FB: American Southwest Conference

[wally_wabash]

From today's temple daily telegram:

Fredenburg said. "But I really want it to be the quarterback, and I haven't necessarily seen that yet.

"That's just the way it is. It comes with being the quarterback. You have to be the leader of that offense. You have to be able to wear that cloak, whether you want to or not. That's something we're working on. . .

perhaps a new voice of leadership on offense is just what the Crusaders need to start working toward their peak.

If that doesn't do it, Fredenburg is ready to add some new wrinkles.

"I want to shake things up a little bit. That's where I'm at right now," he said. "I want to challenge our guys. Now, I'm not going to be stupid. But we need to give guys who deserve it the opportunity to touch the ball more. We need to see who can do certain things. I just want to shake things up a little bit."

So, I guess the question isn't settled with Coach Fred. We'll see what happens Saturday.

Sounds like a pretty rough offensive year for the team that *checks notes* leads the division in scoring. 

[Toby Taff]

From today's temple daily telegram:

Fredenburg said. "But I really want it to be the quarterback, and I haven't necessarily seen that yet.

"That's just the way it is. It comes with being the quarterback. You have to be the leader of that offense. You have to be able to wear that cloak, whether you want to or not. That's something we're working on. . .

perhaps a new voice of leadership on offense is just what the Crusaders need to start working toward their peak.

If that doesn't do it, Fredenburg is ready to add some new wrinkles.

"I want to shake things up a little bit. That's where I'm at right now," he said. "I want to challenge our guys. Now, I'm not going to be stupid. But we need to give guys who deserve it the opportunity to touch the ball more. We need to see who can do certain things. I just want to shake things up a little bit."

So, I guess the question isn't settled with Coach Fred. We'll see what happens Saturday.

Sounds like a pretty rough offensive year for the team that *checks notes* leads the division in scoring.

I know it sounds ridiculous. I have to remind myself sometimes when it's only 28-0 at the half, that 28-0 is good. my mind on the other hand is all, "wow, the offense is off today." "Why cant the QB make that throw?" "AHHHH!!! IT'S CRASHING IN AROUND US!!!!" 

[txtiger1]

HSU will beat TLU by ~30 points if they play an average game.

Obviously I'm biased, but ETBU should have beat TLU by a couple scores if literally 1 play didn't happen. In the 4th qtr with ~6 min left ETBU was up 21-14 and had driven the ball just past the 50. One of our runners unfortunately tried to do too much on a sweep and ended up running backwards 20 yds and then losing a fumble (unforced) on our own ~25. That killed us and we muffed the kickoff return (still got possession on the 5-10yd line) and then fumbled the snap on the following punt to basically give TLU the ball back at the ETBU 40 with 1 min left. Obviously, thats on us but still feel like we played good enough to win comfortably for 3 1/2 qtrs.

HSU and TLU, from watching both games, are not on the same level.

Just wanted to give you credit for this prediction, I would have never ever thought it could be true.  TLU is a good team and has consistently given the Cowboys trouble over the past several years.  A big difference in the game was our coaches "finding a way" to get our speed on the field on offense.  The addition of Milsap and Evans at receiver and continuing to utilize Hammonds at RB was one of the major factors that contributed to the win, that and the defense played lights out and our special teams were on point.  It was the most complete game we have played this year which is very exciting going forward. 
On to Southwestern for us (another team that has shown to play us tough).

appreciate it. Yeah it just seemed from watching the two games against ETBU there was a clear cut difference. HSU could run the ball as much as they wanted against us, and although I thought we should have been able to put a lot of points up (our TERRIBLE game plan and lack of adjustments on the offensive end made sure we didn't lol) we were outmatched up front severely on both sides. And TLU, while they are definitely similar to us talent-wise on most positions, I thought we were a better team that made horrible mistakes at the end to give it away.

good luck to you guys

[txtiger1]

From today's temple daily telegram:

Fredenburg said. "But I really want it to be the quarterback, and I haven't necessarily seen that yet.

