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[wally_wabash]

Question for those who are more knowledgeable of the subject than I am- How much does the Salisbury loss help HSU and Linfield playoff hopes?

Probably unchanged?  Unless Montclair gets ranked, then you'll want Salisbury buried behind the Cortaca Jug winner if they lose to Frostburg next week.  But based on last week's rankings, Linfield and HSU weren't getting compared with Salisbury in the East anyway as Cortland was the top at-large team there. 

Generally speaking though, any team that it is lingering around the Pool C edge losing is good for any other team in the same position.  For bubble teams, the fewer  other teams hanging around with one loss, the better. 

[HSUCowboy2015]

Question for those who are more knowledgeable of the subject than I am- How much does the Salisbury loss help HSU and Linfield playoff hopes?

Probably unchanged?  Unless Montclair gets ranked, then you'll want Salisbury buried behind the Cortaca Jug winner if they lose to Frostburg next week.  But based on last week's rankings, Linfield and HSU weren't getting compared with Salisbury in the East anyway as Cortland was the top at-large team there. 

Generally speaking though, any team that it is lingering around the Pool C edge losing is good for any other team in the same position.  For bubble teams, the fewer  other teams hanging around with one loss, the better.

I think the best thing that happened to HSU over the weekend was Brockport holding off Cortland. Now Brockport is the AQ and Cortland needs a pool C bid with 2 losses. St. Thomas and Bethel will face off h2h this weekend and I think that'll knock one of those out of contention. With all that being said, Wally, any update on your pool c teams or do you want to wait until the next regional rankings come out?

[UMHB03]

Ok second attempt on playoff bracket with one week left.
This is kinda out there so.
East
8 Endicott(a) at 1 Brockport(a)
5 Merchant Marine (b) at 4 John Hopkins(a)
7 Western Connecticut(a) at 2 Delaware Valley(a)
6 Husson (a) at 3 RPI (a)

North
8 Hanover (a) at 1 Mt. Union (a)
6 Muhlenburg(c) at 3 John Carroll (c)
7 Eureka (a) at 2 North Central (a)
5 Washington+Jefferson (a) at 4 Trine(a)

South one flight
7 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (a) at 1 Mary Hardin Baylor(a)
5 Wittenberg(a) at 4 Centre (c)
8 Hampton-Sydney (a) at 2 Frostburg State(a)
6 Maryville (a) at 3 Berry (a)

West one flight
8 Dubuque (a) at 1 UW- Whitewater (a)
6 Monmouth (a) at 4 Bethel(c)
7 Martin Luther (a) at 2 St John(a)
5 Hardin Simmons (c) at 3 Whitworth(a)

I'd love this bracket, but I can't see the cheap skates at the NCAA allowing a non-flight UMHB/HSU matchup, in the 2nd round at the latest, to get away.

[DFWCrufan]

LINFIELD does not deserve to be in this season. Could beat Whitworth second time around but would get whacked in the 2nd round. We don't know what the team actually is.
UMHB could play all road games again and they'd be fine.

(In my best Dr. Evil voice) Oh  Mr. DOC, your missing the final plan...Bwwaaahahahahaha..(rubs hands evilly) A four game run at the Cruthedral culminating in the Stagg Bowl in Texas...And we will take over the World! WE will ply your puny players and coaching staff with copious amounts of BBQ, the craft beers will numb your reflexes and we will please and thank ya until you cannot take it any more and surrender, we will stun you with hospitality! Yes Mr. DOC, we have a few nemesis which stand in our way UMU is indeed a foil, but we have a giant sun mirror kinda thinggy to aim the suns beam into the OL of UMU on the field causing temporary blindness and tearing. So you see Mr. DOC, our plans.. they are coming to fruition....(Pulls off obviously fake mask revealing Rob Cushman) we... are behind it....(Dun Dun Donnnnnnn)

And No the Cru does not desire to be road warriors

[wally_wabash]

Ok second attempt on playoff bracket with one week left.
This is kinda out there so.
East
8 Endicott(a) at 1 Brockport(a)
5 Merchant Marine (b) at 4 John Hopkins(a)
7 Western Connecticut(a) at 2 Delaware Valley(a)
6 Husson (a) at 3 RPI (a)

North
8 Hanover (a) at 1 Mt. Union (a)
6 Muhlenburg(c) at 3 John Carroll (c)
7 Eureka (a) at 2 North Central (a)
5 Washington+Jefferson (a) at 4 Trine(a)

South one flight
7 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (a) at 1 Mary Hardin Baylor(a)
5 Wittenberg(a) at 4 Centre (c)
8 Hampton-Sydney (a) at 2 Frostburg State(a)
6 Maryville (a) at 3 Berry (a)

West one flight
8 Dubuque (a) at 1 UW- Whitewater (a)
6 Monmouth (a) at 4 Bethel(c)
7 Martin Luther (a) at 2 St John(a)
5 Hardin Simmons (c) at 3 Whitworth(a)

I'd love this bracket, but I can't see the cheap skates at the NCAA allowing a non-flight UMHB/HSU matchup, in the 2nd round at the latest, to get away.

