FB: American Southwest Conference

[GLAD2BCOWBOY]

It was a very bad offensive night. I lost count on how many def TD's TLU had. Not to mention other turnovers TLU took in red zone.  Likely a devastating loss for the COwboys.  And they get two weeks to "think" about it. They can't seem to recruit game changing QB's   It's time to pick up the pieces and worry about what they can control and keep moving forward.

[umhb2001]

It was a very bad offensive night. I lost count on how many def TD's TLU had. Not to mention other turnovers TLU took in red zone.  Likely a devastating loss for the COwboys.  And they get two weeks to "think" about it. They can't seem to recruit game changing QB's   It's time to pick up the pieces and worry about what they can control and keep moving forward.

When I read that HSU's QB was a D1 transfer, I wondered what that would mean. I envisioned superior athleticism similar to Riddle for Linfield. I was not impressed with the QB at all. If he throws like that against UMHB, we will have 3+ picks as well. Kyle Jones was no better. Granted, he was playing against a prevent defense, but he looked the same as he did against Mount Union in the Stagg.

[D O.C.]

Congratulations to TLU

Too bad I stopped watching at the end of the 1st

[CowboyAlum261]

It was a very bad offensive night. I lost count on how many def TD's TLU had. Not to mention other turnovers TLU took in red zone.  Likely a devastating loss for the COwboys.  And they get two weeks to "think" about it. They can't seem to recruit game changing QB's   It's time to pick up the pieces and worry about what they can control and keep moving forward.

When I read that HSU's QB was a D1 transfer, I wondered what that would mean. I envisioned superior athleticism similar to Riddle for Linfield. I was not impressed with the QB at all. If he throws like that against UMHB, we will have 3+ picks as well. Kyle Jones was no better. Granted, he was playing against a prevent defense, but he looked the same as he did against Mount Union in the Stagg.

He has a huge arm and can run well, but he's had problems with turnovers all year. Last night it looked like the first one just got in his head and then he couldn't do anything right. Probably need to open up the competition again over the off week and see who can impress. Whoever wins will hopefully build som confidence—not gonna beat anybody if everybody in the stadium knows you don't have any confidence in the QB

[QB Jock Itch]

I don't know if people aren't giving TLU enough credit. I understand they gave up 300+ yrds but many consider Hemphill the best back in the conference maybe the country. I watched the majority of this game and TLU put it to hsu. They had a good game plan and caught some breaks. But they out played them.

Go CRU

[DFWCrufan]

The one thing I can say about TLU, they adapted in the second half to a very formidable Hamphill. At the start of the second it looked like Hemphill was teleporting all over the field and no one could stop him but after the start of the fourth TLU started collapsing the run, probably because they knew they could shut down a pass threat. So good on them, that was a very good win!

[umhb2001]

UMHB will have to continue to win on the outside with WRs, and I'd like to see them go across the middle with a couple of those tall TEs. I don't feel like they have been utilized enough. TLU will try to clamp on the run as they have done in the past. We need to get some more momentum in the run game and be prepared to wear down the DLine. I didn't keep track, but I doubt TLU has the depth to sustain a constant run game. If HSU can get Hemphill 300+, we should be able to get that combined.

Any updates on injuries out there?

[D O.C.]

Probably just save those tight end patterns until the challenge games, ie,  2nd round of the playoffs.

[Coolrey]

TLU has a very good team.  They were opportunistic on turnovers which was the key factor in this game.  Statistically, they did not match HSU and had there been no turnovers, it would likely have been a different outcome.  But turnovers count.  Just like they did in 2015 when HSU was on the ropes and TLU turned the ball over and had untimely penalties.  If TLU can hang w/ UMHB, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't get a post-season bid so long as they don't get upset by someone else.  UMHB needs to get tested.  Belhaven was not a test, even though the score indicated a tight game.  McMurry is in the first year of a new staff and is made up of mainly freshmen and sophomores, so they were in no position to present any kind of a challenge to UMHB.  Was a bit surprised that UMHB was throwing the ball so late in that game, but they do have to work on their passing game.  Just felt that it was a little bit over-the-top.

[wally_wabash]

If TLU can hang w/ UMHB, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't get a post-season bid so long as they don't get upset by someone else. 

The second loss is a reason why.  It'll be interesting to see how the South organizes their rankings and what they would do with an 8-2 TLU team relative to single loss Centennials and a single loss SAA runner up (if it shakes out that way) or a single loss PAC runner up.  Last year the planets aligned in such a way that the South was able to snag three Pool Cs, but they were all one loss teams.

There's a good discussion about the still very blurry Pool C picture in the ATN pod today. 

