FB: American Southwest Conference

[umhb2001]

Being an ASC fan, if HSU earns the Pool C bid, I would hope that the NCAA would seed HSU in the opposite bracket.

I've hoped that for years.

[DFWCrufan]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

[Ralph Turner]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

It would work for me.

I think that if we had a poll among the HSU fans, all considering that the Stagg Bowl 2018 will be in the north Houston suburb of Shenandoah, would Cowboy fans opt for being in the opposite bracket from UMHB with the very remote chance of a rematch, or maybe getting 1 playoff game (road or home) before the rematch with The CRU?

[CowboyAlum261]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

It would work for me.

I think that if we had a poll among the HSU fans, all considering that the Stagg Bowl 2018 will be in the north Houston suburb of Shenandoah, would Cowboy fans opt for being in the opposite bracket from UMHB with the very remote chance of a rematch, or maybe getting 1 playoff game (road or home) before the rematch with The CRU?

I'd love to not be on the same side of the bracket as UMHB. However, given the margin of victory on Saturday, I think a first round rematch is all but assured. Maybe if UMHB goes 10-0, HSU goes 9-1, and TLU goes 8-2, TLU could sneak into the regional rankings and justify splitting up HSU and UMHB, but even then, I think first round rematch is most likely.

[CowboyAlum261]

HSU has TLU in 2 weeks. The playoffs have started for the Cowboys. They can't afford a second loss.

TLU can beat them. Course, we didn't have a great vantage point, but TLU played us much stiffer than HSU did yesterday. They looked like they gave up in the 3rd quarter yesterday. Weird day for HSU, and I'm not convinced Hemphill makes a huge difference.

I agree TLU is the biggest game left for HSU, although Southwestern can sneak up on anybody. But even so, given TLU's struggles with LC this week I think HSU should take care of TLU handily if we show up and play our game.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

It would work for me.

I think that if we had a poll among the HSU fans, all considering that the Stagg Bowl 2018 will be in the north Houston suburb of Shenandoah, would Cowboy fans opt for being in the opposite bracket from UMHB with the very remote chance of a rematch, or maybe getting 1 playoff game (road or home) before the rematch with The CRU?

Probably a better chance if Linfield can also score a Pool C (doubtful, but possible).  Then one of the NWC teams (probably Pool A) can host the SCIAC, while HSU deals with the other one.

If the NWC doesn't get a Pool C bid, facing HSU means TWO flights in round one, rather than just NWC/SCIAC.  OTOH, are there any likely playoff opponents for either UMHB or HSU that are NOT flights?  (Life on a D3 geographical 'island' is a bitch, but it is what it is.)

[HSUCowboy2015]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

It would work for me.

I think that if we had a poll among the HSU fans, all considering that the Stagg Bowl 2018 will be in the north Houston suburb of Shenandoah, would Cowboy fans opt for being in the opposite bracket from UMHB with the very remote chance of a rematch, or maybe getting 1 playoff game (road or home) before the rematch with The CRU?

I would love to be in the opposite bracket off UMHB. I think given the opportunity, we could do some damage in the postseason if we didn't run into the train that never stops named UMHB. With that being said, I hope Whitworth and Linfield both win out along with us and UMHB. That would give the Northwest two teams in to play, then you have the Cali team that usually plays either UMHB or Linfield. That would force another decision to be made by the committee and I think we do have their respect. Just my perspective, anyone else have any thoughts that allows HSU to play a first round playoff game against someone other than UMHB or Linfield? haha

[HSUCowboy2015]

Also I need to give a shout out to UMHB. I hate you guys, but damn, that defense that you have is something else. Also that offense is clicking this year, its amazing what happens when you can't just focus on one aspect. HOW DO YALL GET SO MANY ATHLETES? The dual threat of Miller and that other return speedster was nuts. And to think I was glad Wilkerson graduated. Good game to the Saders. Hopefully HSU gets a gut check and comes back hungrier than ever. The upcoming weeks will tell!

[Kelly Boggs]

Abilene Reporter News - HSU vs UMHB: https://www.reporternews.com/story/sports/college/hardin-simmons/2018/10/06/hardin-simmons-cowboys-football-hsu-mary-hardin-baylor-cru-umhb-crusaders/1547890002/

Killeen Daily Herald - HSU vs UMHB: http://kdhnews.com/sports/college/umhb/no-umhb-hands-no-hardin-simmons-st-shutout-in-years/article_a605ae74-c9f0-11e8-9b74-375bd6aa9a93.html

[MonroviaCat]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

It would work for me.

