FB: American Southwest Conference

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DISCLAIMER TO AVOID HURT FEELINGS BY ST JOHNS OR BETHEL FANS: The above was meant as fun, harmless banter and in no way does it assume that UMHB will beat St. John's or that UW-W will beat Bethel. Both are fine Minnesota football teams worthy of playing December football.
                         -Signed, the kinder, gentler Bleedpurple

I got quite the chuckle out of this this morning. 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

2003:  poster child for a team not being tested before the Stagg.   Very average Mount team with rotating QB's and RB's, none of which were difference makers that had it way too easy and therefore their flaws weren't exposed until it was too late.   Playoffs went 39-14 over LaCrosse, 56-10 over Wheaton, 66-0 over Bridgewater in semi-finals and lost Stagg to St John's 24-6.  Team was lacking strong senior leadership and was coming off 3 consecutive undefeated championships and honestly felt entitled.  Didn't play with near the urgency throughout the season that the title teams before or after them did.  The easy path thru the regular season and playoffs just fed their inflated ego that they were untouchable.  SJU quickly proved that wasn't the case.

I recall a lot of chest-thumping, "best Mount team ever" comments prior to the 2003 Stagg.  Hindsight is 20/20!

I doubt it was HScoach doing the chest-thumping.  He is pretty even-keeled when discussing MTU Football and usually "tells it like it is."

[02 Warhawk]

2003:  poster child for a team not being tested before the Stagg.   Very average Mount team with rotating QB's and RB's, none of which were difference makers that had it way too easy and therefore their flaws weren't exposed until it was too late.   Playoffs went 39-14 over LaCrosse, 56-10 over Wheaton, 66-0 over Bridgewater in semi-finals and lost Stagg to St John's 24-6.  Team was lacking strong senior leadership and was coming off 3 consecutive undefeated championships and honestly felt entitled.  Didn't play with near the urgency throughout the season that the title teams before or after them did.  The easy path thru the regular season and playoffs just fed their inflated ego that they were untouchable.  SJU quickly proved that wasn't the case.

I recall a lot of chest-thumping, "best Mount team ever" comments prior to the 2003 Stagg.  Hindsight is 20/20!

I doubt it was HScoach doing the chest-thumping.  He is pretty even-keeled when discussing MTU Football and usually "tells it like it is."

It was probably Purplesuit. He was the worst.

[DuffMan]

I doubt it was HScoach doing the chest-thumping.  He is pretty even-keeled when discussing MTU Football and usually "tells it like it is."

Definitely wasn't implying that it was HScoach--hell, it was 15 years ago, but I distinctly remember folks saying that.

Come to think of it, there were a number of St. Thomas folks saying the same about the 2018 Tommie$. 

[DFWCrufan]

Texas Football Today - top College FB teams in Texas (all Divisions) - The HEAT Check starts about mid way through the show Rankings of all texas college football programs...  Austin 38 - Howard Payne 44 Sul Ross 45 (Hey at least they are better then the Rice Owls)McMurry 41    But HERE is the interesting thing... UMHB #1  HSU #3 (Tarlton #2 really I guess they got hot) Texas #7 And #10 Trinity Tigers! Hmmmm 3 DIII programs listed in the top 10 Funny comment made by the host "If it weren't for the existance of UMHB Hardin Simmons would be top of the heap" Heh


https://www.texasfootball.com/texas-football-today/

NOTE* It seems the link is on and off so you may not hear the discussian.. here is the list in hard copy...https://www.texasfootball.com/college-heat-index?ref=search

[jamtod]

I doubt it was HScoach doing the chest-thumping.  He is pretty even-keeled when discussing MTU Football and usually "tells it like it is."

Definitely wasn't implying that it was HScoach--hell, it was 15 years ago, but I distinctly remember folks saying that.

Come to think of it, there were a number of St. Thomas folks saying the same about the 2018 Tommie$. 

It sure looked like the best UST team we'd seen. Until your boys exposed us and made us look like chumps.

[George Thompson]

Quote from: HSUAlum255 on Today at 11:42:23 am

I don't think we would romp our way through another region, but I do feel as if we could make the quarters as in a way Mulenburg or RPI did this year. I've watched both play this year and I believe HSU is a better team than both. Especially the way we played finishing out the season. I would love to have the ability to do that, until then we will have to deal with the dominance of UMHB in our own region, if not playing another power in Linfield. It is a fair question, but I mean a lot of people were really high on Berry and you saw their result to UMHB compared to both of ours. St. John's is a good team, and I am anxious to see how they match up to UMHB.

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I, being a Linfield fan, agree with you.    HSU is consistently a good football team.    I have expressed for years the HORRIBLE seeding of the teams.    HSU could advance to the 2nd round or 3rd round if they were scheduled to meet most of the teams in the East or South regions.     Or, if they met the champions from the weaker conferences in the West or North.

I continue to fail to understand NCAA seedings.     Bizarre and very unfair.

George

[HScoach]

2003:  poster child for a team not being tested before the Stagg.   Very average Mount team with rotating QB's and RB's, none of which were difference makers that had it way too easy and therefore their flaws weren't exposed until it was too late.   Playoffs went 39-14 over LaCrosse, 56-10 over Wheaton, 66-0 over Bridgewater in semi-finals and lost Stagg to St John's 24-6.  Team was lacking strong senior leadership and was coming off 3 consecutive undefeated championships and honestly felt entitled.  Didn't play with near the urgency throughout the season that the title teams before or after them did.  The easy path thru the regular season and playoffs just fed their inflated ego that they were untouchable.  SJU quickly proved that wasn't the case.

