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crudbdad

Quote from: umhb2001 on October 12, 2009, 11:22:16 PM
Quote from: jmnaseum on October 09, 2009, 01:07:15 PM
UMHB will have their hands full with LC and MC (especially in Clinton)  Better not look past the next two! 
           More upsets - TLU over SR
                                  McM over HPU
                                  HSU over ETBU (who who have put this as an upset)



So much for this upset!  And on the Choctaws website, you can listen to their coach talk about how scary and prolific the LC offense was.  NEXT!
One of the things that I looked at is the comparative stats that LC and MC gave up in wins over HSU. UMHB defense slowed down HSU and LC offense and if form holds should do the same against MC. Big question is can MC defense slow down CRU offense. Once again Coach Fred will have the CRU focused and not overlooking the Choctaws.

crudbdad

UMHB has a new QB, see todays article in Temple paper. After watching the preseason  scrimmages and the 1st 5 games this was a no-brainer to me. Bailey offers a speed diminsion that Noack doesn't have and gives us more diversity in the option game.
http://www.tdtnews.com/story/2009/10/13/61287

Toby Taff

Quote from: crudbdad on October 13, 2009, 01:32:42 PM
UMHB has a new QB, see todays article in Temple paper. After watching the preseason  scrimmages and the 1st 5 games this was a no-brainer to me. Bailey offers a speed diminsion that Noack doesn't have and gives us more diversity in the option game.
http://www.tdtnews.com/story/2009/10/13/61287

I read that article.  Good for the Cru, but sucks for Noack.  He brings  passing dimension  that I really like as a complement to the run.  I think his passing skills will be an asset in the playoffs.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Toby Taff on October 13, 2009, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: crudbdad on October 13, 2009, 01:32:42 PM
UMHB has a new QB, see todays article in Temple paper. After watching the preseason  scrimmages and the 1st 5 games this was a no-brainer to me. Bailey offers a speed diminsion that Noack doesn't have and gives us more diversity in the option game.
http://www.tdtnews.com/story/2009/10/13/61287

I read that article.  Good for the Cru, but sucks for Noack.  He brings  passing dimension  that I really like as a complement to the run.  I think his passing skills will be an asset in the playoffs.
You know Toby, we feel your pain.

I'm gonna start trying to find some D-2 program to offer Bailey a football scholarship, so Noack can get his job back in his senior year.   :D   ;)   ;D

crudbdad

Quote from: Toby Taff on October 13, 2009, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: crudbdad on October 13, 2009, 01:32:42 PM
UMHB has a new QB, see todays article in Temple paper. After watching the preseason  scrimmages and the 1st 5 games this was a no-brainer to me. Bailey offers a speed diminsion that Noack doesn't have and gives us more diversity in the option game.
http://www.tdtnews.com/story/2009/10/13/61287

I read that article.  Good for the Cru, but sucks for Noack.  He brings  passing dimension  that I really like as a complement to the run.  I think his passing skills will be an asset in the playoffs.
You refering to Noack or Bailey? I agree it sucks for Noack personally, but team comes 1st.

crudbdad

Ralph and Toby- You two seem more knowledgeable than me on rankings. I was looking at the strength of schedule just posted. Based on that is there a scenario that Wesley gets the 1 seed in the South over UMHB, assuming they both win out, based on their in-region record an OPP win %? Not sure how much the committee uses this as a weight factor. What do you think?

crufootball

You echo my fears crudbdad, although their record is not going to improve much considering they only have 2 more D3 games sot the best they could do is 6-0 and we could go 8-0 if we both win out.

I do fear someone else jumping ahead of us though considering our very low oppopent winning % and it will not get that much better considering we're only facing two more teams that currently have winning records (MC and HPU)

On the Bailey subject, it does stink for Noack but it could be gold for UMHB. Give Bailey 3 and a half years as our starting QB and who knows how far he can take us.

crudbdad

Quote from: crufootball on October 13, 2009, 02:20:10 PM
You echo my fears crudbdad, although their record is not going to improve much considering they only have 2 more D3 games sot the best they could do is 6-0 and we could go 8-0 if we both win out.

I do fear someone else jumping ahead of us though considering our very low oppopent winning % and it will not get that much better considering we're only facing two more teams that currently have winning records (MC and HPU)

On the Bailey subject, it does stink for Noack but it could be gold for UMHB. Give Bailey 3 and a half years as our starting QB and who knows how far he can take us.
I don't like putting the cart before the horse but it does make interesting conversation. Don't relish a trip back to Dover to play in Wesley's small stadium. No offense, but most Texas Middle Schools have bigger stands. There was an issue in '07 with their small stands and the overflow Wesley fans sitting on our side. Some of their fans complained about our boisterous students. They need to bring in some temporary bleachers to keep their fans together or move the game to Delaware State's stadium. Hopefully it won't matter, but the committee seems to do strange things each year. I'm hoping Bailey can take us to Salem this year ;)

crufootball

Interesting is one way to put it, scary is another when dealing with the NCAA in these terms.

And I must say your statement about the "boisterous students" made me laugh as I was one of them and I think that would have been the nicest thing they would have said about us   ;)

Toby Taff

I know the committee does its own thing, but I think if UMHB wins out it probably won't get jumped.  Of course getting the top seed doesn't matter as much if the 500 mile rule forces a 2 or 3 to play a 1 in the first round as it has before..

