FB: American Southwest Conference

[UMHB03]

A note was left on students cars outside of mayborn today that had to deal with the UMHB football team. The note read "Pete Fredenburg and the UMHB football team are an embarrassment to central Texas,,, an embarrassment to the alumni and students of the university, and to the university itself, and should consider resigning.  At the very least he should google "sportsmanship" and memorize what it means.  I would suggest that he schedule a game with the Belton Jr. high team and see if he can score 300 points on them to set a record!!!!! THAT would make Pete proud."  The note also included a list of the score of every regular season game from this season.  The note was not signed. Personally I think that if teams didn't want that much scored on them, they need to prepare better, and it's not like UMHB leaves the starters in, but we aren't just gonna tell our 3rd string not to score. What are yalls thoughts?

Sounds like someone needs their diaper changed.

[DFWCrufan]

A note was left on students cars outside of mayborn today that had to deal with the UMHB football team. The note read "Pete Fredenburg and the UMHB football team are an embarrassment to central Texas,,, an embarrassment to the alumni and students of the university, and to the university itself, and should consider resigning.  At the very least he should google "sportsmanship" and memorize what it means.  I would suggest that he schedule a game with the Belton Jr. high team and see if he can score 300 points on them to set a record!!!!! THAT would make Pete proud."  The note also included a list of the score of every regular season game from this season.  The note was not signed. Personally I think that if teams didn't want that much scored on them, they need to prepare better, and it's not like UMHB leaves the starters in, but we aren't just gonna tell our 3rd string not to score. What are yalls thoughts?

Sounds like someone needs their diaper changed.

Wow... so has someone opened a safe space cry room full of puppies and kitties on campus? That is a new one to me. Seems to me it sounds like the female (one game) commentator of Chapman U who made herself famous in the game broadcast saying " I think Chapman should let the other team score since they are beating them so badly" and speaking about the opposing team "they seem so sad, I hope they will come out of the locker room for the second half" Like the famous man once said "Your damned if you do, your damned if you don't"

[Toby Taff]

A note was left on students cars outside of mayborn today that had to deal with the UMHB football team. The note read "Pete Fredenburg and the UMHB football team are an embarrassment to central Texas,,, an embarrassment to the alumni and students of the university, and to the university itself, and should consider resigning.  At the very least he should google "sportsmanship" and memorize what it means.  I would suggest that he schedule a game with the Belton Jr. high team and see if he can score 300 points on them to set a record!!!!! THAT would make Pete proud."  The note also included a list of the score of every regular season game from this season.  The note was not signed. Personally I think that if teams didn't want that much scored on them, they need to prepare better, and it's not like UMHB leaves the starters in, but we aren't just gonna tell our 3rd string not to score. What are yalls thoughts?

We had the same issues at HSU when I played there 98-01. Most games we had first string play 1qr and few plays in second. Second string playing the rest of first half. Third team play 3rd and 4th - Down playing last qrt.  It got to the point the school newspaper was running it's mouth on a weekly basis, and even stated our facilities should be open to all students. ( Mad they couldn't use our weight room). It's hard not to run up the score when the other team completely quits or their players couldn't even play highschool ball. Non athletic college students run their mouths, but have little ideal or work ethic that it takes to play college ball. Getting up to work out at 5am, get done and you might be lucky to have a HR(if you took a 9 instead of 8 o'clock class) before class , get done around one and have to be dressed on the field at 3 practice till 630-7pm, get a bite to eat and watch film from 8- 9pm, stay up till 12am studying then do it all over again the next day.  We offered the newspaper sports writer to do what we do in a day including practice. Needless to say he apologized and didn't write that crap no more. Oh he refused our invitation to join the team for a day lol😂😂😂

