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UMHB03

Quote from: Toby Taff on October 21, 2019, 01:15:52 PM
for the record, Poorman is 47-66 with no picks and 7 tds for 716 yds on the season and averaging almost 4 yds / carry on the ground. He gets the job done. The offense looks different with Jase in yes, but without him we are still putting up enough to win, especially with the defense busting heads. We are used to scoring 50/game but we don't have to to win.
Agreed. No slight intended toward Poorman, or any of the other QBs. They all have ability. The offense just runs a lot smoother with Jase in the game. A lot of that has less to do with how the QB is performing, and more to do with how the players around them perform. For whatever reason, Hammack just seems to get the best out of the guys around him.

I agree that we don't have to score 50 every game, but 23 points against Belhaven, and 33 points against Southwestern (with every scoring drive starting well inside their territory), translates to about 14-17 points against a good defense like HSU.
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DFWCrufan

Quote from: UMHB03 on October 21, 2019, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: SW66 on October 21, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
If HSU doesnt beat themselves and doesn't turn the ball over then we will not beat them this year. This is a year where they have more talent on their team and we are playing some uninspired football. Our line doesn't block half the time and we run the same plays every series with backs who lack the speed to take it to the house. Pains me to say we may get taken to the woodshed if things don't change this week.
I don't agree that HSU has more talent this year, but UMHB has definitely struggled on offense when Hammack's not in the game. It's been night and day.

A typical Hammack-less offensive performance will either require a score or two from the defense/ST if the Crusaders are going to win, or the defense is going to have to completely shut down a pretty potent HSU offense. UMHB's offense simply isn't going to score much against a good defense without Hammack at the helm.
Would you agree that Luke is a good player, but he is a player, where as Jase is a commanding player and his line responds to his commanding style? Am I off on  this thought?
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Etchglow

Quote from: DFWCrufan on October 21, 2019, 03:27:36 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on October 21, 2019, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: SW66 on October 21, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
If HSU doesnt beat themselves and doesn't turn the ball over then we will not beat them this year. This is a year where they have more talent on their team and we are playing some uninspired football. Our line doesn't block half the time and we run the same plays every series with backs who lack the speed to take it to the house. Pains me to say we may get taken to the woodshed if things don't change this week.
I don't agree that HSU has more talent this year, but UMHB has definitely struggled on offense when Hammack's not in the game. It's been night and day.

A typical Hammack-less offensive performance will either require a score or two from the defense/ST if the Crusaders are going to win, or the defense is going to have to completely shut down a pretty potent HSU offense. UMHB's offense simply isn't going to score much against a good defense without Hammack at the helm.
Would you agree that Luke is a good player, but he is a player, where as Jase is a commanding player and his line responds to his commanding style? Am I off on  this thought?

I'm just a casual fan, but the stats show that Luke is only on track to have one more sack per 100 pass possessions than Jase is right now. (7 to 6)

UMHB03

Quote from: DFWCrufan on October 21, 2019, 03:27:36 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on October 21, 2019, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: SW66 on October 21, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
If HSU doesnt beat themselves and doesn't turn the ball over then we will not beat them this year. This is a year where they have more talent on their team and we are playing some uninspired football. Our line doesn't block half the time and we run the same plays every series with backs who lack the speed to take it to the house. Pains me to say we may get taken to the woodshed if things don't change this week.
I don't agree that HSU has more talent this year, but UMHB has definitely struggled on offense when Hammack's not in the game. It's been night and day.

A typical Hammack-less offensive performance will either require a score or two from the defense/ST if the Crusaders are going to win, or the defense is going to have to completely shut down a pretty potent HSU offense. UMHB's offense simply isn't going to score much against a good defense without Hammack at the helm.
Would you agree that Luke is a good player, but he is a player, where as Jase is a commanding player and his line responds to his commanding style? Am I off on  this thought?
That may very well be the case. I'm no expert on the dynamics of the team, so I can't speak to that authoritatively. There is just a noticeable difference in the way the offense functions during games that Hammack plays in. Poorman does all the right things, but strangely enough, doesn't seem to get as much help from his teammates... or even the play calling. It's strange.
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Etchglow

Quote from: UMHB03 on October 21, 2019, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: DFWCrufan on October 21, 2019, 03:27:36 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on October 21, 2019, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: SW66 on October 21, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
If HSU doesnt beat themselves and doesn't turn the ball over then we will not beat them this year. This is a year where they have more talent on their team and we are playing some uninspired football. Our line doesn't block half the time and we run the same plays every series with backs who lack the speed to take it to the house. Pains me to say we may get taken to the woodshed if things don't change this week.
I don't agree that HSU has more talent this year, but UMHB has definitely struggled on offense when Hammack's not in the game. It's been night and day.

