FB: American Southwest Conference

[Ron Boerger]

HSU vs MHB.  In most people's opinion the top tier of the ASC, head to head. 

Anyone who doesn't have this opinion doesn't deserve to have their opinion counted.   

[Toby Taff]

Anyone who doesn't have this opinion doesn't deserve to have their opinion counted.

I certainly agree!  I'm just being conscious of billboard fodder.  

[crusader4life]

Josh,

from the Willamette web site http://www.willamette.edu/athletics/football/records_stats/2004/amhb.htm

                                                           WU     UMHB
FIRST DOWNS...................                      13       19
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............          54-289   55-237
PASSING YDS (NET).............                   68      130
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........            10-4-0  19-12-1
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....   64-357   74-367

UMHB has the stats different on their website,

                                                           UMHB       WU
FIRST DOWNS...................                       21       18
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............            50-352   62-282
PASSING YDS (NET).............                   151       74
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........              12-7-2   12-5-0
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....     62-503   74-356
Fumble Returns-Yards..........                  0-0      1-3
Punt Returns-Yards............                  4-54      2-6
Kickoff Returns-Yards.........                  3-40    8-109
Interception Returns-Yards....               0-0     2-13
Punts (Number-Avg)............             2-36.5   6-38.7
Fumbles-Lost..................                       3-3      4-2
Penalties-Yards...............                     9-95     6-47
Possession Time...............                  24:48    35:12
Third-Down Conversions........           3 of 10  4 of 17
Fourth-Down Conversions.......           1 of 1   2 of 4
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......             1-1      4-5
Sacks By: Number-Yards........               1-6     2-16

I don't know which one is the correct stats just seen the difference.

[Pat Coleman]

The difference is the question was about 2004 stats and you posted 2005 stats.

[jmnaseum]

This week --
                     HSU over LC
                     UMHB over TLU (closer than you think)
                     McM over AC (sorry roocru)
                     Sul Ross over MC
                     ETBU over HPU   

[Ralph Turner]

jmnaseum, please join us on the ASC Pick'em board.

[sethhpu]

What is the story behind ETBU? HPU spotted Wisc. LaCrosse 3 touchdowns before we started to play. LaCrosse is good don't get me wrong but HPU did have 3 turnovers. LaCross only outgained HPU by about 20 yards if I remember right.  Just wondering how good ETBU?

[Ron Boerger]

Four turnovers, actually.

ETBU is trying to rebuild after a disappointing 2004.   Too early to really draw any conclusions about how good they are.  I would say they have the potential to be more explosive than HPU but they have to regain the confidence lost in '04.  They were a surprise in '03, everyone went looking for them in '04 and they had some key injuries and losses.   Should be a decent game. 

[WSUFan]

What is the story behind ETBU? HPU spotted Wisc. LaCrosse 3 touchdowns before we started to play. LaCrosse is good don't get me wrong but HPU did have 3 turnovers. LaCross only outgained HPU by about 20 yards if I remember right.  Just wondering how good ETBU?

HPU had 4 turnovers, but only one of those resulted in a score for the Eagles. When you look at the box score, there were a few statistics that stood out to me. Total yards were 386 to 342, but La Crosse ran 20 fewer plays than HPU and the discrepency lies in the 2nd quarter when HPU had the ball for almost 10 1/2 minutes. The other one that jumped out was the red zone. UW-L reached it 5 times resulting in 3 scores, while HPU only got there once for their lone score. It sounds like HPU was solid against the ground game, they just gave up the big play through the air.

[Ralph Turner]

WSUFan, how much diffference in UW-L's play vs. HPU can you attribute to 1st game vs. 2nd game?

[WSUFan]

WSUFan, how much diffference in UW-L's play vs. HPU can you attribute to 1st game vs. 2nd game?

A pretty sizeable difference. Opening up against South Dakota State allowed UW-L to take a look at a lot of their players. Defensively, they didn't have film to study HPU on, so they practiced with the ability to change on the fly. HPU was able to run the ball effectively up the middle, but at that point they were already down 20-0.

[Pat Coleman]

Thanks, Ron.  With the server switch, I've caught myself wondering how many posts I'd have if we'd been able to count all the way back to 2002 when I first found out about the site.  Looking forward to the next 1,000!

You didn't lose any in the switch. You had 945 on football and 10 on hoops.

[Josh Bowerman]

No, I meant the switch a couple of years ago, Pat.  Sorry for the confusion.

[dsc]

HSU forever!



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[Pat Coleman]

Alright, you're taken care of.

Yeah, true Josh -- we didn't start counting posts until a software upgrade a couple years ago.

Looking forward to you and Ron's work this weekend.