FB: American Southwest Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Minni,

Back in May, there was an announcement you might want to look at.

This was also posted in a message on this board mere hours ago. Try to keep up.

[Ron Boerger]

And I have mentioned something about it in three of four "Around the South" columns so far.  Guess my readership is shrinking 

[Bill McCabe]

Any word on who the other schools are looking to schedule in place of Austin College?

[etbualum]

I know ETBU will play Trinity, but I do not think we have a second game yet.

As far as a little about ETBU
Enrollment 1350 ish
Cost in 2005 16,700
Education, Nursing are excellent programs
Business is probably the largest program

[Josh Bowerman]

I'm pretty sure my Latin is correct, Trent--at least for the organizational purposes that it's there for.   

You did get the translation right, though.

[Bill McCabe]

etbualum,  Who is Austin College going to play for their non-conference games?  That will be an interesting matchup with Trinity.  Glad to see that happen.  I would thing TLU will continue to play Trinity, also.

[Norman]

Minni,

Back in May, there was an announcement you might want to look at.

This was also posted in a message on this board mere hours ago. Try to keep up.

All you had to do was answer the guys question.  You guys that spend your lives on here talking down to everyone that asks questions or posts comments.  I am not referring to everyone, but you know who you are.  Cut out the sarcasm and just answer questions.

[Spirit_of_66]

I'm pretty sure my Latin is correct, Trent--at least for the organizational purposes that it's there for.   

You did get the translation right, though.

From my latin/english Bible. It was driving me crazy to know what it said.

I found a Psalms translator on the web as well.

http://members.tripod.com/~gunhouse/psalmstxt/ps61.htm

[Spirit_of_66]

Minni,

Back in May, there was an announcement you might want to look at.

This was also posted in a message on this board mere hours ago. Try to keep up.

All you had to do was answer the guys question.  You guys that spend your lives on here talking down to everyone that asks questions or posts comments.  I am not referring to everyone, but you know who you are.  Cut out the sarcasm and just answer questions.

You are funny Norman. That made me laugh hard. Dude, I asked you to stop the all caps and you appologized and I accepted. Lighten up Francis.

[sthrncwby]

When austin college leaves the asc, will the conference lose its automatic playoff bid?  I read the article about the move to the scac.  One line caught my attention.
"We are pleased to offer membership to Austin College in the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference," said commissioner Steve Argo. "Austin brings a strong Division III program to our conference and we look forward to a long and successful relationship."
I remember the weekend of 9/11, austin college waited till the last minute to cancel a game against HSU.   I remember HSU was picked to win.  I hope that long and successful relationship can work with a program that's going to try and weasel out of a possible beating.

[Bill McCabe]

I remember the weekend of 9/11, austin college waited till the last minute to cancel a game against HSU.   I remember HSU was picked to win.  I hope that long and successful relationship can work with a program that's going to try and weasel out of a possible beating.

You can't be serious about them weaseling out of the game.  Games were cancelled all over the country because of the terrorist attack.  Wake up.

[Josh Bowerman]

No, the ASC is safe.  The SCAC would have lost their automatic bid without AC, though.

In DIII football, every conference with at least seven member schools (that play football, obviously), qualify for an automatic bid to the playoffs, or a Pool A bid.  Conference champions who play in leagues with fewer than seven teams can qualify for Pool B bids.  The rest are at-large spots, or Pool C.

Up until this season, there were more Pool B slots available than quality teams to fill them--due to a fair amount of conference consolidation.  Ergo, we were seeing several 2-3 loss Pool B teams in the playoffs.  

This year, however, the number of Pool A/Pool B slots has been adjusted to reflect the number of potential conference champions from both Pool A & B conferences.  What this essentially means in laymans terms is that runners up from Pool B conferences will be required to compete for Pool C bids on their own merits against runners up from Pool A conferences--making the whole selection process A) more fair and B) more conducive to filling the playoff field with the most qualified teams.

The SCAC needed AC to stay at 7 football playing schools.  The ASC now has only 9 football playing members, and will be required to schedule an additional non-conference game starting next year.  This will present significant problems for some schools, but opportunities for DIII fans as well (i.e. the HSU game vs. Linfield the next two years).  

But, the ASC retains the all-important auto bid--and that's the bottom-line most important thing for the conference.  Long answer to your question, but I hope that this helps a bit.  Hopefully, others will chime in, as well.

[Josh Bowerman]

Bill, if memory serves me correctly....

...The stinky thing was that they had and HSU had mutually assured one another that they would play the game despite the circumstances.  But, AC cancelled almost literally as the HSU players were boarding the bus to travel to Sherman the day before the game.  It caused significant inconvenience and a fair expense to HSU as a result. 

Plus, if you'll remember, that season AC was supposed challenge for the conference championship--and getting out of their game vs. HSU (who wound up in the national semifinals) was convenient for the 'Roos, to say the least.

That's why Oscar Page, President of AC, remains on the black-list of several HSU fans--myself included.  That and the fact he'd been trying to move the 'Roos to the SCAC for several years.  Guess we in the ASC aren't good enough for AC.   

[Bill McCabe]

There has never been a time like 9/11 and people were scrambling all over the country to decide what to do.  Most everyone cancelled that weekend.  I don't if anyone knows what AC was doing behind closed doors.

[umhbex_98-01]

bill-
ac still managed to host soccer and volleyball that same weekend. their refusal to host hsu alos caused the cancellation of umhb/mcm. as i said in an earlier post, that may have been fortunate, but at the time i was a player and hated missing a game for "shady" reasons.