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Spirit_of_66

Quote from: dballa on September 07, 2005, 05:39:50 PM
Judging by the way they looked in the scrimmage against HPU the only part of the SAGU team that looked good was their offensive line.  Other than that they really didn't have much at all.  SRSU shouldn't have any problem with them at all.

dballa,
I do not think that SWAGU or SRSU are in the same league as HPU, HSU or MHBU. That is like saying an El Paso team is going to beat a Little SWC Team (i.e. Midland Lee, Abilene Cooper, Odessa Permian, et al.)
"When is Bernard (Combs) not hot against us? Bernard just embarrasses you. He nails the 3, scores off the dribble, scores off picks ... he scores from everywhere. He lives off of us."
-- McMurry Head Coach Ron Holmes on HSU Shooting Guard Bernard Combs, 1998

dballa

It's kinda funny you mentioned high school teams because they pretty much looked like one.  Although I would say Abilene High could probably compete with them this year  if not beat them  :)

Spirit_of_66

Exactly, if you think that Sul Ross is any better, you are kidding yourself. Here is 11 years of history.

1994: (0-10, 0-5 TIAA)
1995: (3-6, 2-3 TIAA)
1996: (6-4, 3-1 ASC)
1997: (4-6, 2-3 ASC)
1998: (1-9, 0-7 ASC)
1999: (2-8, 1-6 ASC)
2000: (2-7, 2-7 ASC)
2001: (3-7, 3-6 ASC)
2002: (0-10, 0-9 ASC)
2003: (0-10, 0-9 ASC)
2004: (2-8, 2-7 ASC)

One winning season. One. 23 wins in 11 years. 23. I remind you that neither team is good. Neither. I just think that SWAGU will win because they are at home.
"When is Bernard (Combs) not hot against us? Bernard just embarrasses you. He nails the 3, scores off the dribble, scores off picks ... he scores from everywhere. He lives off of us."
-- McMurry Head Coach Ron Holmes on HSU Shooting Guard Bernard Combs, 1998

roocru

jmnaseum,
Don't blame me for the negative karma.  I had nothing to do with that and I'm not even sure how it works.  Obviously someone else is taking issue with your posts.  Every response I have made to you was couched in smiley faces !  I take no serious issue with your posts and I know Sul Ross won last year.  However, hope springs eternal ....

I played at AC from '67 - '71 and my daughter is currently a senior there although my son just finished four great years at UMHB.  I am hoping for a breakout year by AC again (like in 2000 or at least 2002).  I sincerely root for both teams and when they played the last four years I wore a purple shirt and my AC hat.

Go Roos !!  Go Cru !!
Anything that you ardently desire, vividly imagine, totally believe and enthusiastically pursue will inevitably come to pass !!!

dballa

Nobody has said SRSU has a history of winning...it's just a matter of thinking who is better in this particular game and who will win in a game picking contest..everybody has their opinion and only those two teams will show who is better this weekend...

Bill McCabe

WOW!  Whoever thought the ASC board would be dominated by the Sul Ross game.  Good luck this weekend and hope you come out on top.

Ralph Turner

Shucks Bill, it's only the first game of the weekend.  And this is pretty sophisticated trash talking.

Besides, are we seriously gonna hear any smack by TU or TLU or Willamette or UMHB this week? ;)

The cheeseheads have been quiet, too.

Spirit, the last time SWAG played ASC teams was when UMHB and ETBU were starting their teams.  SWAG was trounced by both in their first games.

This will be a great proxy for the strength of the ASC.  We know the ceiling can extend to Salem, VA.  McMurry did a good job against Menlo.  The "2005 Kickoff" suggests that the bottom of the ASC is still better than 25% of D3.  (You can still buy it...only $4.95 if your email is an "edu" address.  It is well worth the money.)  IMHO, we can get a real determination of the floor of the conference from this game.

Ron Boerger

There's a surprising amount of respect for HPU over on the WIAC board.   Maybe half of the people participating in the pick 'em have the 'Jackets pegged for the win.   Go HPU !!!

Where are the Howard Payne posters this year, anyway?

Toby Taff

Ron,

Do does HPU have fans other than the parents?  I go to school with I don't know how many HPU alumns and not a one of them cares about the football team.  it is amazing to me. 

I am an MHB fan (someone actually accused me of being fanatical).  I support them when its good and when its bad, and from start to finish either way.  I think the thing that hurt most in last years HSU-MHB regular season game was watching "fans" leave the game early because of the score.  Don't get me wrong it hurt to watch the game, but to not stay and support your team til the end ticks me off.

AS for the SWAG/SRSU game, I gotta go with the home team.  The way I see it, it's like two people looking for the restroom in a dark house late at night.  The person that lives there has the advantage.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Bill McCabe

I saw on the UMHB website that Freddie Rollins is listed as the starting FB.  That should create some problems for defenses with Bryson and Rollins in the game at the same time.  Also, that should get Carter into the game more often.  He is a very talented and fast RB.  Can't wait for Saturday to see how they look.

dballa

As an HPU fan it's kind of hard to say something about them with a new coaching staff and only having scrimmaged SAGU this year.  We'll find out plenty this Saturday night against Lacrosse.  The new coaching staff has put in place a pretty exciting new offense that fans will love to see.  They should be fun to watch and definitely will surprise a lot of people this year.

GO JACKETS!! (I  guess thats what you've been waiting to hear? :)

baddog

Bfb -- I looked at the WIAC board myself and you are right. They may be assuming HSU and HPU are about the same.
Though pulling for the ASC team, my picking LX against HPU had to do with LX being better than SP and HPU not being where HSU is at this point. If the HPU web site is correct, HPU has a whole lot of freshmen on the roster.
Home field will help -- especially with the heat and with the usual Brownwood homecooking. Underwood's, of course. :)
Getting a new system in place can work both ways. It adds a new dimension to the usual first-game-getting-out-the kinks thing. On the other hand, the other team has much less to go on from films. And that makes their preparation more difficult.
Well, gotta go sell some tires.
Not really a bad dog. Just misunderstood!

jmnaseum

Spirit of 66 -- Didn't the Lobos win the ASC in 1996?
It is amazing that the Lobos and SWAGU are the talk of the board. 
Lobos 38  SWAGU  17

dballa

baddog actually the HPU roster hasn't been updated for this year on the website.  Hopefully it will be before too long though. 

sethhpu

I would be an HPU fan and student at the same time. The students I have talked to are pretty excited about the team this year. Bringing in a new coach and a new philoshophy has people thinking big.  We are excited to see what happens. Support should be bigger than it has the past two years.
Defense wins championships