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umhb2001

Quote from: UMHB03 on October 19, 2019, 11:56:12 PM
The offense has been consistently bad in games that Hammack hasn't played. Don't be fooled by the 2nd half explosion against a terrible Albright defense, or putting up 31 offensive points on short drives against Southwestern.

If Jase can't go next week, the defense will need to hold HSU under 20 points, or get some scores themselves (or from the special teams).

Historically, UMHB has always been better in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. So saying don't get your hopes up about second half explosions is basically saying don't expect what just comes natural. I think the play calling changes. They don't look the same when Poorman is in there from the play calling standpoint.

Beginning of year, we had 1 guy back on offense who played last year at a skill position, Poorman. We had no identity, no rhythm, no connection. Those first few games look a lot different when you have consistency. Secondly, today, you could see the focus was on getting Marquis the ball early and often. The OLine was getting gashed and Luke didn't have time to throw. When he did, the throws were there.

As much as I like Jonell, he is not TJ Josey. He misses easy catches at times and is real streaky. Brenton Martin missed the whole first half. He must have done something stupid again. Finally, I don't think the last two weeks they've wanted to show anything on offense in preparation for HSU.

HSU will have a heavy dose of Hemphill. Jones is not going to have the time to throw like he did today. He was abismal against Mount Union and will be against us. We will stack the box and make him beat us in the passing.

42-10 is my early feeling.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

Etchglow

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A few of my better shots from yesterday:

(Got to use an $11,000 camera lens for this one...)

Jo'Vel McDaniel by William Brown, on Flickr


Luke Poorman by William Brown, on Flickr


Gary Ruckman by William Brown, on Flickr


Tevin Jones by William Brown, on Flickr

UMHB03

#22157
Quote from: umhb2001 on October 20, 2019, 02:08:11 AM
Quote from: UMHB03 on October 19, 2019, 11:56:12 PM
The offense has been consistently bad in games that Hammack hasn't played. Don't be fooled by the 2nd half explosion against a terrible Albright defense, or putting up 31 offensive points on short drives against Southwestern.

If Jase can't go next week, the defense will need to hold HSU under 20 points, or get some scores themselves (or from the special teams).

Historically, UMHB has always been better in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. So saying don't get your hopes up about second half explosions is basically saying don't expect what just comes natural. I think the play calling changes. They don't look the same when Poorman is in there from the play calling standpoint.

Beginning of year, we had 1 guy back on offense who played last year at a skill position, Poorman. We had no identity, no rhythm, no connection. Those first few games look a lot different when you have consistency. Secondly, today, you could see the focus was on getting Marquis the ball early and often. The OLine was getting gashed and Luke didn't have time to throw. When he did, the throws were there.

As much as I like Jonell, he is not TJ Josey. He misses easy catches at times and is real streaky. Brenton Martin missed the whole first half. He must have done something stupid again. Finally, I don't think the last two weeks they've wanted to show anything on offense in preparation for HSU.

HSU will have a heavy dose of Hemphill. Jones is not going to have the time to throw like he did today. He was abismal against Mount Union and will be against us. We will stack the box and make him beat us in the passing.

42-10 is my early feeling.
Albright's defense is giving up an average of 54 points to pretty mediocre competition, so there's not really any way to paint UMHB's performance against them in a positive light. We were right on par with Stevenson, DelVal, and FDU-Florham when it comes to offensive output against them.

I agree with your comments on Poorman. I think he has plenty of ability. For whatever reason, the team just doesn't respond to him the way they do to Hammack. That includes the O-Line, the WRs, and even the coaching staff. The offense just seems to run like a well-oiled machine when he is at the reigns, while it runs more like something Fredenburg might loan out (too soon?) without him.

You also make a good point about Jones from HSU. I feel good about containing him when he's under pressure. So far, neither team will have seen the kind of pressure that they're likely to see next week, so it should be a low scoring game.

