FB: American Southwest Conference

[Toby Taff]

http://www.tdtnews.com/story/2011/03/27/73355

an article worth reading about the stadium. It's always nice for a school to have a friend like Drayton McLane, Jr.

[etbu27]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

[tigerkat]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

well, that does it right there.....the great ETBU27 has spoken.....HS team robbed....give me a break.....MHB should and will be proud of the stadium.....

Now, im thinking if all etbu players are gutless like etbu27, we shoulda gone to MHB...etbu27, you have messaged me and I told everyone who I am...so why do you not message me who you are.......

[crufootball]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

You may be right ETBU27, those stadium are close but in my opinion I never understood wanting to play in some of those at least for the lower rounds. I know there is a thril of playing at a big time stadium but then they are maybe 10% full.

[Ron Boerger]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

[tigerkat]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

CRUFB and Ron Burgandy make to valid and strong points! 

[tigerkat]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

CRUFB and Ron Burgandy make two valid and strong points! 

[Ralph Turner]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

And a stadium that can hold its own in D2... 

[Toby Taff]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

As is having that stadium on a campus only an hours drive from Austin and within 3 hours of Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio.

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

And a stadium that can hold its own in D2... 

Makes you wonder doesn't it Ralph?

[Ralph Turner]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

As is having that stadium on a campus only an hours drive from Austin and within 3 hours of Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio.

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

And a stadium that can hold its own in D2... 

Makes you wonder doesn't it Ralph?

If the numbers work for McMurry, then I surely know that they will work for UMHB.  They might also work for about 5-6 other ASC (private) schools, too.  UTTyler is having a huge budget challenge; I don't know what the numbers are at UT-Dallas or Sul Ross State.  I think that Sully does better at D-III.  They are one of the least expensive 4-year schools in the country, a great value for Texas tax payers, too!

[crufootball]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

As is having that stadium on a campus only an hours drive from Austin and within 3 hours of Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio.

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

And a stadium that can hold its own in D2... 

Makes you wonder doesn't it Ralph?

If the numbers work for McMurry, then I surely know that they will work for UMHB.  They might also work for about 5-6 other ASC (private) schools, too.  UTTyler is having a huge budget challenge; I don't know what the numbers are at UT-Dallas or Sul Ross State.  I think that Sully does better at D-III.  They are one of the least expensive 4-year schools in the country, a great value for Texas tax payers, too!

I know there isnt a simple answer but what financial benefit is there in going to D2?

[btyndall]

I heard Mcmurry had at least 10k fans at their stadium, or was it 10,000 fans total for the year. Only kidding, but what are they going to do when they enter DII?

[Ralph Turner]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

As is having that stadium on a campus only an hours drive from Austin and within 3 hours of Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio.

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

And a stadium that can hold its own in D2... 

Makes you wonder doesn't it Ralph?

If the numbers work for McMurry, then I surely know that they will work for UMHB.  They might also work for about 5-6 other ASC (private) schools, too.  UTTyler is having a huge budget challenge; I don't know what the numbers are at UT-Dallas or Sul Ross State.  I think that Sully does better at D-III.  They are one of the least expensive 4-year schools in the country, a great value for Texas tax payers, too!

I know there isnt a simple answer but what financial benefit is there in going to D2?

There is a very detalied analysis that is available from the NCAA about the way that one uses the partial scholarship model in D-II.  There are systematic advantages for D-II schools that are not available in D-III that are discussed in the information. 

The decision to move to D-II came from the "academic" forces in the McMurry brain trust (key individuals with significant experience and expertise from the Administration and Board of Trustees) and not the coaches.  I will encourage serious discussion with those key people at McMurry.  Your president will know to whom your school should speak.   

[tigerkat]

McBlurrys have the second best collegiant staff Abilene.....and the coolest mascot name......GOOD LUCK in your D2 Quest......

[roocru]

I mean a 10k stadium in the heart of Texas. I think HS teams would feel robbed to play there with Waco, Austin, CS San Marcos and the likes all being within a stones throw. No offense to MHB or the new stadium but I think any HS student would be more excited about a game at Kyle Field or Darryl K Royal rather than an Incredibly nice D3 stadium.

The great majority of HS kids going the D3 route are going to have exactly 0 chance to play in a D1 stadium.  Having a stadium that's substantially better than the majority of your D3 peers IS a recruiting advantage, make no mistake about it. 

CRUFB and Ron Burgandy make to valid and strong points! 

As a former high school athletic director who was responsible for arranging for my high school stadiums to be used as playoff venues,  I feel sure that classes 1A, 2A and 3A would use the new facility in a heartbeat assuming the rental costs were not exorbitant. The voice of experience tells me that these smaller school athletes would still be mighty impressed compared to some of the stadiums they normally play in. 

Some 4A schools could also use it early.  The deciding factor for larger schools will be the size of the visitor stands.  The major venues (D1 and professional stadiums) are prohibitively priced for all but the very successful 5A and large 4A schools until you get to the last two rounds where you will draw heavily from the local populace as well.  What many schools do is agree to play double- or tripleheaders to help defray these costs and then you run the risk of playing games that start either very early (10am) or very late which makes it hard for many fans to get home after the game.  The major high school stadiums are mixed in their pricing schedules as some are much more costly than others. 

I believe if UMHB wanted to use the stadium as a recruiting tool, they would keep their rental fees low enough to attract the smaller divisions and therefore encourage its use by the smaller division schools.  There are a lot of fine football players in these lower divisions, just not as many on a single team.