FB: American Southwest Conference

[yessir]

You know what I'm tired of ........ of people comparing  HSU to Wesley. The bottom line is that we beat them both and we settled all of our arguements on the field. So lets worry about W&J since they will be ready to play us and are very well coached.

i've kept quiet after week one of the playoffs because we lost...but this just doesn't make any since to me! You won....YES congratulations!! BUT lets get this straight....it was a great game which very well could've gone either way....just be lucky it went your way because statistically (and before you get all fired up....ya'll won which means you are the better team...i guess) we won almost every aspect of the game. We had more than 100 more yards then ya'll and from what i saw we completely dominiated you offensively, especially in the trenches and defensivelly we kept you under 180ish yards rushing, hsu had that much rushing and we're a passing team. The reason ppl are comparing is because HSU is an unbelievable team and unfortuanatly they are sitting home instead of still playing. Dont get me wrong this is not an excuse....I just had to say something because your comment was rediculous. But hey GOOD LUCK THIS WEEKEND!!!

You almost got yourself believeing yall won....keep wishin buddy. GGGGOOOOOOO CRU!!!

I'll never forget the sound of the stadium whenever we kicked the ball off to W&J in 2004...they were all hoopin and hollaring...."Where's your horses at.....Bring any cows...etc. "...soon as we kicked off they figured out were our horses were. Running down the field to smash them in the mouth....then they go 3 and out and PJ returns the punt for a TD.....Awesome.   The speed difference in that game was unreal.....hopefully this weekend is a repeat of that game. Was trying to be there but Turkey Drag needs to see the Dodge....so Good Luck and Everyone travel safe

[Bob.Gregg]

And Cowboy-Steeler Super bowls are special games..

Two of them were, anyway!!!

[footballfan12]

Yessir,

I do not know if the speed factor was that big of a difference in 2004. If I recall, there were WRs for W&J running wide open. The difference may have just been in special teams. I am pretty sure W&J had a good bit of speed at the WR position that year along with in their secondary. Let's do not forget PJ was drafted to play baseball so he was a pretty special player. I would say that speed was more of a difference in 2006.

I would venture to say this years game will be rather interesting. W&J's defense has been much better against the run as of late. Also, W&J's passing game is very efficient and as long as the run game can keep them from throwing the ball downfield too many times than this game should be close. I would say turnovers make the difference in this game and if UMHB can hold onto the ball then it could be a long day for the Presidents.

How do the UMHB RB's compare to those of 2004 and 2006, Rollins was a pretty special athlete?

[Josh Bowerman]

Ralph, they still play the Big 33 game, but it's now an all star game between Pennsylvania kids and Ohio kids.

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph, they still play the Big 33 game, but it's now an all star game between Pennsylvania kids and Ohio kids.

Yeah, not the same thing, is it?   

(Texas holds the 3-1 margin in the series, too.)



I hear that Texas D-1 Coaches are not wanting their recruits to play in those games, for fear of injury.

Any substances to that report?

[Bill McCabe]

Yessir,

I do not know if the speed factor was that big of a difference in 2004. If I recall, there were WRs for W&J running wide open. The difference may have just been in special teams. I am pretty sure W&J had a good bit of speed at the WR position that year along with in their secondary. Let's do not forget PJ was drafted to play baseball so he was a pretty special player. I would say that speed was more of a difference in 2006.

I would venture to say this years game will be rather interesting. W&J's defense has been much better against the run as of late. Also, W&J's passing game is very efficient and as long as the run game can keep them from throwing the ball downfield too many times than this game should be close. I would say turnovers make the difference in this game and if UMHB can hold onto the ball then it could be a long day for the Presidents.

How do the UMHB RB's compare to those of 2004 and 2006, Rollins was a pretty special athlete?

Special teams were huge in the 2004 game.  Twice UMHB tackled the punter before he could get the punt away.  The players from that game seem to think they had a big speed advantage.  UMHB has 3 talented RBs this year.

[Bill McCabe]

Ralph, they still play the Big 33 game, but it's now an all star game between Pennsylvania kids and Ohio kids.

The only year Texas lost was when the game coincided with the THSCA All Star Game.

[crufootball]

Looks like coach Mike Sirianni  is trying to get the Cru to buy into the hype that this will be an easy game.

http://www.tdtnews.com/story/2008/12/4/54169

My favorite line in the story is from Coach Pete "(Sirianni) can complain all he wants but he's got some guys who can really play well. He's won a lot of ballgames, so don't start feeling sorry for him."

[umhb2001]

Yessir,

I do not know if the speed factor was that big of a difference in 2004. If I recall, there were WRs for W&J running wide open. The difference may have just been in special teams. I am pretty sure W&J had a good bit of speed at the WR position that year along with in their secondary. Let's do not forget PJ was drafted to play baseball so he was a pretty special player. I would say that speed was more of a difference in 2006.

I would venture to say this years game will be rather interesting. W&J's defense has been much better against the run as of late. Also, W&J's passing game is very efficient and as long as the run game can keep them from throwing the ball downfield too many times than this game should be close. I would say turnovers make the difference in this game and if UMHB can hold onto the ball then it could be a long day for the Presidents.

How do the UMHB RB's compare to those of 2004 and 2006, Rollins was a pretty special athlete?

We were very banged up during the  middle of the season.  We lost our game in Oregon during this time, but we have since righted that ship.  I think everyone would agree that it would be nice to have QD, but BTuck has played lights out, and our transfer from Baylor, Hurst, has been great as well. The one thing this did do for us was give us depth at the position.  Instead of maybe two or three quality RB's, we now have 4 or 5.  