If Hammack is healthy enough to play, and perform at a reasonably high level, I think UMHB wins by a couple of scores (something like 31-17). If not, and the defense/special teams don't get a score or two, I lean toward a close HSU win (something like 20-17)
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Etchglow

Looks like Tyler Jones is working for umhb now (per Twitter). So that means we get highlight videos again!

Here is the etbu highlight video:

https://youtu.be/VekfFWywqlQ

CowboyAlum261

Quote from: umhb2001 on October 20, 2019, 02:08:11 AM
Quote from: UMHB03 on October 19, 2019, 11:56:12 PM
The offense has been consistently bad in games that Hammack hasn't played. Don't be fooled by the 2nd half explosion against a terrible Albright defense, or putting up 31 offensive points on short drives against Southwestern.

If Jase can't go next week, the defense will need to hold HSU under 20 points, or get some scores themselves (or from the special teams).

Historically, UMHB has always been better in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. So saying don't get your hopes up about second half explosions is basically saying don't expect what just comes natural. I think the play calling changes. They don't look the same when Poorman is in there from the play calling standpoint.

Beginning of year, we had 1 guy back on offense who played last year at a skill position, Poorman. We had no identity, no rhythm, no connection. Those first few games look a lot different when you have consistency. Secondly, today, you could see the focus was on getting Marquis the ball early and often. The OLine was getting gashed and Luke didn't have time to throw. When he did, the throws were there.

As much as I like Jonell, he is not TJ Josey. He misses easy catches at times and is real streaky. Brenton Martin missed the whole first half. He must have done something stupid again. Finally, I don't think the last two weeks they've wanted to show anything on offense in preparation for HSU.

HSU will have a heavy dose of Hemphill. Jones is not going to have the time to throw like he did today. He was abismal against Mount Union and will be against us. We will stack the box and make him beat us in the passing.

42-10 is my early feeling.

I can understand why you'd predict HSU's offense won't be very successful, the Cru have a great D and we've looked bad on offense in 2/6 games. But I'm not sure why you'd think MHB's offense would be so successful when they've struggled against mediocre defenses and HSU hasn't given up anything substantive outside of garbage time. Not saying that makes HSU a favorite or even close, but I don't see any reason to expect the teams to combine for more than 42 points much less for MHB to score 42 by themselves.

umhb2001

Quote from: Etchglow on October 20, 2019, 09:48:47 AM
Looks like Tyler Jones is working for umhb now (per Twitter). So that means we get highlight videos again!

Here is the etbu highlight video:

https://youtu.be/VekfFWywqlQ

Do you have a twitter link for him?
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

Etchglow

Quote from: umhb2001 on October 20, 2019, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: Etchglow on October 20, 2019, 09:48:47 AM
Looks like Tyler Jones is working for umhb now (per Twitter). So that means we get highlight videos again!

Here is the etbu highlight video:

https://youtu.be/VekfFWywqlQ

Do you have a twitter link for him?

https://twitter.com/tylerjones116/status/1185721941384192000?s=19

SW66

If HSU doesnt beat themselves and doesn't turn the ball over then we will not beat them this year. This is a year where they have more talent on their team and we are playing some uninspired football. Our line doesn't block half the time and we run the same plays every series with backs who lack the speed to take it to the house. Pains me to say we may get taken to the woodshed if things don't change this week.

Toby Taff

My 2 cents. Luke is a good qb and evrytime he gets the chance to show it he puts up decent numbers and controls the game well without many mistakes, but this is not an offense designed for him or his strengths. Jase's skill set and big arm are better suited for the offense and it shows when he is in the game. Saturday seemed to be about 2 things, get the W and get Duncan into game shape. Both of those were successful. The HSU game is always a worry for me (got to get the W if I'm going to be walking around HSU with my Cru gear on), and I hate that it's homecoming. Never play your rival for homecoming! All of the young ones playing get to experience all of that for the first time. It could be a bit daunting for freshman who haven't felt the big game pressure yet. Defensively, I think UMHB's D can stand toe to toe with anybody, like every year, and there are a few of Kyle's old team mates that might like to get after him just a bit. Hemphill will be the key. Look for Tevin Jones and the LBs to have a lot of tackles Saturday. I don't think HSU will score many points, and I think we put up 24-30, regardless if its Jase or Luke . O line has to handle it's business for any of it to happen though. This one will be won in the trenches. I think CowboyAlum261is right on with regard to scoring 42 is probably the top number for total scoring and it'll probably be a 1-2 score victory. I'll put a guess ou there of 27-14 Cru, but the put away td doesn't come until the 4th.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

