high school players see it as a viable form of football for those who still have it in their blood.

Ten years ago, we only had HSU McM, AC, SRSU and HPU, and Trinity had not developed into the power that it is.

We are getting Adam Johnson's and PJ Williams' and Matt Moskowsky's and Ty Sellers' to say that this is good ball. HPU LB Landon Dyer was recruited by SMU. We have had BU's Shaun Roshon (UMHB) and Tech's Khalid Naziruddin (HPU) move to D1.

I only see the ASC as getting more competitive.