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Coolrey

Quote from: HScoach on November 25, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
The Berry game was probably a good game for the Cru in terms of the opportunity to play other players and stay relatively healthy going into what is likely to be a gauntlet of tight games...(hopefully, games).  I do think that Hardin-Simmons would have had a great chance to emerge from the other side had the bracket been structured that way.  HSU was head and shoulders above Berry and I think was at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks. But that's not even worth arguing.  It goes without saying that the Cru will need to play disciplined, fundamental football to keep moving forward.  Johnnies will present a very strong challenge.  This could be a very physical game.

If you think HSU is on the same level as UWW, then you shouldn't be operating heavy equipment.

Well...HSU was quite competitive with UMHB last week.  It wasn't, by any means, a blow out.  And I think UMHB is every bit the team UWW is. 

bleedpurple

Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 25, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
The Berry game was probably a good game for the Cru in terms of the opportunity to play other players and stay relatively healthy going into what is likely to be a gauntlet of tight games...(hopefully, games).  I do think that Hardin-Simmons would have had a great chance to emerge from the other side had the bracket been structured that way.  HSU was head and shoulders above Berry and I think was at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks. But that's not even worth arguing.  It goes without saying that the Cru will need to play disciplined, fundamental football to keep moving forward.  Johnnies will present a very strong challenge.  This could be a very physical game.

If you think HSU is on the same level as UWW, then you shouldn't be operating heavy equipment.

Well...HSU was quite competitive with UMHB last week.  It wasn't, by any means, a blow out.  And I think UMHB is every bit the team UWW is.

Coolrey, that sounds like a slippery back-pedal.  The known results are that HSU is 3 to 4 TD's short of UMHB.  And your statement was that HSU is "at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks".  I believe your statement that HSU is "at least as good" as UW-W is either naive or wishful thinking.   I think UMHB/UW-W will be a great game if it happens.

 

Coolrey

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 25, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 25, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
The Berry game was probably a good game for the Cru in terms of the opportunity to play other players and stay relatively healthy going into what is likely to be a gauntlet of tight games...(hopefully, games).  I do think that Hardin-Simmons would have had a great chance to emerge from the other side had the bracket been structured that way.  HSU was head and shoulders above Berry and I think was at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks. But that's not even worth arguing.  It goes without saying that the Cru will need to play disciplined, fundamental football to keep moving forward.  Johnnies will present a very strong challenge.  This could be a very physical game.


If you think HSU is on the same level as UWW, then you shouldn't be operating heavy equipment.

Well...HSU was quite competitive with UMHB last week.  It wasn't, by any means, a blow out.  And I think UMHB is every bit the team UWW is.

Coolrey, that sounds like a slippery back-pedal.  The known results are that HSU is 3 to 4 TD's short of UMHB.  And your statement was that HSU is "at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks".  I believe your statement that HSU is "at least as good" as UW-W is either naive or wishful thinking.   I think UMHB/UW-W will be a great game if it happens.

I will concur that I may have overstated a bit.  However, I think HSU is a solid team and could very well be competitive with UWW and St. John's if they had the opportunity.  UMHB, MU and UWW and maybe even St. John's are in a league of their own for sure.  But I wouldn't be surprised if HSU was able to hang w/ St. John's and UWW.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2018, 12:55:17 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2018, 09:00:02 AM
My over-under for the Berry UMHB game.

Premise: Head-to-head results will give us a good estimation of how we should seat Berry and HSU in the Regional Rankings.  Who was the better team?

Premise: Home field advantage (HFA) for a bus trip of about 200 miles to a familiar venue is 3 points. (HSU to UMHB ~185 miles)

Premise: HFA for a plane trip in D-3 is 6 points.

UMHB 27 HSU 6  = 21 points minus 3 points for HFA = 18 points (~2.5 TD's) on a neutral site.

The over/under for Berry is 18 points + 6 points for HFA = 24 (~3.5 TD's)
Average UMHB margin of victory is 29.66 points by the experts.

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2018/11/23/quick-hits-our-crew-predicts-the-second-round/
The HSU/Berry/SJU transitive over/under for SJU to fly to Belton is 24 points.

QB Jock Itch

The matchup is set, st johns at UMHB at 12, The CRUthedral will definitely be rocking. I know the johnnie's have a good offense but don't believe they've faced a Defense like the one they will on Saturday. Our offense looked good last game doing what they needed to do. The early weather report says low 70's.

