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umhb2001

Quote from: Toby Taff on September 20, 2014, 11:21:26 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on September 20, 2014, 10:57:39 PM
I would not be surprised if we dropped in the polls.
we probably will. I wasn't too upset about the points. They were only rushing the front four most of the second half and it looked like they were having a tough time getting pressure with 8 blocking 4 on a wet field. That opened up the passing game and I think the youngins in the defensive backfield did OK most of the time. That last touchdown was a prevent TD everyone back and just the front four to stop the run. UWL took advantage and never lost heart.  The most fun I had was listening to the lacrosse broadcasters talking about others using the tape from the game because Lacrosse wasn't getting blown out.

Yeah, the CB's did fine. I couldn't really see the final TD for them, so analyzing it was beyond me. One worrisome aspect is the kickoff team. Got to contain and keep those guys back. Another familiar squad next week should make our guys work hard.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

Toby Taff

Quote from: umhb2001 on September 21, 2014, 12:02:39 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on September 20, 2014, 11:21:26 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on September 20, 2014, 10:57:39 PM
I would not be surprised if we dropped in the polls.
we probably will. I wasn't too upset about the points. They were only rushing the front four most of the second half and it looked like they were having a tough time getting pressure with 8 blocking 4 on a wet field. That opened up the passing game and I think the youngins in the defensive backfield did OK most of the time. That last touchdown was a prevent TD everyone back and just the front four to stop the run. UWL took advantage and never lost heart.  The most fun I had was listening to the lacrosse broadcasters talking about others using the tape from the game because Lacrosse wasn't getting blown out.
Unfortunately I have to work. >:( I don't think I'd want to watch film tomorrow if I was on the kickoff team.
Yeah, the CB's did fine. I couldn't really see the final TD for them, so analyzing it was beyond me. One worrisome aspect is the kickoff team. Got to contain and keep those guys back. Another familiar squad next week should make our guys work hard.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Toby Taff

Quote from: Toby Taff on September 21, 2014, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: umhb2001 on September 21, 2014, 12:02:39 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on September 20, 2014, 11:21:26 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on September 20, 2014, 10:57:39 PM
I would not be surprised if we dropped in the polls.
we probably will. I wasn't too upset about the points. They were only rushing the front four most of the second half and it looked like they were having a tough time getting pressure with 8 blocking 4 on a wet field. That opened up the passing game and I think the youngins in the defensive backfield did OK most of the time. That last touchdown was a prevent TD everyone back and just the front four to stop the run. UWL took advantage and never lost heart.  The most fun I had was listening to the lacrosse broadcasters talking about others using the tape from the game because Lacrosse wasn't getting blown out.
Unfortunately I have to work. >:( I don't think I'd want to watch film tomorrow if I was on the kickoff team.
Yeah, the CB's did fine. I couldn't really see the final TD for them, so analyzing it was beyond me. One worrisome aspect is the kickoff team. Got to contain and keep those guys back. Another familiar squad next week should make our guys work hard.

This note from the temple paper may give some insight to the second half passing success of Lacrosse.

QuoteUMHB senior defensive back Eric Allen did not play in the second half after bruising his heel.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Kelly Boggs

It sounded like the JV made the trip to Wisconsin. Let's look on the bright side, an ugly win is still a win, which I will take over a loss every time. Perhaps last night's performance will serve as a wake up call and UMHB will start playing to its potential on both sides of the ball.

LC vs TLU was entertaining but ended in a strange way. Following is the report from The Town Talk, Alexandria's daily newspaper: http://www.thetowntalk.com/story/sports/college/lc/2014/09/20/louisiana-college-loses-game-walk-penalty/15994499/

UP with the PURPLE!
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Kelly Boggs

Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?
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DFWCrufan

Yeah Toby I was watching the LaCrosse feed as well, saying how a loss was a win and the fact that they didn't get blown out was a win, so losing by 19 is not enough, gotta lose by 50?...LaCrosse rose to the occasion and good for them, their kick return had some serious wheels and they simply stayed in the game. I wouldn't put them down, good for the guys.  But lets consider this the LaCrosse team had a double and triple reverse scored on them by St. Thomas, this team last night was not the same team I saw play St. Thomas. The Cru simply ran straight forward, mostly ground pounding plays, giving a lot of experience to our newer guys. Simply put the Cru Came they played and won, I don't think I heard anyone on the staff predict a blowout.
Maybe we are so used to a far more flashy team and this particular team is going to be different, not as flashy and just get the job done. Yeah some will analyse every aspect but in the end only two things eventually matter.. being in the W column and no injuries.
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DFWCrufan

Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?

