FB: American Southwest Conference

[umhb2001]

Unless something drastically changes with the Cru offense we won't be playing in December

Certainly not very far into December, at least. While I'm thrilled that UMHB beat a very good HSU team, I keep waiting for the light to turn on for these inexperienced players on offense, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought Hammack would be the factor that sparked them, but that wasn't the case Saturday (though I'm sure the Cowboy's excellent defense had a lot to do with that). Hopefully they work out the kinks before they get to the playoffs, or they won't make it very far.

The coaches were the problem, not the players.

[UMHB03]

Unless something drastically changes with the Cru offense we won't be playing in December

Certainly not very far into December, at least. While I'm thrilled that UMHB beat a very good HSU team, I keep waiting for the light to turn on for these inexperienced players on offense, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought Hammack would be the factor that sparked them, but that wasn't the case Saturday (though I'm sure the Cowboy's excellent defense had a lot to do with that). Hopefully they work out the kinks before they get to the playoffs, or they won't make it very far.

The coaches were the problem, not the players.

The coaches were certainly a part of it. Very vanilla with the play calling. The OL is pretty sub par though, and we haven't found a bulldozer like Miller this year to offset it.

[Toby Taff]

Unless something drastically changes with the Cru offense we won't be playing in December

Certainly not very far into December, at least. While I'm thrilled that UMHB beat a very good HSU team, I keep waiting for the light to turn on for these inexperienced players on offense, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought Hammack would be the factor that sparked them, but that wasn't the case Saturday (though I'm sure the Cowboy's excellent defense had a lot to do with that). Hopefully they work out the kinks before they get to the playoffs, or they won't make it very far.

The coaches were the problem, not the players.

The coaches were certainly a part of it. Very vanilla with the play calling. The OL is pretty sub par though, and we haven't found a bulldozer like Miller this year to offset it.

And we probably won't Miller was a man fully grown into his body. These guys are still growing. We have a lot of young ones on the team and it'll take time to turn them into producers that the upper classmen of the past 2 years were. I heard some crazy stories Saturday about D and O lines being switched around (d to o and o to d) that'll cause some issues, but even with that, we won. Avila hits the xp and field goal, we're not scrambling for the kick. I'm encouraged that  our raw talent is deep enough to keep getting the wins. Not as impressed with the play calling. I think it should be opened up some, but we don't know the reasons why it's not

[UMHB03]

Agreed. The team is a work in progress, and I'm very happy they won against an excellent team, but they will have to get some thing worked out if they want to be back in Shenandoah this December.

[Etchglow]

Unless something drastically changes with the Cru offense we won't be playing in December

Certainly not very far into December, at least. While I'm thrilled that UMHB beat a very good HSU team, I keep waiting for the light to turn on for these inexperienced players on offense, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought Hammack would be the factor that sparked them, but that wasn't the case Saturday (though I'm sure the Cowboy's excellent defense had a lot to do with that). Hopefully they work out the kinks before they get to the playoffs, or they won't make it very far.

The coaches were the problem, not the players.

The coaches were certainly a part of it. Very vanilla with the play calling. The OL is pretty sub par though, and we haven't found a bulldozer like Miller this year to offset it.

And we probably won't Miller was a man fully grown into his body. These guys are still growing. We have a lot of young ones on the team and it'll take time to turn them into producers that the upper classmen of the past 2 years were. I heard some crazy stories Saturday about D and O lines being switched around (d to o and o to d) that'll cause some issues, but even with that, we won. Avila hits the xp and field goal, we're not scrambling for the kick. I'm encouraged that  our raw talent is deep enough to keep getting the wins. Not as impressed with the play calling. I think it should be opened up some, but we don't know the reasons why it's not

Maybe it runs in the family and Montana will step into those shoes next year.  I was impressed with Duncan's running.  Any word on what kind of injury he is working through?  I also wonder if Nnoli will be coming back next year after being sidelined by injury this year...

[umhb2001]

Unless something drastically changes with the Cru offense we won't be playing in December

Certainly not very far into December, at least. While I'm thrilled that UMHB beat a very good HSU team, I keep waiting for the light to turn on for these inexperienced players on offense, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought Hammack would be the factor that sparked them, but that wasn't the case Saturday (though I'm sure the Cowboy's excellent defense had a lot to do with that). Hopefully they work out the kinks before they get to the playoffs, or they won't make it very far.

The coaches were the problem, not the players.

The coaches were certainly a part of it. Very vanilla with the play calling. The OL is pretty sub par though, and we haven't found a bulldozer like Miller this year to offset it.

Transfer from Linfield and the third Miller were both injured in preseason, so that is why. There are Rb's that are on varsity that were never scheduled to get run. We have been decimated by injuries.

[HSUCowboy2015]

Assuming UMHB beats TLU, is there any chance for a second team to get in from the ASC?

That's a great assumption. We shot ourselves in the foot with 5 turnovers and still had a chance to win the game. UMHB beats TLU by at least 28 points. TLU scores maybe 7 against that UMHB defense.