A typical Hammack-less offensive performance will either require a score or two from the defense/ST if the Crusaders are going to win, or the defense is going to have to completely shut down a pretty potent HSU offense. UMHB's offense simply isn't going to score much against a good defense without Hammack at the helm.
Would you agree that Luke is a good player, but he is a player, where as Jase is a commanding player and his line responds to his commanding style? Am I off on  this thought?
That may very well be the case. I'm no expert on the dynamics of the team, so I can't speak to that authoritatively. There is just a noticeable difference in the way the offense functions during games that Hammack plays in. Poorman does all the right things, but strangely enough, doesn't seem to get as much help from his teammates... or even the play calling. It's strange.

I think a lot seems to be play calling honestly. For some reason the games where he started the game plan was to run early and run often. Southwestern was something like 48 runs to 23 passes?

Captainred81

Hi from the OAC and a Mount fan. 

I was reading through some posts and I have a few thoughts.

If I'm not mistaken, UMHB is typically a run first team and everything else seems to work off the run game?  Also, the receiving core (outside of Reed ) is very young?  I would expect that UMHB would always have more rushes in a game than passes. 

Also, it seems that it would be difficult for both QB and the rest of the offense to get a solid comfort level in a game (with each other) considering the inconsistency each week.  Poorman starts, Hammack starts, run a lot, throw a lot.  I think Coach Fred needs to decide what kind of team he is, and stick to it.  Maybe that's the problem is that even he doesn't know yet.  Either way, if Hammack is hurt and can't play, Coach Fred needs to deal with it, and play the game his team needs to play.  Call the plays consistently and let the players go. 

Defensively, UMHB always has a great game plan, getting players into position to make big plays.  That is obviously still the case.  I'm not sure this defense is as formidable as years past, probably due to experience, but they are still pretty awesome.  I too expect a huge dose of Hemphill (which plays into the Cru's strength), but I would be surprised to see HSU come out slinging it around.  If I were them I would open up with some cheap play action, and quick passes to the flats, and bubble screens.  High percentage quick moving plays.  Alternate the pace of the game from quick passing to longer slower runs. 

My prediction, UMHB 24 - HSU 3. 

Go Cru, hope to see you in Shenandoah for round 3
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According to the Abilene Reporter News, Wooten didn't play in the Belhaven game because of a "rib issue," which is also why he didn't see any time in mop up duty. This could all be smoke, but it does make me wonder if there is any chance Coach Burleson ends up going with Wooten on Saturday.

Etchglow

Quote from: Captainred81 on October 22, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
Hi from the OAC and a Mount fan. 

I was reading through some posts and I have a few thoughts.

If I'm not mistaken, UMHB is typically a run first team and everything else seems to work off the run game?  Also, the receiving core (outside of Reed ) is very young?  I would expect that UMHB would always have more rushes in a game than passes. 

Also, it seems that it would be difficult for both QB and the rest of the offense to get a solid comfort level in a game (with each other) considering the inconsistency each week.  Poorman starts, Hammack starts, run a lot, throw a lot.  I think Coach Fred needs to decide what kind of team he is, and stick to it.  Maybe that's the problem is that even he doesn't know yet.  Either way, if Hammack is hurt and can't play, Coach Fred needs to deal with it, and play the game his team needs to play.  Call the plays consistently and let the players go. 

Defensively, UMHB always has a great game plan, getting players into position to make big plays.  That is obviously still the case.  I'm not sure this defense is as formidable as years past, probably due to experience, but they are still pretty awesome.  I too expect a huge dose of Hemphill (which plays into the Cru's strength), but I would be surprised to see HSU come out slinging it around.  If I were them I would open up with some cheap play action, and quick passes to the flats, and bubble screens.  High percentage quick moving plays.  Alternate the pace of the game from quick passing to longer slower runs. 

My prediction, UMHB 24 - HSU 3. 

Go Cru, hope to see you in Shenandoah for round 3

I think 2016 was the last year UMHB didn't have a revolving door at QB.  2017 had Kyle Jones and Carl Robinson III, 2018 had Jase and Luke, and well, we have this year. 

Coach Fred has always had a philosophy of taking what the defense gives us.  Although, we traditionally run the ball a lot due to garbage time.

I re-watched the Southwestern broadcast of the game yesterday, I love the way Duncan was running. 

crufootball

Quote from: Etchglow on October 22, 2019, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: Captainred81 on October 22, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
Hi from the OAC and a Mount fan. 