I don't know how many of the players actually get on these boards, but I would venture to guess that they have a lot of respect for HSU, Wesley, and W&J.  They have seen the film.  They know what they are up against.  And since the trip to Oregon and last years defeat at UWW, I think the boys are playing much more poised and focused.  It will be a great game!

[crudbdad]

Yessir,

I do not know if the speed factor was that big of a difference in 2004. If I recall, there were WRs for W&J running wide open. The difference may have just been in special teams. I am pretty sure W&J had a good bit of speed at the WR position that year along with in their secondary. Let's do not forget PJ was drafted to play baseball so he was a pretty special player. I would say that speed was more of a difference in 2006.

I would venture to say this years game will be rather interesting. W&J's defense has been much better against the run as of late. Also, W&J's passing game is very efficient and as long as the run game can keep them from throwing the ball downfield too many times than this game should be close. I would say turnovers make the difference in this game and if UMHB can hold onto the ball then it could be a long day for the Presidents.

How do the UMHB RB's compare to those of 2004 and 2006, Rollins was a pretty special athlete?

We were very banged up during the  middle of the season.  We lost our game in Oregon during this time, but we have since righted that ship.  I think everyone would agree that it would be nice to have QD, but BTuck has played lights out, and our transfer from Baylor, Hurst, has been great as well. The one thing this did do for us was give us depth at the position.  Instead of maybe two or three quality RB's, we now have 4 or 5.  

I don't know how many of the players actually get on these boards, but I would venture to guess that they have a lot of respect for HSU, Wesley, and W&J.  They have seen the film.  They know what they are up against.  And since the trip to Oregon and last years defeat at UWW, I think the boys are playing much more poised and focused.  It will be a great game!

In talking to my son and some of his teammates I can assure you that they have the utmost respect for WJ and are not looking past anything but 12/6 @ 12:00. I think the SOU game brought more focus to the defense and believe Coach Harmon will have another great game plan for WJ.

[Ralph Turner]

"(Sirianni) can complain all he wants but he's got some guys who can really play well. He's won a lot of ballgames, so don't start feeling sorry for him."   Coach "Fred"

"We're not an elite team until we beat a Mary Hardin-Baylor or a Wesley," he [Coach Sirianni] said. "We haven't had success with southern teams, so that win last week was a big hump to get over. But the hump is even bigger this week."

He can po'mouth his football team as well as DKR (Darrell K Royal) could those Longhorn teams from the 1960's and '70's..   

[CruAlum39]

footballfan12,

I did not see the game in '06, but I beg to differ your opinion of '04.  I think speed had everything to do with that victory, whether the speed be on te special teams, offense or defense.

Yes, Chris Edwards was 27 of 53 for 310 yds, but team speed from UMHB kept forcing the W &J offense off the field.  Watching film on W & J that year, the receivers always caught many passes, but did a great job making additional yards after catch.  This was not the case against UMHB, where as soon as they caught the ball they were immediately wrapped up and tackled.  If you are going to rely on the pass as a ball control offense, you have to make yards after catch.  And if the receivers were running wide open, then Edwards was sacked 5 times that game and hurried out of the pocket many more.

Offensively, the fullback running game was good, but UMHB continued to  beat W & J to the corner on the option, where it gained most of its yards.

I think once again speed will be the determining factor.  Washington and Jefferson is a good football team and if they are faster than in years past, they have a good chance to win the ballgame.  Good luck to both teams!

GO CRU!!!!!

[Ralph Turner]

...

Yes, Chris Edwards was 27 of 53 for 310 yds, but team speed from UMHB kept forcing the W &J offense off the field.  Watching film on W & J that year, the receivers always caught many passes, but did a great job making additional yards after catch.  This was not the case against UMHB, where as soon as they caught the ball they were immediately wrapped up and tackled. ...

Does anyone have the stat on "yards after the catch" for W&J that year?

[yessir]

Yessir,

I do not know if the speed factor was that big of a difference in 2004. If I recall, there were WRs for W&J running wide open. The difference may have just been in special teams. I am pretty sure W&J had a good bit of speed at the WR position that year along with in their secondary. Let's do not forget PJ was drafted to play baseball so he was a pretty special player. I would say that speed was more of a difference in 2006.

Maybe the reason some of those WR were missed was because he was running for his life all day long.....5 sack...2 interception....if I recall even our FB broke for a TD....Chad was pretty fast but still a fullback breaking for a TD...there was a major speed advantage in all phases of the game both in 2006 and 2004....let's just hope the same is true this weekend...GO CRU!!!

[crualum75]

I would have to agree with Crualum39 about the factor of speed in  2004.  W&J looked fast compared to their opponents on film.  In fact the Oline was concentrating on footwork to overcome W&J's apparent team speed.  The team speed of the Cru definitely impacted the game on offense, defense, and special teams.  Plays on offense that would normally go for a nice gain went for TDs.  The defense stifled W&J's offense for the most part.  Their WR coming open is sometimes due to the Cru spending the majority of defense in a man or man free coverage.  I also think that the special teams speed difference was apparent whether covering a kickoff or returning a punt for a touchdown.  I say all of that to say that team speed was a factor then, and I believe it will be a factor again in this year's version of Cru vs W&J.  I am glad to see the match up in Belton this year.  I am upset I will not be there, but I plan on listening and being updated during the game.  All those going to the game travel safe and GO CRU!!!