FB: American Southwest Conference

Bill McCabe · November 10, 2005, 10:03:38 AM

I thought it was interesting that HSU and UMHB both dropped in the regional rankings.

sthrncwby · November 10, 2005, 11:33:38 AM

Where can I find regional rankings?

desertcat1 · November 10, 2005, 11:52:08 AM

read the front page..

cruprez · November 10, 2005, 12:26:29 PM

Bill,
You are oh so correct about the LA v UMHB game not needing to be played at this stage of the season. The only thing it might accomplish is to make UMHB conference champs. As you said, being conference champs is not as important as a deep run into the playoffs....one only has to look at last year to validate that point!

GO CRU......

sthrncwby · November 10, 2005, 02:32:49 PM

If UMHB replayed the missed game, would it change where they are seeded?

cruprez · November 10, 2005, 02:52:16 PM

probably not.....the only change it would bring about (with a win) is they would be ASC champs....I don't think it would effect their regional standing...but then again, sometimes it's difficult to see how and why they seed the way they do....must be a bunch of men doing the work--no logic.... hehe just kidding....

umhbalum · November 10, 2005, 04:20:01 PM

I guess the regional and AFCA polls have nothing to do with each other because I dont understand the regional rankings. The AFCA has UMHB ranked higher than the top 3 team in there region?

1. Linfield (40) 7-0 1,000 1
2. St. John's 9-0 950 3
3. UW-Whitewater 9-0 918 4
4. Mary Hardin-Baylor 7-1 793 7
5. Occidental 8-0 790 5
6t. Trinity (Texas) 8-0 784 6
6t. Mount Union 8-1 784 8
8. Delaware Valley 9-0 741 9
9. Hardin-Simmons 8-1 625 11
10. Rowan 8-1 530 2
11. Concordia-Moorhead 8-1 523 14
12. St. John Fisher 8-1 495 13
13. Bridgewater (Va.) 7-1 438 15
14. Ithaca 8-1 436 16
15. Augustana 8-1 416 20t
16. Wabash 8-0 415 18
17. Washington & Jefferson 9-1 378 17
18. Thiel 9-0 356 19
19. Monmouth 10-0 303 20t
20. Union 9-0 299 22
21. Ferrum 9-0 213 23

Trinity (Texas) 7-0 8-0
2. Ferrum 9-0 9-0
3. Thiel 9-0 9-0
4. Mary Hardin-Baylor 6-1 7-1
5. Wesley 6-0 9-1
6. Bridgewater (Va.) 6-1 7-1
7. Washington and Jefferson 7-1 9-1
8. Hardin-Simmons 7-1 8-1
9. DePauw 6-1 7-1
10. Hampden-Sydney 7-2 7-2

Ron Boerger · November 10, 2005, 04:38:30 PM

Quote from: umhbalum on November 10, 2005, 04:20:01 PM
I guess the regional and AFCA polls have nothing to do with each other because I dont understand the regional rankings. The AFCA has UMHB ranked higher than the top 3 team in there region?

The AFCA poll and the regional rankings have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. The regional rankings are based on a set of well-established (not necessarily valid, mind you) criteria, and the AFCA poll is your typical coaches' poll.

The regional rankings seem to ignore things like margin of victory, whereas coaches see 72-0 and go "wow! they must be really good!" Of course, UMHB is really good. Fortunately the playoffs will let all the participants have a chance to show how good they are on the field.

minni · November 10, 2005, 06:44:41 PM

For those who were wondering, Eric Alvarez's services were yesterday. From what I have heard it was a very beautiful service. My source told me that the church was packed. It was in Stamford and for those of you that know Stamford know that it is not very big. But the service was so full (my source said over 800 people) that they put people in sunday school rooms and set up monitors so people could watch the service. The school of Rotan bused as many students as they could I heard, anywhere from elementary to the high school level. Eric was a great guy and will be missed by so many. Continue to pray for the families. Eric's in-laws ahd to bury thier daughter today, so the families have had an extremely emotional two days with the funerals. It's nice to be able to come on here and know that someone from Mississippi to Alpine is praying for people and can lay aside mascots and rivalries for people.

dsc · November 10, 2005, 07:34:07 PM

Thanks minni!

Nice report and it is appreciated.

May God be with the families and friends.

Pat Coleman · November 10, 2005, 09:11:33 PM

Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on November 10, 2005, 04:38:30 PM
The regional rankings seem to ignore things like margin of victory, whereas coaches see 72-0 and go "wow! they must be really good!"

And I would say our poll is somewhere in between.

Bill McCabe · November 10, 2005, 09:16:51 PM

Pat, I would say your poll is the most accurate.

Ralph Turner · November 10, 2005, 10:00:08 PM

roocru, Re: post 1574...Thanks! I have been at a conference since Monday night. First chance to sign on!

Bill, thanks for your kind words!

Weak Safety · November 11, 2005, 11:37:02 AM

Quote from: sthrncwby on November 10, 2005, 02:32:49 PM
If UMHB replayed the missed game, would it change where they are seeded?

Not too sure because I'm not really up on it how it all works (I don't think the committee members are either), but if the game were played and UMHB won, their Quality of Wins Index would be lower, thus possibly resulting in a lower South Region seeding (and maybe a road game in Round 1). Obviously, if the game were played and UMHB lost that would give them two losses against unranked opponents and they would sit home.

Weak Safety · November 11, 2005, 12:34:41 PM

I was looking at the open dates and noticed that UMHB is listed as having an open date on September 9, 2006. Didn't they schedule CNU for that date? Did the CNU game replace the Willamette series, or did it replace the Austin College game? I noticed UW-Whitewater has an open date on September 9. It's a shame that game couldn't happen rather than the CNU matchup (CNU 5-4 with Ferrum left). Guess maybe they wanted a South Region game or maybe UW-Whitewater wasn't interested in a challenge.