Everybody loves taking shots, but the NCAA absorbed cost to avoid pairing UMHB and HSU in the first round in each of the last two years.  Should they go back to just making this a first round rematch? 

Question for those who are more knowledgeable of the subject than I am- How much does the Salisbury loss help HSU and Linfield playoff hopes?

Probably unchanged?  Unless Montclair gets ranked, then you'll want Salisbury buried behind the Cortaca Jug winner if they lose to Frostburg next week.  But based on last week's rankings, Linfield and HSU weren't getting compared with Salisbury in the East anyway as Cortland was the top at-large team there. 

Generally speaking though, any team that it is lingering around the Pool C edge losing is good for any other team in the same position.  For bubble teams, the fewer  other teams hanging around with one loss, the better.

I think the best thing that happened to HSU over the weekend was Brockport holding off Cortland. Now Brockport is the AQ and Cortland needs a pool C bid with 2 losses. St. Thomas and Bethel will face off h2h this weekend and I think that'll knock one of those out of contention. With all that being said, Wally, any update on your pool c teams or do you want to wait until the next regional rankings come out?

There will be something new somewhere after the rankings are released on Wednesday for sure. 

[DFWCrufan]

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[UMHB03]

Ok second attempt on playoff bracket with one week left.
This is kinda out there so.
East
8 Endicott(a) at 1 Brockport(a)
5 Merchant Marine (b) at 4 John Hopkins(a)
7 Western Connecticut(a) at 2 Delaware Valley(a)
6 Husson (a) at 3 RPI (a)

North
8 Hanover (a) at 1 Mt. Union (a)
6 Muhlenburg(c) at 3 John Carroll (c)
7 Eureka (a) at 2 North Central (a)
5 Washington+Jefferson (a) at 4 Trine(a)

South one flight
7 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (a) at 1 Mary Hardin Baylor(a)
5 Wittenberg(a) at 4 Centre (c)
8 Hampton-Sydney (a) at 2 Frostburg State(a)
6 Maryville (a) at 3 Berry (a)

West one flight
8 Dubuque (a) at 1 UW- Whitewater (a)
6 Monmouth (a) at 4 Bethel(c)
7 Martin Luther (a) at 2 St John(a)
5 Hardin Simmons (c) at 3 Whitworth(a)

I'd love this bracket, but I can't see the cheap skates at the NCAA allowing a non-flight UMHB/HSU matchup, in the 2nd round at the latest, to get away.

Everybody loves taking shots, but the NCAA absorbed cost to avoid pairing UMHB and HSU in the first round in each of the last two years.  Should they go back to just making this a first round rematch? 

Ofcourse not. They'd be even bigger cheap skates if they did that.

[wally_wabash]

I'd love this bracket, but I can't see the cheap skates at the NCAA allowing a non-flight UMHB/HSU matchup, in the 2nd round at the latest, to get away.

Everybody loves taking shots, but the NCAA absorbed cost to avoid pairing UMHB and HSU in the first round in each of the last two years.  Should they go back to just making this a first round rematch? 

Ofcourse not. They'd be even bigger cheap skates if they did that.

My point is that they stopped being cheap to do UMHB and HSU a favor.  They don't have to do that. 

I understand that UMHB football exists in their little vacuum of excess and luxury, but that ain't the way the rest of D3 lives, man.  You're lucky that you don't get that rematch every single time HSU makes the tournament.  Be grateful. 

[roocru]

I'd love this bracket, but I can't see the cheap skates at the NCAA allowing a non-flight UMHB/HSU matchup, in the 2nd round at the latest, to get away.

Everybody loves taking shots, but the NCAA absorbed cost to avoid pairing UMHB and HSU in the first round in each of the last two years.  Should they go back to just making this a first round rematch? 

Ofcourse not. They'd be even bigger cheap skates if they did that.

My point is that they stopped being cheap to do UMHB and HSU a favor.  They don't have to do that. 

I understand that UMHB football exists in their little vacuum of excess and luxury, but that ain't the way the rest of D3 lives, man.  You're lucky that you don't get that rematch every single time HSU makes the tournament.  Be grateful.

Like they did from 2002 thru 2008!  First round was always Trinity or HSU.  I an grateful every time it is not someone in Texas for round 1 or 2!   

[Kelly Boggs]

Wally is right. The past two years the NCAA gave what many ASC/HSU fans believed was warranted. HSU did not deliver; dropping two to Linfield. Why should the committee do it again? If HSU does get in and is matched up with UMHB in the first round, the Cowboys will only have themselves to blame.