"That's just the way it is. It comes with being the quarterback. You have to be the leader of that offense. You have to be able to wear that cloak, whether you want to or not. That's something we're working on. . .

perhaps a new voice of leadership on offense is just what the Crusaders need to start working toward their peak.

If that doesn't do it, Fredenburg is ready to add some new wrinkles.

"I want to shake things up a little bit. That's where I'm at right now," he said. "I want to challenge our guys. Now, I'm not going to be stupid. But we need to give guys who deserve it the opportunity to touch the ball more. We need to see who can do certain things. I just want to shake things up a little bit."

So, I guess the question isn't settled with Coach Fred. We'll see what happens Saturday.

Sounds like a pretty rough offensive year for the team that *checks notes* leads the division in scoring.

I know it sounds ridiculous. I have to remind myself sometimes when it's only 28-0 at the half, that 28-0 is good. my mind on the other hand is all, "wow, the offense is off today." "Why cant the QB make that throw?" "AHHHH!!! IT'S CRASHING IN AROUND US!!!!" 

I understand you, and thats just the nature of D3 for you. Idk how it is around the nation, but in the ASC there are 3-4 teams where you just want to win, and the rest you want to look perfect against. The talent gap between UMHB and the rest of the conference makes that even more extreme for ya'll.

[Toby Taff]

UMHB coach's show just aired and coach fred threw hal mumme under the bus as snicely as he could. Basically said Belhaven and McMurry have no D because mumme recruited skill positions and then left the cupboard bare. He also reiterated that he felt like the offensive performance was off and that he was disappointed with some of the qb play.. what is he not disappointed with? Defense, special teams, kicking game improvement, blocking, running game...

[umhb2001]

I wonder how much of his dislikes are public opinion and how many are actual clubhouse concerns?

[Ron Boerger]

Mumme left McM in 2012.   Not sure how the current situation relates to a coach who's been gone six years, not to mention the whole D3 -> D2 -> D3 transitions.

UMHB defeated Sul Ross by 61, Southwestern by 70, HPU by 55 ... making a point of calling out Mumme for alleged transgressions at Belhaven (49) is uncalled for.   Maybe it's because Belhaven claims (on their web site) that "[d]espite a tough effort by the Blazers, they held the Cru to season lows in just about every category in the books" ... apparently total points isn't in the books 

[Toby Taff]

Mumme left McM in 2012.   Not sure how the current situation relates to a coach who's been gone six years, not to mention the whole D3 -> D2 -> D3 transitions.

UMHB defeated Sul Ross by 61, Southwestern by 70, HPU by 55 ... making a point of calling out Mumme for alleged transgressions at Belhaven (49) is uncalled for.   Maybe it's because Belhaven claims (on their web site) that "[d]espite a tough effort by the Blazers, they held the Cru to season lows in just about every category in the books" ... apparently total points isn't in the books 

It was a low key call out, but basically he said that because of the offensive scheme he ran, he didn't recruit defense as heavily. He was more concerned with getting the ball back and running offense than stopping the other team for scoring. That led to heavily recruiting skill positions and left the new coaches behind the eight ball as far as team D went. I think it was good analysis, but definitely low key shade. Also, it's hard to hit those season averages when you start with a short field. 

[HSUDAD]

Just curious as to the Cru thoughts on Southwestern....Other than we should take care of them!
What are their strengths, weaknesses?

[wally_wabash]

Seems weird that Coach Fredenburg has time to wax philosophical about Hal Mumme's legacy at rival schools when he's got a full fledged QB crisis on his hands.  Priorities, amirite? 

[QB Jock Itch]

Crazy to think that the starting QB play has been trash when UMHB has the #1 scoring offense in the country. One week on the coaches show, Coach complained about not running enough after Hammack had 4 TDs and 300+ yrds, then he throws for 111 and TD with just 5 incompletions and he's not getting it to the play makers enough. Other than the HPU game the completion% has been very good. Sounds like if Hammack wants to retain the starting job he's has to win it again. SMH. Oh well competition is good. Go CRU!!