I think that if we had a poll among the HSU fans, all considering that the Stagg Bowl 2018 will be in the north Houston suburb of Shenandoah, would Cowboy fans opt for being in the opposite bracket from UMHB with the very remote chance of a rematch, or maybe getting 1 playoff game (road or home) before the rematch with The CRU?

I would love to be in the opposite bracket off UMHB. I think given the opportunity, we could do some damage in the postseason if we didn't run into the train that never stops named UMHB. With that being said, I hope Whitworth and Linfield both win out along with us and UMHB. That would give the Northwest two teams in to play, then you have the Cali team that usually plays either UMHB or Linfield. That would force another decision to be made by the committee and I think we do have their respect. Just my perspective, anyone else have any thoughts that allows HSU to play a first round playoff game against someone other than UMHB or Linfield? haha

Linfield guy chiming in here.  I don't see us making the playoffs this year.  Even if we win out, I don't think we will get (or really will deserve) one of the few precious pool C spots.  That being said, I see the SCIAC champ making their annual death march (of recent years) to Belton and HSU matches up against Whitworth (probably in Spokane if Whitworth remains unbeaten).  Then HSU and MHB go at it again in round 2 (if they both win in round 1) because....$$$.  Of course, there are still another 5 weeks or so left for somebody to drop the ball and throw this scenario out the window...

[DFWCrufan]

The headline for the podcast, room for debate for #1 - personally 1 or 2 I could not care, it's nice to say your ranked 1 but as long as it plays into the favor in post season 1 or 2 - Mehh. I just want to see a good close to the season, everyone healthy and ready for post season - we still have LC who is a bit scrappy and the ETBU game, Not too concerned about Howard Payne, Belhaven or MCMurry - still have to play them tough, but I think our Cru will stand up just fine.

I'm just enjoying watching this team develop and gel... It's become a joy to watch, KJ Miller is outrageous, Jase, De'narion and Luke are delivering, Aaron Sims....What a snag! Coach Fred said he wanted to develop a strong ground game and it looks like they have it! It looks like De Jackson is the ASC Defensive player of the week! Joey Longoria is stepping up into that slot and playing outstanding, this is a great season so far! looking forward to much more

[HSUCowboy2015]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

It would work for me.

I think that if we had a poll among the HSU fans, all considering that the Stagg Bowl 2018 will be in the north Houston suburb of Shenandoah, would Cowboy fans opt for being in the opposite bracket from UMHB with the very remote chance of a rematch, or maybe getting 1 playoff game (road or home) before the rematch with The CRU?

I would love to be in the opposite bracket off UMHB. I think given the opportunity, we could do some damage in the postseason if we didn't run into the train that never stops named UMHB. With that being said, I hope Whitworth and Linfield both win out along with us and UMHB. That would give the Northwest two teams in to play, then you have the Cali team that usually plays either UMHB or Linfield. That would force another decision to be made by the committee and I think we do have their respect. Just my perspective, anyone else have any thoughts that allows HSU to play a first round playoff game against someone other than UMHB or Linfield? haha

Linfield guy chiming in here.  I don't see us making the playoffs this year.  Even if we win out, I don't think we will get (or really will deserve) one of the few precious pool C spots.  That being said, I see the SCIAC champ making their annual death march (of recent years) to Belton and HSU matches up against Whitworth (probably in Spokane if Whitworth remains unbeaten).  Then HSU and MHB go at it again in round 2 (if they both win in round 1) because....$$$.  Of course, there are still another 5 weeks or so left for somebody to drop the ball and throw this scenario out the window...

You don't think that Linfield could win out and get in? The loss to the D2 team won't count against yall. If Whitworth stays undefeated I like your chances if the Cats win out. So you think we match up well with Whitworth? I don't know much about them.

[umhb2001]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

It would work for me.

I think that if we had a poll among the HSU fans, all considering that the Stagg Bowl 2018 will be in the north Houston suburb of Shenandoah, would Cowboy fans opt for being in the opposite bracket from UMHB with the very remote chance of a rematch, or maybe getting 1 playoff game (road or home) before the rematch with The CRU?