I recall a lot of chest-thumping, "best Mount team ever" comments prior to the 2003 Stagg.  Hindsight is 20/20!

You didn't hear that from me.  I've been closely following Mount far enough back that LK was just the QB coach and never thought that team was all that and a bag of chips.  Yes,  there are plenty of blowhards following Mount, but those with a realistic clear view of that team would have known they were really good, but not dominant.

[AO]

2003:  poster child for a team not being tested before the Stagg.   Very average Mount team with rotating QB's and RB's, none of which were difference makers that had it way too easy and therefore their flaws weren't exposed until it was too late.   Playoffs went 39-14 over LaCrosse, 56-10 over Wheaton, 66-0 over Bridgewater in semi-finals and lost Stagg to St John's 24-6.  Team was lacking strong senior leadership and was coming off 3 consecutive undefeated championships and honestly felt entitled.  Didn't play with near the urgency throughout the season that the title teams before or after them did.  The easy path thru the regular season and playoffs just fed their inflated ego that they were untouchable.  SJU quickly proved that wasn't the case.

I recall a lot of chest-thumping, "best Mount team ever" comments prior to the 2003 Stagg.  Hindsight is 20/20!

You didn't hear that from me.  I've been closely following Mount far enough back that LK was just the QB coach and never thought that team was all that and a bag of chips.  Yes,  there are plenty of blowhards following Mount, but those with a realistic clear view of that team would have known they were really good, but not dominant.

I don't know how going undefeated for 4 years could be described as anything but dominant. 

[DuffMan]

Our version of the SJU/UMHB Game Notes are up.

[crufootball]

Our version of the SJU/UMHB Game Notes are up.

As are our notes at https://cruathletics.com/news/2018/11/28/football-prepares-to-face-saint-johns-in-ncaa-quarterfinals.aspx

[HSCTiger74]

2003:  poster child for a team not being tested before the Stagg.   Very average Mount team with rotating QB's and RB's, none of which were difference makers that had it way too easy and therefore their flaws weren't exposed until it was too late.   Playoffs went 39-14 over LaCrosse, 56-10 over Wheaton, 66-0 over Bridgewater in semi-finals and lost Stagg to St John's 24-6.  Team was lacking strong senior leadership and was coming off 3 consecutive undefeated championships and honestly felt entitled.  Didn't play with near the urgency throughout the season that the title teams before or after them did.  The easy path thru the regular season and playoffs just fed their inflated ego that they were untouchable.  SJU quickly proved that wasn't the case.

I recall a lot of chest-thumping, "best Mount team ever" comments prior to the 2003 Stagg.  Hindsight is 20/20!

I doubt it was HScoach doing the chest-thumping.  He is pretty even-keeled when discussing MTU Football and usually "tells it like it is."

It was probably Purplesuit. He was the worst.

Or maybe 70sraider?

[02 Warhawk]

2003:  poster child for a team not being tested before the Stagg.   Very average Mount team with rotating QB's and RB's, none of which were difference makers that had it way too easy and therefore their flaws weren't exposed until it was too late.   Playoffs went 39-14 over LaCrosse, 56-10 over Wheaton, 66-0 over Bridgewater in semi-finals and lost Stagg to St John's 24-6.  Team was lacking strong senior leadership and was coming off 3 consecutive undefeated championships and honestly felt entitled.  Didn't play with near the urgency throughout the season that the title teams before or after them did.  The easy path thru the regular season and playoffs just fed their inflated ego that they were untouchable.  SJU quickly proved that wasn't the case.

I recall a lot of chest-thumping, "best Mount team ever" comments prior to the 2003 Stagg.  Hindsight is 20/20!

I doubt it was HScoach doing the chest-thumping.  He is pretty even-keeled when discussing MTU Football and usually "tells it like it is."

It was probably Purplesuit. He was the worst.

Or maybe 70sraider?

Oh man, he was a piece of work too.

[roocru]

2003:  poster child for a team not being tested before the Stagg.   Very average Mount team with rotating QB's and RB's, none of which were difference makers that had it way too easy and therefore their flaws weren't exposed until it was too late.   Playoffs went 39-14 over LaCrosse, 56-10 over Wheaton, 66-0 over Bridgewater in semi-finals and lost Stagg to St John's 24-6.  Team was lacking strong senior leadership and was coming off 3 consecutive undefeated championships and honestly felt entitled.  Didn't play with near the urgency throughout the season that the title teams before or after them did.  The easy path thru the regular season and playoffs just fed their inflated ego that they were untouchable.  SJU quickly proved that wasn't the case.

I recall a lot of chest-thumping, "best Mount team ever" comments prior to the 2003 Stagg.  Hindsight is 20/20!

I doubt it was HScoach doing the chest-thumping.  He is pretty even-keeled when discussing MTU Football and usually "tells it like it is."

It was probably Purplesuit. He was the worst.

Or maybe 70sraider?

Oh man, he was a piece of work too.

My vote goes to Purplesuit!

[sjujohnnie]

What factors have contributed to UMHB's extremely fast ascent being such a young program? Abundance of talent in close proximity being the greatest? Did I read that their head coach has been at the helm since the program's inception? Why a move from NAIA to Division III?