To clarify on Bailey, I think its the best move for the team, especially long term.  I just think it sucks for Noack who has put in the work and been successful.  I believe Coach when he says Noack will still get pt, and I think that's important because I think Noack's arm may be a difference maker at some point in the playoffs.  Not that Bailey's arm is bad (I think its pretty darn good), but Noack's throwing has impressed me more.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

hpudad

Quote from: proudmcmdad on October 12, 2009, 08:02:38 PM
HPUdad & HPU Back-up,
HPU has been in much the same shape (a little better) as McM since Adam King left.  Multiple coaches, not competitive with the MHB's and HSU's.
No shame to being the back up to King, in my opinion he was the best athlete I saw in the ASC.  Maybe not the very best athlete, but his speed and strong arm made him the most dangerous athlete in the league.
I think there are enough good football players in West Texas to allow HPU and McM to have competitive teams in the ASC if the schools can get a good coach that is willing to stay around and establish a program.
Concerned that McM coach will leave after next year (obviously a heck of a coach), just hope he has turned us around enough to let us change the culture of the football program.
Wish more of all the schools would post on the board, not just MHB and HSU fans.

proudmcmdad

Congrats on the win over HPU.  I knew when McMurry got their new coach that he would turn things around quickly.

The coaching staff at HPU only in their second season together and the Offense Coord is young and doesn't have a lot of coaching experience.  I think Coach Fanara will be around for a while.  He is good for HPU Football.  I'm thinking that it will be a couple of more seasons before HPU is back to what they were.  The improvement over last season can already be seen.  Last year HPU only had two seniors on the team.  You can look at their roster and see more than that now.

The big thing for McMurry will be trying to keep Coach Mumme at McMurry.  That could be tough.  He is a known name that has had success.

Best of luck to McMurry "Indians" the rest of the season.  Hopefully HPU can pull off some more wins this season.  
"Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. "
Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

Bill McCabe

Quote from: Toby Taff on October 13, 2009, 05:17:49 PM
I know the committee does its own thing, but I think if UMHB wins out it probably won't get jumped.  Of course getting the top seed doesn't matter as much if the 500 mile rule forces a 2 or 3 to play a 1 in the first round as it has before..

To clarify on Bailey, I think its the best move for the team, especially long term.  I just think it sucks for Noack who has put in the work and been successful.  I believe Coach when he says Noack will still get pt, and I think that's important because I think Noack's arm may be a difference maker at some point in the playoffs.  Not that Bailey's arm is bad (I think its pretty darn good), but Noack's throwing has impressed me more.

Toby,  from what I have seen, I think Bailey has a better arm, plus he can scramble when pressured.  His threat on the option is the best I've seen at UMHB.  This is not to knock Noack, because he is a very good QB.  It only takes one play and he is back in there.

Toby Taff

Quote from: Bill McCabe on October 13, 2009, 06:27:43 PM
Quote from: Toby Taff on October 13, 2009, 05:17:49 PM
I know the committee does its own thing, but I think if UMHB wins out it probably won't get jumped.  Of course getting the top seed doesn't matter as much if the 500 mile rule forces a 2 or 3 to play a 1 in the first round as it has before..

To clarify on Bailey, I think its the best move for the team, especially long term.  I just think it sucks for Noack who has put in the work and been successful.  I believe Coach when he says Noack will still get pt, and I think that's important because I think Noack's arm may be a difference maker at some point in the playoffs.  Not that Bailey's arm is bad (I think its pretty darn good), but Noack's throwing has impressed me more.

Toby,  from what I have seen, I think Bailey has a better arm, plus he can scramble when pressured.  His threat on the option is the best I've seen at UMHB.  This is not to knock Noack, because he is a very good QB.  It only takes one play and he is back in there.
I think Bailey has the stronger arm, but for me Noack's experience wins out in the passing game.  Bailey is still a freshman and ALL freshman make freshman mistakes, especially if one is having to come from behind.  One of those "freshman" mistakes could be the difference between stacking the pads and playing the next week.  Now with the experience he gains over the next weeks, maybe that changes, and I certainly think that 3 more seasons with Bailey could be very nice for the Cru.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

umhb2001

Quote from: Toby Taff on October 13, 2009, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: Bill McCabe on October 13, 2009, 06:27:43 PM
Quote from: Toby Taff on October 13, 2009, 05:17:49 PM
I know the committee does its own thing, but I think if UMHB wins out it probably won't get jumped.  Of course getting the top seed doesn't matter as much if the 500 mile rule forces a 2 or 3 to play a 1 in the first round as it has before..

To clarify on Bailey, I think its the best move for the team, especially long term.  I just think it sucks for Noack who has put in the work and been successful.  I believe Coach when he says Noack will still get pt, and I think that's important because I think Noack's arm may be a difference maker at some point in the playoffs.  Not that Bailey's arm is bad (I think its pretty darn good), but Noack's throwing has impressed me more.

Toby,  from what I have seen, I think Bailey has a better arm, plus he can scramble when pressured.  His threat on the option is the best I've seen at UMHB.  This is not to knock Noack, because he is a very good QB.  It only takes one play and he is back in there.
I think Bailey has the stronger arm, but for me Noack's experience wins out in the passing game.  Bailey is still a freshman and ALL freshman make freshman mistakes, especially if one is having to come from behind.  One of those "freshman" mistakes could be the difference between stacking the pads and playing the next week.  Now with the experience he gains over the next weeks, maybe that changes, and I certainly think that 3 more seasons with Bailey could be very nice for the Cru.

This reminds me of what I heard said about Parcells last night during the Miami win.  When asked what kind of QB he likes, Parcells said  something to the affect of " a college graduate and a three year starter." He wants someone with experience and that is how I feel with Noack.  I trust the experience.






Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

Bill McCabe

Remember when UMHB went to the Stagg Bowl it was a freshman at QB.  Beat the #1 team in the country with 2 TDs in the 4th quarter.  Not sure we would have been in Salem without that freshman QB!   ;)