I would love to be in the opposite bracket off UMHB. I think given the opportunity, we could do some damage in the postseason if we didn't run into the train that never stops named UMHB. With that being said, I hope Whitworth and Linfield both win out along with us and UMHB. That would give the Northwest two teams in to play, then you have the Cali team that usually plays either UMHB or Linfield. That would force another decision to be made by the committee and I think we do have their respect. Just my perspective, anyone else have any thoughts that allows HSU to play a first round playoff game against someone other than UMHB or Linfield? haha

Linfield guy chiming in here.  I don't see us making the playoffs this year.  Even if we win out, I don't think we will get (or really will deserve) one of the few precious pool C spots.  That being said, I see the SCIAC champ making their annual death march (of recent years) to Belton and HSU matches up against Whitworth (probably in Spokane if Whitworth remains unbeaten).  Then HSU and MHB go at it again in round 2 (if they both win in round 1) because....$$$.  Of course, there are still another 5 weeks or so left for somebody to drop the ball and throw this scenario out the window...

You don't think that Linfield could win out and get in? The loss to the D2 team won't count against yall. If Whitworth stays undefeated I like your chances if the Cats win out. So you think we match up well with Whitworth? I don't know much about them.

You could pull up one of their future games and check them out. Just an idea. I like to do this for teams we may see. I also like seeing other broadcasts and stadiums.

[wally_wabash]

I would wonder.. if Whitworth takes the NWC and HSU gets a pool C.. perhaps that could be their first match?

It would work for me.

I think that if we had a poll among the HSU fans, all considering that the Stagg Bowl 2018 will be in the north Houston suburb of Shenandoah, would Cowboy fans opt for being in the opposite bracket from UMHB with the very remote chance of a rematch, or maybe getting 1 playoff game (road or home) before the rematch with The CRU?

I would love to be in the opposite bracket off UMHB. I think given the opportunity, we could do some damage in the postseason if we didn't run into the train that never stops named UMHB. With that being said, I hope Whitworth and Linfield both win out along with us and UMHB. That would give the Northwest two teams in to play, then you have the Cali team that usually plays either UMHB or Linfield. That would force another decision to be made by the committee and I think we do have their respect. Just my perspective, anyone else have any thoughts that allows HSU to play a first round playoff game against someone other than UMHB or Linfield? haha

Linfield guy chiming in here.  I don't see us making the playoffs this year.  Even if we win out, I don't think we will get (or really will deserve) one of the few precious pool C spots.  That being said, I see the SCIAC champ making their annual death march (of recent years) to Belton and HSU matches up against Whitworth (probably in Spokane if Whitworth remains unbeaten).  Then HSU and MHB go at it again in round 2 (if they both win in round 1) because....$$$.  Of course, there are still another 5 weeks or so left for somebody to drop the ball and throw this scenario out the window...

You don't think that Linfield could win out and get in? The loss to the D2 team won't count against yall. If Whitworth stays undefeated I like your chances if the Cats win out. So you think we match up well with Whitworth? I don't know much about them.

Linfield would be an interesting at-large case.  Even though Linfield is not playing to the level that we are accustomed to seeing Linfield play at, I think their SOS is going to be fine thanks to Redlands rolling their way through the SCIAC.  Should Whitworth and Redlands both win out, there's a good chance Linfield gets to be 1-1 vs. RROs, which is good. 

The bugaboo is that the West region is always deep and getting to the top of that at-large pile in that region is hard.  Linfield kind of has to root for Oshkosh to lose again, and for the Tommie/Johnnie loser to lose a second time.  It's a little too blasé to simply say that the loss to Carroll (NAIA, not D2 btw) doesn't count- it is secondary criteria and to the extent that Carroll isn't a top level NAIA team, I don't believe Linfield should get a complete pass for that result), but recency bias may help Linfield there as well (in the instance that say St. John's picks up a week 11 loss to Thomas More- that's going to cost St. John's more than Linfield's Week 2 loss to Carroll).  Also have to keep an eye on the ARC should somebody like Central wind up as a one-loss runner up.  It's a minefield for Linfield to get to the postseason, but I wouldn't count them out just yet. 

[DFWCrufan]

News report Channel 6 on the UMHB V. HSU Game... https://www.kcentv.com/video/sports/umhb-pummels-hardin-simmons/500-8274351?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5bbac25e04d30123e776c365&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Notice at :40 the HSU player takes a dirty shot after the play and kicks the ballcarrier after the play...