I agree that you have no control over the quality of your conference opponents I also agree if you don't want 70 hung on you step up your program. As long as your playing your bench and not purposely trying to embarrass your opponent then it is what it is. If your offense is primarily a passing oriented attack you have to let your bench run your offense. I disagree with going for two with the game well in hand but outside of that all is fair. Now the thing I don't like is D3 Elite scheduling weak non conference opponents but as long as the playoffs are structured as they are this will be the norm, no one can afford a loss outside the conference if you play in a tough conference the risk is too great. UMHB has built a great program and it is disappointing given the ASC's geographical location that there aren't more high quality programs then just UMHB and HSU. Please don't talk about ETBU and Southwestern they are not strong D3 programs the ASC should consistently have 3-4 teams in the Top 25 given the talent in Texas and Louisiana

I will only say this about ETBU, They have talent, but when you have as much turnover at HC as they have recently, it's hard to be consistent. Southwestern shows flashes of good, and I hope they can build a consistent program that can at least make every game vs UMHB competitive at some point. It would be great to have a legit rivalry with a school 30 miles down the road.

[57Johnnie]

Since it is catfish Friday, who has the best catfish in Belton?
Fry's - Brody's .........   

[MonroviaCat]

A note was left on students cars outside of mayborn today that had to deal with the UMHB football team. The note read "Pete Fredenburg and the UMHB football team are an embarrassment to central Texas,,, an embarrassment to the alumni and students of the university, and to the university itself, and should consider resigning.  At the very least he should google "sportsmanship" and memorize what it means.  I would suggest that he schedule a game with the Belton Jr. high team and see if he can score 300 points on them to set a record!!!!! THAT would make Pete proud."  The note also included a list of the score of every regular season game from this season.  The note was not signed. Personally I think that if teams didn't want that much scored on them, they need to prepare better, and it's not like UMHB leaves the starters in, but we aren't just gonna tell our 3rd string not to score. What are yalls thoughts?

We had the same issues at HSU when I played there 98-01. Most games we had first string play 1qr and few plays in second. Second string playing the rest of first half. Third team play 3rd and 4th - Down playing last qrt.  It got to the point the school newspaper was running it's mouth on a weekly basis, and even stated our facilities should be open to all students. ( Mad they couldn't use our weight room). It's hard not to run up the score when the other team completely quits or their players couldn't even play highschool ball. Non athletic college students run their mouths, but have little ideal or work ethic that it takes to play college ball. Getting up to work out at 5am, get done and you might be lucky to have a HR(if you took a 9 instead of 8 o'clock class) before class , get done around one and have to be dressed on the field at 3 practice till 630-7pm, get a bite to eat and watch film from 8- 9pm, stay up till 12am studying then do it all over again the next day.  We offered the newspaper sports writer to do what we do in a day including practice. Needless to say he apologized and didn't write that crap no more. Oh he refused our invitation to join the team for a day lol😂😂😂

I agree that you have no control over the quality of your conference opponents I also agree if you don't want 70 hung on you step up your program. As long as your playing your bench and not purposely trying to embarrass your opponent then it is what it is. If your offense is primarily a passing oriented attack you have to let your bench run your offense. I disagree with going for two with the game well in hand but outside of that all is fair. Now the thing I don't like is D3 Elite scheduling weak non conference opponents but as long as the playoffs are structured as they are this will be the norm, no one can afford a loss outside the conference if you play in a tough conference the risk is too great. UMHB has built a great program and it is disappointing given the ASC's geographical location that there aren't more high quality programs then just UMHB and HSU. Please don't talk about ETBU and Southwestern they are not strong D3 programs the ASC should consistently have 3-4 teams in the Top 25 given the talent in Texas and Louisiana

I'm not sure if you are suggesting that UMHB is guilty of scheduling weak non conference opponents.  If so, I think you are wrong.  I think often we see some of the D3 elites playing ho-hum non conference schedules but over the years UMHB has seemed to take any and all comers to fill their non-conference schedules.  They had Linfield (my team) in 2016 and 2017, they've had UW-LaCrosse, Wesley, etc.....  I think 2 things need to be considered here:  1.  Scheduling often occurs years in advance so a "good team" on the schedule a few years down the road could end up being a "weak team" by the time you play them (maybe the case with Albright this year?).  2.  When you are looking at the truly elite D3 teams in a given year they are going to make nearly any opponent look like a weak team when they match up.  I'm curious to see how the Johnnies and the Cru play each other this week but I would not be surprised if UMHB rolls right through St. Johns like they have against everybody else....