As for the talking from some of the johnnie's, I get it they haven't been this deep in the playoffs for awhile so they're excited. But it being a long week c'mon man you don't even believe that. Hope y'all have a good flight the BBQ will be ready when y'all get here.

bleedpurple

Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 02:52:25 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 25, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 25, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
The Berry game was probably a good game for the Cru in terms of the opportunity to play other players and stay relatively healthy going into what is likely to be a gauntlet of tight games...(hopefully, games).  I do think that Hardin-Simmons would have had a great chance to emerge from the other side had the bracket been structured that way.  HSU was head and shoulders above Berry and I think was at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks. But that's not even worth arguing.  It goes without saying that the Cru will need to play disciplined, fundamental football to keep moving forward.  Johnnies will present a very strong challenge.  This could be a very physical game.


If you think HSU is on the same level as UWW, then you shouldn't be operating heavy equipment.

Well...HSU was quite competitive with UMHB last week.  It wasn't, by any means, a blow out.  And I think UMHB is every bit the team UWW is.

Coolrey, that sounds like a slippery back-pedal.  The known results are that HSU is 3 to 4 TD's short of UMHB.  And your statement was that HSU is "at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks".  I believe your statement that HSU is "at least as good" as UW-W is either naive or wishful thinking.   I think UMHB/UW-W will be a great game if it happens.

I will concur that I may have overstated a bit.  However, I think HSU is a solid team and could very well be competitive with UWW and St. John's if they had the opportunity.  UMHB, MU and UWW and maybe even St. John's are in a league of their own for sure.  But I wouldn't be surprised if HSU was able to hang w/ St. John's and UWW.

Thanks for the clarification. In the meantime, two great quarterfinals in the west.  One thing I will say about HSU, they may rank just a little behind the four remaining teams in the South/West bracket, but I'll bet you they would be the best team Mount Union would have to face if they were a remaining team on the other side of the bracket!

Ralph Turner

The South/West Region is not as complete a description of the real strength/dominance of D-3 football as I would like.

I think that the best commonly-known descriptor of the dividing line might be the line designating the Central  and Eastern Time Zones.

That gives us the ASC, the CCIW, the MIAC, the NWC, and the WIAC versus everyone else.

OzJohnnie

Quote from: QB Jock Itch on November 25, 2018, 03:36:56 PM
The matchup is set, st johns at UMHB at 12, The CRUthedral will definitely be rocking. I know the johnnie's CRU have a good offense defense but don't believe they've faced a Defense offense like the one they will on Saturday. Our offense defense looked good last game doing what they needed to do. The early weather report says low 70's.

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Coolrey

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 25, 2018, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 02:52:25 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 25, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 25, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
The Berry game was probably a good game for the Cru in terms of the opportunity to play other players and stay relatively healthy going into what is likely to be a gauntlet of tight games...(hopefully, games).  I do think that Hardin-Simmons would have had a great chance to emerge from the other side had the bracket been structured that way.  HSU was head and shoulders above Berry and I think was at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks. But that's not even worth arguing.  It goes without saying that the Cru will need to play disciplined, fundamental football to keep moving forward.  Johnnies will present a very strong challenge.  This could be a very physical game.


If you think HSU is on the same level as UWW, then you shouldn't be operating heavy equipment.

Well...HSU was quite competitive with UMHB last week.  It wasn't, by any means, a blow out.  And I think UMHB is every bit the team UWW is.

Coolrey, that sounds like a slippery back-pedal.  The known results are that HSU is 3 to 4 TD's short of UMHB.  And your statement was that HSU is "at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks".  I believe your statement that HSU is "at least as good" as UW-W is either naive or wishful thinking.   I think UMHB/UW-W will be a great game if it happens.

I will concur that I may have overstated a bit.  However, I think HSU is a solid team and could very well be competitive with UWW and St. John's if they had the opportunity.  UMHB, MU and UWW and maybe even St. John's are in a league of their own for sure.  But I wouldn't be surprised if HSU was able to hang w/ St. John's and UWW.

Thanks for the clarification. In the meantime, two great quarterfinals in the west.  One thing I will say about HSU, they may rank just a little behind the four remaining teams in the South/West bracket, but I'll bet you they would be the best team Mount Union would have to face if they were a remaining team on the other side of the bracket!
That was, in a sense, the point I was actually trying to make earlier.  I think you are spot on in that if HSU would have been placed on the other side, they would have a very good chance of meeting up w/ MU in the national semi's.

D O.C.

Oh boy! It's slings and arrows time!
My money is the Collegeville Crew can get the polite Come On Down Cru a tad riled up this week.

