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[Bill McCabe]

My mistake.   

[crufootball]

How bout " The Battle for the Hardin Fortune"
or depending on the year " The Battle to play each other again in the Playoffs"

[@d3jason]

Sprint Football at Mansfield University, PA

Interesting article...

The Mansfield/Cornell sprint game was broadcast on local Pa television (I have Directv, so even in Delaware I end up gettting some central PA channels.) Cornell beat Mansfield 35-0.

Being an alum of Mansfield, I know most of us were not happy that the D-II program was dropped. I know I feel this is a weak attempt by their President to get us back into the fold ($$$, they'll get none of mine). They sent us letters inviting us for the weekend and trying stir up alumni support.

[minni]

No Bill that was not my prediction.  I am predicting a hard nosed fight in the trenches.  Games are won and lost on the defensive and offensive lines.  I am looking forward to a 12 round fight with a knockout blow delivered by the Cowboys. 

[Ron Boerger]

Sprint Football at Mansfield University, PA

Interesting article...

The Mansfield/Cornell sprint game was broadcast on local Pa television (I have Directv, so even in Delaware I end up gettting some central PA channels.) Cornell beat Mansfield 35-0.

Being an alum of Mansfield, I know most of us were not happy that the D-II program was dropped. I know I feel this is a weak attempt by their President to get us back into the fold ($$$, they'll get none of mine). They sent us letters inviting us for the weekend and trying stir up alumni support.

Football with weight limits - where you exclude all but a handful of potential players (172 lb max)?  No thanks. 

The article says "[...]Mansfield administrators hope to corner the market on smaller young men who want to play football but can't afford -- or can't qualify academically for -- the other schools in the league."  So their recruiting slogan will be "if you're small and not the brightest, come play football for us" ?   No offense to Mansfield, which may be a fine school, but they seem to be taking a lowest common denominator approach here.

If you look at the interactive graphic - the Mansfield lineman shown, with his 4.7 40, could easily play at a D3 school.  Maybe not an elite D3 school, maybe at 190-200# instead of 170, but real ball.  At 6'2" this kid probably towers over just about everyone else on the field in sprint ball.  WSJ would have been better off showing the typical 5'8" 170 kid that probably ends up playing OL.

[CRU96]

How bout " The Battle for the Hardin Fortune"
or depending on the year " The Battle to play each other again in the Playoffs"

crufootball,

My sentiments exactly.  It seems not matter which way this game goes, both UMHB and HSU could  play each other again in the playoffs.  If history serves me right, it would be in the first three rounds.  I could be wrong, but it seems the bracket seems to keep everyone close.  

Either way this should be a good game come Saturday.

Minni,

How about "The Family Fued."  May sound too similar to the "Backyard Brawl" of Mississippi College and Millsaps, but yeah its a start.  


 

[CRU96]

Sorry for the  misprint, "feud" is what I meant to say.  According to Webster's it means a mutual enmity or quarrel that is often prolonged or inveterate; especially: a blood feud.  (My third grade english teacher would be proud to see that as a dad and father of four I know check my spelling!)
 

[@d3jason]

Sprint Football at Mansfield University, PA

Interesting article...

The Mansfield/Cornell sprint game was broadcast on local Pa television (I have Directv, so even in Delaware I end up gettting some central PA channels.) Cornell beat Mansfield 35-0.

Being an alum of Mansfield, I know most of us were not happy that the D-II program was dropped. I know I feel this is a weak attempt by their President to get us back into the fold ($$$, they'll get none of mine). They sent us letters inviting us for the weekend and trying stir up alumni support.

Football with weight limits - where you exclude all but a handful of potential players (172 lb max)?  No thanks. 

The article says "[...]Mansfield administrators hope to corner the market on smaller young men who want to play football but can't afford -- or can't qualify academically for -- the other schools in the league."  So their recruiting slogan will be "if you're small and not the brightest, come play football for us" ?   No offense to Mansfield, which may be a fine school, but they seem to be taking a lowest common denominator approach here.