DFWCrufan

Everyone has raised great points concerning the UMHB/HSU game this Saturday. This game, as always is going to be up to the players. On paper both have strengths and weaknesses, as always, it's the team who is up and the team who executes! it's the battle of the Baptists baby!
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umhb2001

Quote from: SW66 on October 21, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
If HSU doesnt beat themselves and doesn't turn the ball over then we will not beat them this year. This is a year where they have more talent on their team and we are playing some uninspired football. Our line doesn't block half the time and we run the same plays every series with backs who lack the speed to take it to the house. Pains me to say we may get taken to the woodshed if things don't change this week.

I don't agree with this at all.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

UMHB03

Quote from: SW66 on October 21, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
If HSU doesnt beat themselves and doesn't turn the ball over then we will not beat them this year. This is a year where they have more talent on their team and we are playing some uninspired football. Our line doesn't block half the time and we run the same plays every series with backs who lack the speed to take it to the house. Pains me to say we may get taken to the woodshed if things don't change this week.
I don't agree that HSU has more talent this year, but UMHB has definitely struggled on offense when Hammack's not in the game. It's been night and day.

A typical Hammack-less offensive performance will either require a score or two from the defense/ST if the Crusaders are going to win, or the defense is going to have to completely shut down a pretty potent HSU offense. UMHB's offense simply isn't going to score much against a good defense without Hammack at the helm.
2016, 2018, and 2021 D3 Football National Champions

Toby Taff

for the record, Poorman is 47-66 with no picks and 7 tds for 716 yds on the season and averaging almost 4 yds / carry on the ground. He gets the job done. The offense looks different with Jase in yes, but without him we are still putting up enough to win, especially with the defense busting heads. We are used to scoring 50/game but we don't have to to win.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Etchglow

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Quote from: Toby Taff on October 21, 2019, 01:15:52 PM
for the record, Poorman is 47-66 with no picks and 7 tds for 716 yds on the season and averaging almost 4 yds / carry on the ground. He gets the job done. The offense looks different with Jase in yes, but without him we are still putting up enough to win, especially with the defense busting heads. We are used to scoring 50/game but we don't have to to win.

Yep, that doesn't even take into account the radically different play distributions.  When Jase has been in this year, we've passed the ball 57% of the time; however, when Luke is playing we're only calling a passing play 38% of the time.  That number is only 37.5% if you only look at the Belhaven and Southwestern games...




   
   
   
PassingGP-GSEfficiencyCmp-Att-IntPctYardsTDLongAvg/GSacksYards Per Completion
Luke Poorman6-3197.347-66-071.2716774119.3515.23
Jase Hammack4-2192.527-47-157.4465852116.2317.22

Defense is only allowing 1.3 yards per carry and 46.2 yards per game :o


umhb2001

With Luke we avg. 37 per game. With Jase, we average 64. Clear advantage to Jase there. Jase came in week three and played with RBs and WRs who had game experience. Luke played those first two games without much experience at the skill positions, coaches trying to figure out backups, and figuring the scheme.

Historically, SW has played us tough. It just is that way. Plus, we were trying to get Marquis ready for HSU.

I don't see KJ putting up numbers against us like he did against Belhaven. No way. I think this game will be what it has always been, a grudge match. HSU fans are going to come with their vile jokes about our program and the NCAA sanctions. It doesn't matter. We walk away with the victory.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!