[crufootball]

A note was left on students cars outside of mayborn today that had to deal with the UMHB football team. The note read "Pete Fredenburg and the UMHB football team are an embarrassment to central Texas,,, an embarrassment to the alumni and students of the university, and to the university itself, and should consider resigning.  At the very least he should google "sportsmanship" and memorize what it means.  I would suggest that he schedule a game with the Belton Jr. high team and see if he can score 300 points on them to set a record!!!!! THAT would make Pete proud."  The note also included a list of the score of every regular season game from this season.  The note was not signed. Personally I think that if teams didn't want that much scored on them, they need to prepare better, and it's not like UMHB leaves the starters in, but we aren't just gonna tell our 3rd string not to score. What are yalls thoughts?

We had the same issues at HSU when I played there 98-01. Most games we had first string play 1qr and few plays in second. Second string playing the rest of first half. Third team play 3rd and 4th - Down playing last qrt.  It got to the point the school newspaper was running it's mouth on a weekly basis, and even stated our facilities should be open to all students. ( Mad they couldn't use our weight room). It's hard not to run up the score when the other team completely quits or their players couldn't even play highschool ball. Non athletic college students run their mouths, but have little ideal or work ethic that it takes to play college ball. Getting up to work out at 5am, get done and you might be lucky to have a HR(if you took a 9 instead of 8 o'clock class) before class , get done around one and have to be dressed on the field at 3 practice till 630-7pm, get a bite to eat and watch film from 8- 9pm, stay up till 12am studying then do it all over again the next day.  We offered the newspaper sports writer to do what we do in a day including practice. Needless to say he apologized and didn't write that crap no more. Oh he refused our invitation to join the team for a day lol😂😂😂

I agree that you have no control over the quality of your conference opponents I also agree if you don't want 70 hung on you step up your program. As long as your playing your bench and not purposely trying to embarrass your opponent then it is what it is. If your offense is primarily a passing oriented attack you have to let your bench run your offense. I disagree with going for two with the game well in hand but outside of that all is fair. Now the thing I don't like is D3 Elite scheduling weak non conference opponents but as long as the playoffs are structured as they are this will be the norm, no one can afford a loss outside the conference if you play in a tough conference the risk is too great. UMHB has built a great program and it is disappointing given the ASC's geographical location that there aren't more high quality programs then just UMHB and HSU. Please don't talk about ETBU and Southwestern they are not strong D3 programs the ASC should consistently have 3-4 teams in the Top 25 given the talent in Texas and Louisiana

I'm not sure if you are suggesting that UMHB is guilty of scheduling weak non conference opponents.  If so, I think you are wrong.  I think often we see some of the D3 elites playing ho-hum non conference schedules but over the years UMHB has seemed to take any and all comers to fill their non-conference schedules.  They had Linfield (my team) in 2016 and 2017, they've had UW-LaCrosse, Wesley, etc.....  I think 2 things need to be considered here:  1.  Scheduling often occurs years in advance so a "good team" on the schedule a few years down the road could end up being a "weak team" by the time you play them (maybe the case with Albright this year?).  2.  When you are looking at the truly elite D3 teams in a given year they are going to make nearly any opponent look like a weak team when they match up.  I'm curious to see how the Johnnies and the Cru play each other this week but I would not be surprised if UMHB rolls right through St. Johns like they have against everybody else....

Crazy thing about Albright is they were scheduled I believe sometime in April but it shows just how hard it can be to ensure anything. Albright had gone 8-3 the two previous season and was 10-2 the year before that.

You are right though that UMHB has show no desire to find a cupcake and clearly is willing to fly around the country in order to get a game.

[02 Warhawk]

By all accounts The Cru is a team on par with the great Mount Union dynasty of the past 20+ years.

On the other hand, and from time to time (perhaps the result of 70 years of championship football) the Johnnies unleash something we know as "Johnnie Magic".