If you look at the interactive graphic - the Mansfield lineman shown, with his 4.7 40, could easily play at a D3 school.  Maybe not an elite D3 school, maybe at 190-200# instead of 170, but real ball.  At 6'2" this kid probably towers over just about everyone else on the field in sprint ball.  WSJ would have been better off showing the typical 5'8" 170 kid that probably ends up playing OL.

The other schools mentioned all have "real football" at the D-I FCS or BCS level. Like I said, she (The president at Mansfield) was taking some heat so she came up with this creative solution.

My wife summed it up perfectly "This is dumb. If you can have a sprint team you can have a real team." And it is an insult to those of us who went to Mansfield (which is not Cornell, Princeton, etc) to make a statement such as Ron refered to.

The program was mismanaged for years, they were embarassed so they dropped it. The saving money stuff is a bunch of bunk.

[Ron Boerger]

The latest AFCA poll is out.  South Region teams:

3.  UMHB
9.  W&J
11.  Hardin-Simmons
13.  Trinity
14.  Millsaps
18.  Wesley
21.  Del Valley
23.  Salisbury

RV:  Hampden-Sydney, WashU, CNU, DePauw, Louisiana College

[Ron Boerger]

And someone on this board has to know a bar around Austin where I can find a good selection of German bier.  Please!!

[Walburg - too far and limited selection.  F'burg - see Walburg].

[edit:  Sholtz Garden - limited selection and way too many orangebloods]

[etbualum]

Havent been to this one in Austin but did try the one in dallas.  It was a fun night.


http://austin.gingermanpub.com/

the website has a list

[crufootball]

I know this is off subject but does any one know if don Hansen will ever come back?

[CruGuy]

yessir -- The last trash talking between HSU-UMHB was actually about 4 years ago. Some UMHB fans were posting about "the train's coming into the station . . .", etc. Then, HSU beat UMHB soundly in Belton. Then a few HSU fans returned the "favor" before the playoffs and UMHB returned a "favor" in their playoff game at HSU.
At least that's the way I recall.
Perhaps a combo of both sides learning a lesson and UMHB's ensuing domination are to blame for the relative demise of trash talking before that game.

ahhhh...the year we made the shirts....I took it off leaving the stadium and to this day haven't found it in myself to put it back on...sometimes in my nightmares I see passes flying straight to will galusha...hopefully there won't be a repeat this year

Like Jason said in his column, this game should definetly help give us a clearer picture of where everyone in the south stands...has anyone informed him that HSU is the cowboys and not the tigers? i was half way through the article and very confused before I realized what was going on

I'm also not near as concerned about a name for the game as I am with getting some sort of holy relic that the winner can keep locked up in a glass display case all year long...other rivalries have axes, cups, trophies and such...I was thinking of something that represents our geography...maybe a golden sawed off shotgun? ball of barbed wire? ornery armadillo?

back to the name thing...maybe "Bible belt beat-down" or as in 2003 "Don't Forget about ETBU"

[Toby Taff]

I've been trying to think of a name for the game, but nothing works for me.  I can't find a common thread to exploit for a name.  I have thought about geographical location, church affiliation, mascot names, etc and everything seems forced or the identifier could be attached to another school as well.  For Example:  I like "the Cen-Tex Baptist Showdown" or "clash of the Baptists" but HPU is also a cen-tex Baptist University and anything having to do with fighting and "Baptist" is redundant.

So I'm stumped. I guess another possibility would be to build a trophy and name it after the trophy like the Monon Bell game.  Keeping with the Baptist theme, maybe a Bronzed Baptist Hymnal or perhaps it could look to the mascots and be a battle for the Spurs and Shield trophy...

I'm writing this stream of consciousness, but I kind of like the Spurs and Shield thing...

[yessir]

I'm stumped also.....I was thinking something to do with....-out with the old (HSU) in with the new (UMHB) but nothing is catchy enough....I think we need a prop to stage the game off of...a Bell, an Axle, A Fat Lady.....Since that's what been singing on the HSU sidelines for the last couple of years.....I'll keep thinking. Maybe something will come to me.......