[wally_wabash]

Unless something drastically changes with the Cru offense we won't be playing in December

Certainly not very far into December, at least. While I'm thrilled that UMHB beat a very good HSU team, I keep waiting for the light to turn on for these inexperienced players on offense, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought Hammack would be the factor that sparked them, but that wasn't the case Saturday (though I'm sure the Cowboy's excellent defense had a lot to do with that). Hopefully they work out the kinks before they get to the playoffs, or they won't make it very far.

The coaches were the problem, not the players.

The coaches were certainly a part of it. Very vanilla with the play calling. The OL is pretty sub par though, and we haven't found a bulldozer like Miller this year to offset it.

Transfer from Linfield and the third Miller were both injured in preseason, so that is why. There are Rb's that are on varsity that were never scheduled to get run. We have been decimated by injuries.

UMHB has a roster that is literally too big to be posted online in its entirety.  The lack of depth thing doesn't play. 

[Etchglow]

Unless something drastically changes with the Cru offense we won't be playing in December

Certainly not very far into December, at least. While I'm thrilled that UMHB beat a very good HSU team, I keep waiting for the light to turn on for these inexperienced players on offense, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought Hammack would be the factor that sparked them, but that wasn't the case Saturday (though I'm sure the Cowboy's excellent defense had a lot to do with that). Hopefully they work out the kinks before they get to the playoffs, or they won't make it very far.

The coaches were the problem, not the players.

The coaches were certainly a part of it. Very vanilla with the play calling. The OL is pretty sub par though, and we haven't found a bulldozer like Miller this year to offset it.

Transfer from Linfield and the third Miller were both injured in preseason, so that is why. There are Rb's that are on varsity that were never scheduled to get run. We have been decimated by injuries.

UMHB has a roster that is literally too big to be posted online in its entirety.  The lack of depth thing doesn't play.

I don't know, through graduation, transfer, injury and suspensions UMHB's didn't manage to start a single skill player who had run/caught the ball at the varsity level outside of last year's 3rd string/jv quarterback who only played against Berry... Thankfully we got Jonel Reed back for some experience... I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen more out of Olan Vinning, coach had really talked him up in several interviews.

[Toby Taff]

Assuming UMHB beats TLU, is there any chance for a second team to get in from the ASC?

That's a great assumption. We shot ourselves in the foot with 5 turnovers and still had a chance to win the game. UMHB beats TLU by at least 28 points. TLU scores maybe 7 against that UMHB defense.

When Hemphill goes for 300+ in an L there has to be some form of implosion. I was there riding the crazy tlu fan wave. Definitely misfired the gun a few times.. BTW if you want a real treat, go to the UMHB game and sit with the TLU fans and enjoy the spectacle. I was having such a good time with the lady telling the ref he needed to "go to confession tomorrow for the at call." Crazy fans are the best!

[Ralph Turner]

TLU lost to Hendrix.

That makes me think that the ASC Pool A bid may have a hard time getting past the 2nd or 3rd round this year.

[umhb2001]

TLU lost to Hendrix.

That makes me think that the ASC Pool A bid may have a hard time getting past the 2nd or 3rd round this year.

I don't think these two things are related at all.

[Ralph Turner]

TLU lost to Hendrix.

That makes me think that the ASC Pool A bid may have a hard time getting past the 2nd or 3rd round this year.

I don't think these two things are related at all.

I would like to think that the conference is stronger than that.

HPU beat Austin College, but hasn't shown much beyond the "middle tier".
ETBU lost by 8 at UW-Plattevile which is 6-1 (3-1) , the only loss being 21-14 at UWW. Was that a fluke?
HSU held off Trinity 16-10 at home.  Trinity is good but not stellar. (HSU's first game; TUTx's 2nd.)

I am having a hard time making the case for stellar.

[umhb2001]

TLU lost to Hendrix.

That makes me think that the ASC Pool A bid may have a hard time getting past the 2nd or 3rd round this year.

I don't think these two things are related at all.

I would like to think that the conference is stronger than that.

HPU beat Austin College, but hasn't shown much beyond the "middle tier".
ETBU lost by 8 at UW-Plattevile which is 6-1 (3-1) , the only loss being 21-14 at UWW. Was that a fluke?
HSU held off Trinity 16-10 at home.  Trinity is good but not stellar. (HSU's first game; TUTx's 2nd.)

I am having a hard time making the case for stellar.

Our conference is what it has always been. I don't think that the conference has been super strong besides HSU and UMHB. UMHB has time to get their offensive identity. We'll see.

[DFWCrufan]

But all of these suppositions, is't this the joy of a division that can flip on a turn? Yeah the Cru run game got smothered, but so did the run game for HSU to some extent last game. Hemphill is a near supernatural gift of a runner but the guys responded, considering his outrageous skill (Someone has got to serious look at him post college career) he didn't continuously find the endzone.
I'd like to see more work going to  Musue, Jonell is just a bit too iffy for me as a primary go to. (2018 stagg bowl touchdown ready pass in his hand and dropped) and really liking Ruckman.
Look, we have three more games to go, let's see how things go, TLU has a pool AQ in their sights and the possibility of grabbing it so another exciting match coming up but I believe the guys will rise up.