The Johnnies have strange ways of winning football games, seemingly undermanned and outgunned SJU emerges victorious. 

So many questions about these three comments.....but I'll leave it alone.

[DustySJU]

By all accounts The Cru is a team on par with the great Mount Union dynasty of the past 20+ years.

On the other hand, and from time to time (perhaps the result of 70 years of championship football) the Johnnies unleash something we know as "Johnnie Magic".

The Johnnies have strange ways of winning football games, seemingly undermanned and outgunned SJU emerges victorious. 

So many questions about these three comments.....but I'll leave it alone.

Nothing astonishing here.  The Johnnies have about 4 different approaches in the passing game with the running game naturally picking up steam in the second half.  I would suspect the Johnnie Defense at least matches up with the Hardin Simmons Defense in that respect, if the J's can keep The Cru to 24 maybe, just maybe the Johnnies can be competitive on Saturday. 

If the Johnnie Cru matchup gets boring we can always switch over to the Bethel WarHawk for a real battle.  Make no doubt, WarHawks have reached dynasty levels.  Would love to see another Johnnie U Dub Dub game - in Collegeville.

SJU Legendary Coach John Gagliardi is still in the minds of Johnnie Football, I hope he's enjoying following the season.

Developing....

[D O.C.]

NO INJURIES!

[edward de vere]

Maybe the UMHB offense has been hiding plays the past two weeks ala Mount Union with Greg Micheli's first postseason..

Ah, good memories. . . .

[SaintsFAN]

This is the only game out of the four this weekend where weather won't be a factor... Looks like it will be perfect weather in Belton tomorrow. 

Wonder how this will impact the other games.

[crufootball]

This is the only game out of the four this weekend where weather won't be a factor... Looks like it will be perfect weather in Belton tomorrow. 

Wonder how this will impact the other games.

Can't say I am sad that I will be in shorts at a December playoff game 

Yeah the weather looks downright awful to this warm blooded Texan at all the other games especially in Whitewater but I don't think it changes much there with both teams being more run based. The Mules certainly won't be helped by the rain although I doubt it would have made much of a defense since the Machine is pretty weather proof. And lastly I think the Blue Jays will have too much fire power for RPI to contain them no matter the weather.

[SaintsFAN]

This is the only game out of the four this weekend where weather won't be a factor... Looks like it will be perfect weather in Belton tomorrow. 

Wonder how this will impact the other games.

Can't say I am sad that I will be in shorts at a December playoff game 

Yeah the weather looks downright awful to this warm blooded Texan at all the other games especially in Whitewater but I don't think it changes much there with both teams being more run based. The Mules certainly won't be helped by the rain although I doubt it would have made much of a defense since the Machine is pretty weather proof. And lastly I think the Blue Jays will have too much fire power for RPI to contain them no matter the weather.

I'm looking at that game in Baltimore... RPI impressed me last week on defense and with their running game against Brockport.  We'll see how reliant the Blue Jays are on the passing game. 

In Whitewater - man, that will be two teams absolutely smashing eachother.  I agree, the wind shouldn't hurt either team.. but wind and rain could make ball security an interesting side story. 

Game of the day is in the best weather.  I'm really excited to see this matchup. 

[GillCJ1]

Ok. Cool
Go Cru! ⚔️

[2LiveCru]

A little excerpt from the SJU game notes... theres a big difference in speed between these two teams. 

40-YARD DASH TIMES
Sophomore wide receiver Blake Patrick (St. Stephen, Minn./Holdingford) recorded the team's fastest laser-timed, 40-yard dash time, 4.63 seconds, when the team conducted testing Aug. 11. He ran a time of 4.75 seconds, which was fourth-best on the team, as
a freshman last season. Patrick made his presence, and speed, known with a 48-yard reception Sept. 1. Senior defensive back Sam Marshall (Marshall, Minn.), a former run- ning back, followed in second at 4.7 seconds. Junior wide receiver Andrew VanErp was third at 4.74 seconds.