[ITH radio]

I think it boils down to scheme and the execution of the same. Sure UMHB is putting up points against inferior competition, but can they do it against defenses like Mount, BP and others they'll run into in December?

Ultimately I think if you're going to commit to RPO you need a QB who's comfortable running that system. I don't believe from the games I've seen that it seems like Jase is as comfortable running that style of offense.

Just my two cents.

[Frank Rossi]

From today's temple daily telegram:

Fredenburg said. "But I really want it to be the quarterback, and I haven't necessarily seen that yet.

"That's just the way it is. It comes with being the quarterback. You have to be the leader of that offense. You have to be able to wear that cloak, whether you want to or not. That's something we're working on. . .

perhaps a new voice of leadership on offense is just what the Crusaders need to start working toward their peak.

If that doesn't do it, Fredenburg is ready to add some new wrinkles.

"I want to shake things up a little bit. That's where I'm at right now," he said. "I want to challenge our guys. Now, I'm not going to be stupid. But we need to give guys who deserve it the opportunity to touch the ball more. We need to see who can do certain things. I just want to shake things up a little bit."

So, I guess the question isn't settled with Coach Fred. We'll see what happens Saturday.

Sounds like a pretty rough offensive year for the team that *checks notes* leads the division in scoring.

Maybe he became really concerned when he lost my #1 vote.

[And maybe pigs will fly out of strange orifices any minute now.]

[wally_wabash]

I think it boils down to scheme and the execution of the same. Sure UMHB is putting up points against inferior competition, but can they do it against defenses like Mount, BP and others they'll run into in December?

Ultimately I think if you're going to commit to RPO you need a QB who's comfortable running that system. I don't believe from the games I've seen Jase is as comfortable running that style of offense. Just my two cents.

Why force RPO onto mega talented guys that do everything else better?  But I think you're tugging on the loose sweater thread here and that is when the chips move in to the center of the table, UMHB wants to take the air out of the ball, control the clock, and win with defense.  That's what I saw last year in Salem (and in the couple of rounds prior to Salem).  That was the plan in the 2016 Stagg Bowl.  This team, I think, can afford to be much more aggressive with their offense.  But I'd bet a bottle of Big Red that we see a TON of DeNerian Thomas in the tournament because I think that's the comfort zone for this staff. 

[Frank Rossi]

I think it boils down to scheme and the execution of the same. Sure UMHB is putting up points against inferior competition, but can they do it against defenses like Mount, BP and others they'll run into in December?

Ultimately I think if you're going to commit to RPO you need a QB who's comfortable running that system. I don't believe from the games I've seen Jase is as comfortable running that style of offense. Just my two cents.

Why force RPO onto mega talented guys that do everything else better?  But I think you're tugging on the loose sweater thread here and that is when the chips move in to the center of the table, UMHB wants to take the air out of the ball, control the clock, and win with defense.  That's what I saw last year in Salem (and in the couple of rounds prior to Salem).  That was the plan in the 2016 Stagg Bowl.  This team, I think, can afford to be much more aggressive with their offense.  But I'd bet a bottle of Big Red that we see a TON of DeNerian Thomas in the tournament because I think that's the comfort zone for this staff.

Doesn't his style become more akin to having Carl Robinson under center?  And didn't that show vulnerabilities offensively for UMHB in the playoffs?  As in, more sacks due to indecisiveness/predictability and underutilization of your speedy/talented receivers?  Look, if Brockport could master the RPO with Germinerio, and if you have a QB on your roster that can excel with the RPO with a pass-first mentality with the receivers they have, then I think you use that quarterback and that system.  RPO doesn't mean you lack talent -- it means you have a QB that has excessive talent when it's used at higher levels.