Only if the polls are a beauty contest, if a team lower in the rank moves because they blow out a lesser team and a upper ranked team moves because it wasn't a pretty win, but a win none the less then is it a poll or a beauty contest?
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DFWCrufan

Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:43:39 AM
It sounded like the JV made the trip to Wisconsin. Let's look on the bright side, an ugly win is still a win, which I will take over a loss every time. Perhaps last night's performance will serve as a wake up call and UMHB will start playing to its potential on both sides of the ball.

LC vs TLU was entertaining but ended in a strange way. Following is the report from The Town Talk, Alexandria's daily newspaper: http://www.thetowntalk.com/story/sports/college/lc/2014/09/20/louisiana-college-loses-game-walk-penalty/15994499/

UP with the PURPLE!

Yeah Huh...I was watching that game as well, what was up with that end? I was pulling for LC
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wesleydad

Quote from: Morrgen on September 21, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?

Only if the polls are a beauty contest, if a team lower in the rank moves because they blow out a lesser team and a upper ranked team moves because it wasn't a pretty win, but a win none the less then is it a poll or a beauty contest?

I think it all depends on how you had the team in question compared to the teams near them in the poll.  If you had them clearly better than the next team then no, but if you thought the teams were very close and after a poor game by the higher ranked team then yes you could flip them.  In the end it is only a poll, at least we get to see it played out on the field.

Toby Taff

Quote from: wesleydad on September 21, 2014, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: Morrgen on September 21, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?

Only if the polls are a beauty contest, if a team lower in the rank moves because they blow out a lesser team and a upper ranked team moves because it wasn't a pretty win, but a win none the less then is it a poll or a beauty contest?

I think it all depends on how you had the team in question compared to the teams near them in the poll.  If you had them clearly better than the next team then no, but if you thought the teams were very close and after a poor game by the higher ranked team then yes you could flip them.  In the end it is only a poll, at least we get to see it played out on the field.
of interest is that linfield dominated redlands to a final score of 36-3. Redlands had 156 yds of total offense. Like results against a common opponent. It may or may not affect the Cru personally I think anywhere in the top 5 is appropriate at this point in the year.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

MasterJedi

Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?

UWW lost a first place vote last week for pitching a second half shutout and beating Franklin 42-13 after being up 14-13 at the half so anything is possible.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Morrgen on September 21, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?

Only if the polls are a beauty contest, if a team lower in the rank moves because they blow out a lesser team and a upper ranked team moves because it wasn't a pretty win, but a win none the less then is it a poll or a beauty contest?

Not sure what you mean by beauty contest -- I mean, all polls are, right? Because if you win ugly often enough, someday you are probably going to lose. Will UMHB drop this week from this game? No, but other teams that have won ugly have dropped, even this season if you take a look at the first couple of polls.
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bleedpurple

Quote from: MasterJedi on September 21, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?

UWW lost a first place vote last week for pitching a second half shutout and beating Franklin 42-13 after being up 14-13 at the half so anything is possible.

My guess is that vote will stay with UMHB, at least for awhile.  Poll voters don't usually like to be seen as fickle.

umhb2001

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 21, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: MasterJedi on September 21, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?

UWW lost a first place vote last week for pitching a second half shutout and beating Franklin 42-13 after being up 14-13 at the half so anything is possible.

My guess is that vote will stay with UMHB, at least for awhile.  Poll voters don't usually like to be seen as fickle.

Great discussion! In my opinion, I feel that a team that wins and is ahead do a similar, closely ranked team should stay ahead no matter the outcome. I knew WLac would not be the same team who faced St. Thomas, nor would UMHB be the same on the road, away from their home support.

Eric Allen being out made a difference but shouldn't have made that big a difference. At least we gave some underclassman some play against a stout opponent, and we faced a little adversity and found a way to get it done. All in all, a positive.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

MasterJedi

Quote from: umhb2001 on September 21, 2014, 02:55:06 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on September 21, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: MasterJedi on September 21, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
Quote from: Kelly Boggs on September 21, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
Question: Should a team, any team, drop in the polls after one sub-par performance?

UWW lost a first place vote last week for pitching a second half shutout and beating Franklin 42-13 after being up 14-13 at the half so anything is possible.

My guess is that vote will stay with UMHB, at least for awhile.  Poll voters don't usually like to be seen as fickle.

Great discussion! In my opinion, I feel that a team that wins and is ahead do a similar, closely ranked team should stay ahead no matter the outcome. I knew WLac would not be the same team who faced St. Thomas, nor would UMHB be the same on the road, away from their home support.

Eric Allen being out made a difference but shouldn't have made that big a difference. At least we gave some underclassman some play against a stout opponent, and we faced a little adversity and found a way to get it done. All in all, a positive.

If UMHB loses that vote it MAY be in two weeks, depending how UWW does against UWL. Same opponents and all.