FB: American Southwest Conference

[footballfan413]

Damn, I am mad at myself for getting into that with you, the whole, "my dad can beat up your dad," thing.  I have not done that for a long time.  I prefer to stay positive.  The Hawks don't need me to defend them anyway.  My best to the Cru and their fans.  Hope you all have a great rest of your season.   8)
     

[yessir]

I was not getting into the "my dad can beat up your dad". I was just stating the facts that led me to believe why the UMHB defense performed better than the UW defense.

By the way, nobody is talking about the Badgers, therefore to me whenever is see UW on a Division III football board, discussing the UMHB vs. UWW game, then UW means Whitewater. To me that is....

But just in case you get confused I will use UWW.

Like i've also stated before, the competition in the WIAC, to me is alot tougher than in the ASC. Therefore, the previous stats for UMHB, didn't really play a part in my statement. I think that if Beavers can average 178 yards a game against teams in the WIAC, yet only manage to get 77 against the CRU. Then they played him pretty good. As well as winning the stat battle on all but one defensive statistic, being the turnover margin.

I'm sure UW-Eau Claire game planned around Beavers, yet he still broke 100+ on them. If he was able to run for 177 against a D2 St. Cloud State team that is 4-5.

With that said, the UMHB defense did pretty good against UWW. Definately better than 41 points.

[dallas]

Yessir,
Do you think being down 31-0 had anything to do with MHB being able to focus everything on the UWW rushing attack?  I think if I were a defensive coordinator, and down by 31 points, I would probably focus the rest of the game on stopping the all-american back knowing that UWW was not going to pass unless they absolutely had to.  I shouldn't even really respond to your comments, because I think MHB has a GREAT defense.  One of the best in the nation.   

One other thing, are you really complaining about the refs in a 41-14 loss.....especially after footballfan already pointed out the yardage from penalties?

[Ralph Turner]

I think that the penalties that a team sees early in the game will give a veteran team the clue as to how the game will be called.

McMurry saw "different" officiating in Alabama at Huntingdon.  After the first off-sides by UMHB due to the UWW center head motion, I think that I would have called for an official to explain the local variation in officiating that one can get around the country and then moved on from there.  UMHB wasn't going to get that call...you just ignore it and play on. 

[yessir]

My comments are not trying to take anything away from UWW. They have a very disciplined and talented football team. I was thoroughly impressed by everything I saw on the UWW campus. They have a great program. UMHB got beat, beat bad. However, I do not feel like the lose was as bad as the score stated. That's all I was arguing. I stated the facts that I had to support my thoughts on the game. That's all I was doing. Everybody has their opinion. Hopefully we meet again this year.

[dallas]

My comments are not trying to take anything away from UWW. They have a very disciplined and talented football team. I was thoroughly impressed by everything I saw on the UWW campus. They have a great program. UMHB got beat, beat bad. However, I do not feel like the lose was as bad as the score stated. That's all I was arguing. I stated the facts that I had to support my thoughts on the game. That's all I was doing. Everybody has their opinion. Hopefully we meet again this year.

Regardless of what state you live in or what team you were rooting for on Saturday, I think everyone who saw the game would agree that the loss was not as bad as the score suggested.  Two great teams.  I think a rematch would be a HUGE game!  Good luck the rest of the season guys!

[Pat Coleman]

I was not getting into the "my dad can beat up your dad". I was just stating the facts that led me to believe why the UMHB defense performed better than the UW defense.

By the way, nobody is talking about the Badgers, therefore to me whenever is see UW on a Division III football board, discussing the UMHB vs. UWW game, then UW means Whitewater. To me that is....

There are eight UWs in Division III football. Specificity is always best.

[yessir]

I was not getting into the "my dad can beat up your dad". I was just stating the facts that led me to believe why the UMHB defense performed better than the UW defense.

By the way, nobody is talking about the Badgers, therefore to me whenever is see UW on a Division III football board, discussing the UMHB vs. UWW game, then UW means Whitewater. To me that is....

There are eight UWs in Division III football. Specificity is always best.

I am aware of that. Of those eight UW's, which "Specific" team have we been discussing in this forum for the last 8 pages. I guess everyone can't follow the discussion therefore I will try to be more specific in the future. Sorry for the misunderstanding Pat Coleman.