Toby Taff

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 25, 2018, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 02:52:25 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 25, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 25, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
Quote from: Coolrey on November 25, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
The Berry game was probably a good game for the Cru in terms of the opportunity to play other players and stay relatively healthy going into what is likely to be a gauntlet of tight games...(hopefully, games).  I do think that Hardin-Simmons would have had a great chance to emerge from the other side had the bracket been structured that way.  HSU was head and shoulders above Berry and I think was at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks. But that's not even worth arguing.  It goes without saying that the Cru will need to play disciplined, fundamental football to keep moving forward.  Johnnies will present a very strong challenge.  This could be a very physical game.


If you think HSU is on the same level as UWW, then you shouldn't be operating heavy equipment.

Well...HSU was quite competitive with UMHB last week.  It wasn't, by any means, a blow out.  And I think UMHB is every bit the team UWW is.

Coolrey, that sounds like a slippery back-pedal.  The known results are that HSU is 3 to 4 TD's short of UMHB.  And your statement was that HSU is "at least as good as the upcoming Johnnie's and even Warhawks".  I believe your statement that HSU is "at least as good" as UW-W is either naive or wishful thinking.   I think UMHB/UW-W will be a great game if it happens.

I will concur that I may have overstated a bit.  However, I think HSU is a solid team and could very well be competitive with UWW and St. John's if they had the opportunity.  UMHB, MU and UWW and maybe even St. John's are in a league of their own for sure.  But I wouldn't be surprised if HSU was able to hang w/ St. John's and UWW.

Thanks for the clarification. In the meantime, two great quarterfinals in the west.  One thing I will say about HSU, they may rank just a little behind the four remaining teams in the South/West bracket, but I'll bet you they would be the best team Mount Union would have to face if they were a remaining team on the other side of the bracket!
I think HSU is a solid team as well Coolray, but I think they'd get smoked by the air attack of St Johns. the defensive backfield is a weakness for them. Same would be the case in a UMU HSU game Fulford would eat them alive. The guys up front and in the trenches would match up favorably. Skill positions and RB would get some yardage, but I dont think the DBs could contain them.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Toby Taff

Quote from: D O.C. on November 25, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Oh boy! It's slings and arrows time!
My money is the Collegeville Crew can get the polite Come On Down Cru a tad riled up this week.
You know us DOC. Most have been on here long enough that it takes a lot for the trolls to get under the skin. I've already seen shots fired about "not seen a defense. . . , " and I'll leave it at every year the defense seems to step up a level. There is no AJ Fenene or Haston Adams on the line this year, but they line keeps doing what Coach Harmon needs them to do and every year looks better than the last. I guess we'll see who pushes who around on the line Saturday, and if St. Johns WRs can create the space they need.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

HScoach

No idea who wins on Saturday, but I can say that there has been only 1 team that I've seen be faster than Mount and that's MHB.  UWW has given Mount fits because of their superior physicality, but MHB does it with speed across the entire defense.  They actually remind me of Mount defensively, only bigger up front.
I find easily offended people rather offensive!

Statistics are like bikinis; what they reveal is interesting, what they hide is essential.

sjusection105

Quote from: Toby Taff on November 25, 2018, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 25, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Oh boy! It's slings and arrows time!
My money is the Collegeville Crew can get the polite Come On Down Cru a tad riled up this week.
You know us DOC. Most have been on here long enough that it takes a lot for the trolls to get under the skin. I've already seen shots fired about "not seen a defense. . . , " and I'll leave it at every year the defense seems to step up a level. There is no AJ Fenene or Haston Adams on the line this year, but they line keeps doing what Coach Harmon needs them to do and every year looks better than the last. I guess we'll see who pushes who around on the line Saturday, and if St. Johns WRs can create the space they need.
By definition, that's what they (along with TE tandam) do......run excellent routes and create mismatches in space as well as tight coverage.
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

Toby Taff

Quote from: sjusection105 on November 25, 2018, 07:52:48 PM
Quote from: Toby Taff on November 25, 2018, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 25, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Oh boy! It's slings and arrows time!
My money is the Collegeville Crew can get the polite Come On Down Cru a tad riled up this week.
You know us DOC. Most have been on here long enough that it takes a lot for the trolls to get under the skin. I've already seen shots fired about "not seen a defense. . . , " and I'll leave it at every year the defense seems to step up a level. There is no AJ Fenene or Haston Adams on the line this year, but they line keeps doing what Coach Harmon needs them to do and every year looks better than the last. I guess we'll see who pushes who around on the line Saturday, and if St. Johns WRs can create the space they need.
By definition, that's what they (along with TE tandam) do......run excellent routes and create mismatches in space as well as tight coverage.
And UMHB's defensive backfield covers and tackles very well. My biggest concern will be the TEs in the middle of the field, but even then, there are not usually many RAC yards. Guess we'll see saturday
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.