[DFWCrufan]

TLU has a very good team.  They were opportunistic on turnovers which was the key factor in this game.  Statistically, they did not match HSU and had there been no turnovers, it would likely have been a different outcome.  But turnovers count.  Just like they did in 2015 when HSU was on the ropes and TLU turned the ball over and had untimely penalties.  If TLU can hang w/ UMHB, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't get a post-season bid so long as they don't get upset by someone else.  UMHB needs to get tested.  Belhaven was not a test, even though the score indicated a tight game.  McMurry is in the first year of a new staff and is made up of mainly freshmen and sophomores, so they were in no position to present any kind of a challenge to UMHB.  Was a bit surprised that UMHB was throwing the ball so late in that game, but they do have to work on their passing game.  Just felt that it was a little bit over-the-top.

the late passing comes down to getting reps for new players, like coach fred says, we are worried about us, not the other side. If plays come down to the last second to get some play time for players, so be it. It's not a personal thing, it's taking the opportunity to get players in a game setting and getting some reps. Ever wonder why the top programs keep getting there? think about it, more play time, up to 4 more games for some and 5 for the very few. That is half a season for some programs facing ever stiffening talent. It's not like coach pete is out there saying "Run it up!" it's play time and experience. Nothing personal

[mcmfan]

What does the HSU loss to TLU do for HSU's playoff hopes?  Assuming UMHB beats everybody in the conference, it goes automatically to the playoffs.  But if the ASC were to get an at-large bid, unless TLU loses to someone besides UMHB, wouldn't it get it rather than HSU?  I would think for HSU to get in, they have to hope TLU gets upset by someone, or if that doesn't happen, they have to beat UMHB.  Anything can happen, but the chances of either of these things happening seems rather slim to me.  Could HSU get a bid over TLU even with the loss to them?

[Etchglow]

So, the UMHB vs ETBU game this weekend should be the final game of Marquis Duncan's suspension right?  He was always very impressive with how shifty of a runner he was and had an amazing jump cut.  I wonder where he will fit in the running back by committee they have going.

[Coolrey]

TLU has a very good team.  They were opportunistic on turnovers which was the key factor in this game.  Statistically, they did not match HSU and had there been no turnovers, it would likely have been a different outcome.  But turnovers count.  Just like they did in 2015 when HSU was on the ropes and TLU turned the ball over and had untimely penalties.  If TLU can hang w/ UMHB, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't get a post-season bid so long as they don't get upset by someone else.  UMHB needs to get tested.  Belhaven was not a test, even though the score indicated a tight game.  McMurry is in the first year of a new staff and is made up of mainly freshmen and sophomores, so they were in no position to present any kind of a challenge to UMHB.  Was a bit surprised that UMHB was throwing the ball so late in that game, but they do have to work on their passing game.  Just felt that it was a little bit over-the-top.

I am not at all being critical as I did indicate that UMHB needs to continue to work on their passing game.  Also, I'm very well aware that UMHB isn't a "let's run it up on these guys" kind of a program.  The 2nd, 3rd and 4th string guys want to score just as much as the 1st team guys do.  And if the other team can't stop it, it is their problem.  It just seemed to me that they threw the ball more toward the end of the game than they normally would with a big lead.  I may be wrong, but I may not be.
the late passing comes down to getting reps for new players, like coach fred says, we are worried about us, not the other side. If plays come down to the last second to get some play time for players, so be it. It's not a personal thing, it's taking the opportunity to get players in a game setting and getting some reps. Ever wonder why the top programs keep getting there? think about it, more play time, up to 4 more games for some and 5 for the very few. That is half a season for some programs facing ever stiffening talent. It's not like coach pete is out there saying "Run it up!" it's play time and experience. Nothing personal

[crufootball]

TLU has a very good team.  They were opportunistic on turnovers which was the key factor in this game.  Statistically, they did not match HSU and had there been no turnovers, it would likely have been a different outcome.  But turnovers count.  Just like they did in 2015 when HSU was on the ropes and TLU turned the ball over and had untimely penalties.  If TLU can hang w/ UMHB, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't get a post-season bid so long as they don't get upset by someone else.  UMHB needs to get tested.  Belhaven was not a test, even though the score indicated a tight game.  McMurry is in the first year of a new staff and is made up of mainly freshmen and sophomores, so they were in no position to present any kind of a challenge to UMHB.  Was a bit surprised that UMHB was throwing the ball so late in that game, but they do have to work on their passing game.  Just felt that it was a little bit over-the-top.

I am not at all being critical as I did indicate that UMHB needs to continue to work on their passing game.  Also, I'm very well aware that UMHB isn't a "let's run it up on these guys" kind of a program.  The 2nd, 3rd and 4th string guys want to score just as much as the 1st team guys do.  And if the other team can't stop it, it is their problem.  It just seemed to me that they threw the ball more toward the end of the game than they normally would with a big lead.  I may be wrong, but I may not be.
the late passing comes down to getting reps for new players, like coach fred says, we are worried about us, not the other side. If plays come down to the last second to get some play time for players, so be it. It's not a personal thing, it's taking the opportunity to get players in a game setting and getting some reps. Ever wonder why the top programs keep getting there? think about it, more play time, up to 4 more games for some and 5 for the very few. That is half a season for some programs facing ever stiffening talent. It's not like coach pete is out there saying "Run it up!" it's play time and experience. Nothing personal

For whatever it is worth, UMHB ran the ball on 16 of the 18 offensive plays it ran in the 4th quarter. Now for some people that is still 2 too many but the only 2 throws came from the 4th QB we played that game and he only got to play in the very last drive. That QB by the way was Ryan Redding who started the first game of the year for us and I would assume would like to prove he could be our QB next year.