[janesvilleflash]

yessir....I am a UWW fan who stood behind the UMHB stands. Actully walked around behind the stands depending on the line of scrimmage. I do the same for all games there, because I can see better.

I never cheer though, or display any emotion on ANY play, nor do I wear any UWW fan gear. I did notice some other WW fans there, but didn't notice them being overly vocal. Sorry if it was a problem for you. If you come back for the playoffs, I will watch from the end zone.

[Rick Akins]

janesville:

I (kindly I hope) jumped on the UWW folks for being so sensitive about the jumping on the "W" and national anthem issues.  I will now kindly jump on any UMHB people who complain about people standing up the hill behind the visitor stands. All of you were very quiet and reserved. Stand or sit wherever you want!

The only time I have a problem with that is when it is inebriated college students getting in the faces of fans in the visitor stands when the home team makes a big play, which I have seen a few times.  UWW had so many big plays on Saturday that would have made for a long day--obviously I am grateful that did NOT happen Saturday.  UWW whipped UMHB on that day and we all need to move on and hopefully our team will learn a lot from it.

[umhb2001]

Something needs to be said, or questioned, about the lack of readiness by the UMHB coaching staff.  They did NOT prepare for this game.  It seemed like everyone, from coach to player, thought they would go in and walk over UWW.  WE  go our bhinds handed to us and if we think we are going to make it to Stagg then we have another thing coming with this team.

[retagent]

I was going to just post a comment that I put on the WIAC board, but figured I should put it here for all UMHB fans. I am a St John's alum/fan, but live near Whitewater, and sometimes go to games there because of it's proximity. I have gone to the last two SJU/UWW playoff games, and like you, left disappointed. I was there for the UMHB game and overheard a conversation one row back about the travel itinerary of the UMHB team. It was one of the bus drivers who ferried the team around. He was talking to a couple of UWW fans and was pointing out, in response to a question, that the UMHB sqaud did not appear to be cocky, and seemed to be a good group of fellows. Since I would think he has seen his share that were the opposoite, it made me believe that they had left a very positive impression on him. Kudos.

In response to Rick Akins, at last years SJU/UWW playoff game, a couple less than sober UWW students came over to the visitors side and tried to stir up some crap, by cheering loudly and drunkenly against the Johnnies. They were totally ignored, and since they didn't get a rise, left disappointdly. That's probably the best way to handle stuff like that.

[Kelly Boggs]

retagent,

Thanks for the good words on the CRU and the wise words for dealing with fools.

[HScoach]

Justin Beaver.
The guys has averaged 29 carries per game. With a total of 178.3 yards a game.
Yet the UMHB defense holds him to 77 yards on 29 carries. 23 of which came on the first TD of the game.  This is a guy who is second in the nation with 1248 rushing yards through 7 games. He has 8-200+ yard games in his career. Yet he couldn't manage to get 100+ against the stout CRU defense. When's the last time a team has held him
under 100+ yards. Answer that question?

2006 Stagg Bowl
RUSHING: UW-Whitewater-Justin Beaver 23 carries for 87 yards (3.8 ypc), zero TD's, long = 14 yds

[yessir]

Justin Beaver.
The guys has averaged 29 carries per game. With a total of 178.3 yards a game.
Yet the UMHB defense holds him to 77 yards on 29 carries. 23 of which came on the first TD of the game.  This is a guy who is second in the nation with 1248 rushing yards through 7 games. He has 8-200+ yard games in his career. Yet he couldn't manage to get 100+ against the stout CRU defense. When's the last time a team has held him
under 100+ yards. Answer that question?

2006 Stagg Bowl
RUSHING: UW-Whitewater-Justin Beaver 23 carries for 87 yards (3.8 ypc), zero TD's, long = 14 yds

Nice find, if I could karma you I would. I couldn't find any stats other than this year. Beavers ran really hard and hit the hole really hard. Reminded me alot of UMHB's Justin Bryson and HSU's Lance Moore. Sucks that due to his size he won't even get a chance to play at the next level.

Janesvilleflash.....There were a couple comments made by the people standing behind the stands. Yall definately had alot to cheer about. However, there really wasn't that many. But when your losing 31-0 and the home team stands aren't full, yet you have UWW fans screaming behind you. It was kind of annoying. But if you weren't one of the ones screaming then your fine in my book.

I hope the CRU bounces back strong this week. ETBU always plays us tough. GO CRU!!!