I was reading through some posts and I have a few thoughts.

If I'm not mistaken, UMHB is typically a run first team and everything else seems to work off the run game?  Also, the receiving core (outside of Reed ) is very young?  I would expect that UMHB would always have more rushes in a game than passes. 

Also, it seems that it would be difficult for both QB and the rest of the offense to get a solid comfort level in a game (with each other) considering the inconsistency each week.  Poorman starts, Hammack starts, run a lot, throw a lot.  I think Coach Fred needs to decide what kind of team he is, and stick to it.  Maybe that's the problem is that even he doesn't know yet.  Either way, if Hammack is hurt and can't play, Coach Fred needs to deal with it, and play the game his team needs to play.  Call the plays consistently and let the players go. 

Defensively, UMHB always has a great game plan, getting players into position to make big plays.  That is obviously still the case.  I'm not sure this defense is as formidable as years past, probably due to experience, but they are still pretty awesome.  I too expect a huge dose of Hemphill (which plays into the Cru's strength), but I would be surprised to see HSU come out slinging it around.  If I were them I would open up with some cheap play action, and quick passes to the flats, and bubble screens.  High percentage quick moving plays.  Alternate the pace of the game from quick passing to longer slower runs. 

My prediction, UMHB 24 - HSU 3. 

Go Cru, hope to see you in Shenandoah for round 3

I think 2016 was the last year UMHB didn't have a revolving door at QB.  2017 had Kyle Jones and Carl Robinson III, 2018 had Jase and Luke, and well, we have this year. 

Coach Fred has always had a philosophy of taking what the defense gives us.  Although, we traditionally run the ball a lot due to garbage time.

I re-watched the Southwestern broadcast of the game yesterday, I love the way Duncan was running.

2018 wasn't really much of a revolving door either though, Jase started 14 of the 15 games we played. And this year Jase has started every game that he has been in uniform.

Etchglow

Quote from: crufootball on October 22, 2019, 08:13:20 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on October 22, 2019, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: Captainred81 on October 22, 2019, 03:46:29 PM
Hi from the OAC and a Mount fan. 

I was reading through some posts and I have a few thoughts.

If I'm not mistaken, UMHB is typically a run first team and everything else seems to work off the run game?  Also, the receiving core (outside of Reed ) is very young?  I would expect that UMHB would always have more rushes in a game than passes. 

Also, it seems that it would be difficult for both QB and the rest of the offense to get a solid comfort level in a game (with each other) considering the inconsistency each week.  Poorman starts, Hammack starts, run a lot, throw a lot.  I think Coach Fred needs to decide what kind of team he is, and stick to it.  Maybe that's the problem is that even he doesn't know yet.  Either way, if Hammack is hurt and can't play, Coach Fred needs to deal with it, and play the game his team needs to play.  Call the plays consistently and let the players go. 

Defensively, UMHB always has a great game plan, getting players into position to make big plays.  That is obviously still the case.  I'm not sure this defense is as formidable as years past, probably due to experience, but they are still pretty awesome.  I too expect a huge dose of Hemphill (which plays into the Cru's strength), but I would be surprised to see HSU come out slinging it around.  If I were them I would open up with some cheap play action, and quick passes to the flats, and bubble screens.  High percentage quick moving plays.  Alternate the pace of the game from quick passing to longer slower runs. 

My prediction, UMHB 24 - HSU 3. 

Go Cru, hope to see you in Shenandoah for round 3

I think 2016 was the last year UMHB didn't have a revolving door at QB.  2017 had Kyle Jones and Carl Robinson III, 2018 had Jase and Luke, and well, we have this year. 

Coach Fred has always had a philosophy of taking what the defense gives us.  Although, we traditionally run the ball a lot due to garbage time.

I re-watched the Southwestern broadcast of the game yesterday, I love the way Duncan was running.

2018 wasn't really much of a revolving door either though, Jase started 14 of the 15 games we played. And this year Jase has started every game that he has been in uniform.

For some reason I thought others got more starts in 18. Luke actually got the first 2 series of the Howard Payne game before Jase came in.

umhb2001

Watching bits of the HSU game during WS. Two of Kyle Jones's TDs to this point are off dump passes where the WRs just outmatched the Blazers.
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Does anyone have the link to Coach Fred's coaches show this week? I know they had away to listen to the previous week.

Toby Taff

Quote from: QB Jock Itch on October 24, 2019, 11:38:05 AM
Does anyone have the link to Coach Fred's coaches show this week? I know they had away to listen to the previous week.
I just looked and it isn't there
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UMHB03

Has anyone heard any info on Hammack's status for Saturday?
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