While it's interesting to play new teams in the playoffs, playing HSU doesn't bother me. FYI: The last time HSU won a playoff game was 2000.

[CowboyAlum261]

Wally is right. The past two years the NCAA gave what many ASC/HSU fans believed was warranted. HSU did not deliver; dropping two to Linfield. Why should the committee do it again? If HSU does get in and is matched up with UMHB in the first round, the Cowboys will only have themselves to blame.

While it's interesting to play new teams in the playoffs, playing HSU doesn't bother me. FYI: The last time HSU won a playoff game was 2000.

I agree, although to be fair it's not like we've been matched up against patsies in the first round either. I've always assumed the committee moved HSU away from UMHB in the first round for UMHB's benefit. It'd be pretty odd to send a 4 or 5 seed to the first or second overall seed in the first round.

[UMHB03]

I'd love this bracket, but I can't see the cheap skates at the NCAA allowing a non-flight UMHB/HSU matchup, in the 2nd round at the latest, to get away.

Everybody loves taking shots, but the NCAA absorbed cost to avoid pairing UMHB and HSU in the first round in each of the last two years.  Should they go back to just making this a first round rematch? 

Ofcourse not. They'd be even bigger cheap skates if they did that.

My point is that they stopped being cheap to do UMHB and HSU a favor.  They don't have to do that. 

I understand that UMHB football exists in their little vacuum of excess and luxury, but that ain't the way the rest of D3 lives, man.  You're lucky that you don't get that rematch every single time HSU makes the tournament.  Be grateful.

Honestly, I don't have that much of a problem with facing HSU in the 2nd round, but to say that the NCAA is doing us a FAVOR by not pitting us against a top 10 team in the first round is laughable. The fact that they EVER did that, and that it is being discussed as a possibility this year, is a travesty. When was the last time Mount Union or Whitewater had to do that when they were undefeated and top 5? I understand the geography issue, and location should be taken into consideration to the greatest extent that reasonably authentic seeding allows, but the NCAA is not so impoverished that they should be excused for completely disregarding fairness and equitability, and discriminating against programs based on where they're located.

Again, I'm glad that didn't happen the last couple of years, but the fact that the NCAA committee finally achieved the MINIMUM level of fairness should not earn them some kind of glowing praise.

[Ralph Turner]

Wally is right. The past two years the NCAA gave what many ASC/HSU fans believed was warranted. HSU did not deliver; dropping two to Linfield. Why should the committee do it again? If HSU does get in and is matched up with UMHB in the first round, the Cowboys will only have themselves to blame.

While it's interesting to play new teams in the playoffs, playing HSU doesn't bother me. FYI: The last time HSU won a playoff game was 2000.

I agree, although to be fair it's not like we've been matched up against patsies in the first round either. I've always assumed the committee moved HSU away from UMHB in the first round for UMHB's benefit. It'd be pretty odd to send a 4 or 5 seed to the first or second overall seed in the first round.

HSU could have made its case in the last 2 years. Otherwise, you can look at the results as a Pool C losing to a Pool A bid.  They were a #4 or #5 seed playing a #3 or #4. UMHB got a West Region #6 or #7 as the first round game.

In the second round, you expect a #1 vs #4 anyway.

[Ralph Turner]

UMHB03, I believe that the D3 budget for its activities for all sports in 3.18% of the NCAA budget. (I will appreciate corrections.)

That money comes from March Madness and not CFP.

[wally_wabash]

I'd love this bracket, but I can't see the cheap skates at the NCAA allowing a non-flight UMHB/HSU matchup, in the 2nd round at the latest, to get away.

Everybody loves taking shots, but the NCAA absorbed cost to avoid pairing UMHB and HSU in the first round in each of the last two years.  Should they go back to just making this a first round rematch? 

Ofcourse not. They'd be even bigger cheap skates if they did that.

My point is that they stopped being cheap to do UMHB and HSU a favor.  They don't have to do that. 

I understand that UMHB football exists in their little vacuum of excess and luxury, but that ain't the way the rest of D3 lives, man.  You're lucky that you don't get that rematch every single time HSU makes the tournament.  Be grateful.

Honestly, I don't have that much of a problem with facing HSU in the 2nd round, but to say that the NCAA is doing us a FAVOR by not pitting us against a top 10 team in the first round is laughable. The fact that they EVER did that, and that it is being discussed as a possibility this year, is a travesty. When was the last time Mount Union or Whitewater had to do that when they were undefeated and top 5? I understand the geography issue, and location should be taken into consideration to the greatest extent that reasonably authentic seeding allows, but the NCAA is not so impoverished that they should be excused for completely disregarding fairness and equitability, and discriminating against programs based on where they're located.

Again, I'm glad that didn't happen the last couple of years, but the fact that the NCAA committee finally achieved the MINIMUM level of fairness should not earn them some kind of glowing praise.

No, sir.  You very obviously do not understand the geography issue.