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Captainred81

I don't disagree that Redlands should have had a home game in the 1st round, although I understand why they don't. 

I also think it would be better for UMHB to have Martin Luther or some other cupcake in the 1st round, but there is not a team like that in their region.  I gues, sending Huntington or Monmouth would be similar, but the budget doesn't allow.  Regardless, of we all think , the NCAA has allowed 3.18% of their total budget for the D3 Football championship.  I'm sure they have more money somewhere, but this is the budget.  I'm sure there is no one that works for the NCAA finance office sitting around saying, " we could give D3 Football more money, but we don't feel like it."

Anyway, I think Redlands will be a test, and should be a 2nd round match-up at least, but "if chalk holds" you 2nd round game will be against Berry.  Last year you beat Berry 75-9 or something like that.  I would totally call that a cupcake.  Even if on paper it seemed like it should have been close, it was not.  99-100 games you blow that team out of the water!!!

Meanwhile, Mount will play a lesser team in round 1, as it should.  However, its round 2 game will not be 75-9.  They may not even win their round 2 game.  Calling their path an easy one, crazy talk. 
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: Captainred81 on November 18, 2019, 04:43:33 PM
Regardless, of we all think , the NCAA has allowed 3.18% of their total budget for the D3 Football championship. 

It's actually worse than this -- 3.18% of the budget covers all of Division III, all championships, all grants, all programs for schools and conferences and student-athletes.
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SW66

This time of the year is always fun. Most games during the year you kinda know what to expect but the playoffs are a whole different animal.

TheChucker

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2019, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: Captainred81 on November 18, 2019, 04:43:33 PM
Regardless, of we all think , the NCAA has allowed 3.18% of their total budget for the D3 Football championship. 

It's actually worse than this -- 3.18% of the budget covers all of Division III, all championships, all grants, all programs for schools and conferences and student-athletes.

Back in the days when scores of schools were converting from NAIA to NCAA D3 (1980s-90s), one of the main reasons given was paid travel for playoffs even though it apparently can be more expensive to run an NCAA program. This whole travel cost issue must be a big deal. Still, it makes one wonder if D3 schools, especially island schools in the West and Southwest, are getting a net benefit from being an NCAA member? I know this digresses from playoff talk, but the whole travel issue caused me ponder the subject.   

Ralph Turner

Quote from: TheChucker on November 18, 2019, 11:04:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 18, 2019, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: Captainred81 on November 18, 2019, 04:43:33 PM
Regardless, of we all think , the NCAA has allowed 3.18% of their total budget for the D3 Football championship. 

It's actually worse than this -- 3.18% of the budget covers all of Division III, all championships, all grants, all programs for schools and conferences and student-athletes.

Back in the days when scores of schools were converting from NAIA to NCAA D3 (1980s-90s), one of the main reasons given was paid travel for playoffs even though it apparently can be more expensive to run an NCAA program. This whole travel cost issue must be a big deal. Still, it makes one wonder if D3 schools, especially island schools in the West and Southwest, are getting a net benefit from being an NCAA member? I know this digresses from playoff talk, but the whole travel issue caused me ponder the subject.
In this part of the country, the question of NCAA D3 vs NAIA is one of panache and the company that you keep.

D3 is much more prestigeous, and travel IS STILL a big deal.

SW66

I know coach Fred is not going anywhere unt ikl he calls it quits but if he ever decides to hang it up, which coach should the Cru go after? 2 that come to mind that came from the Texas coaching ranks would be coach Bell who is at Baylor right now or coach Dodge who is at Westlake right now. Both are very offensive minded and would take UMHB to the next level offensively. Most believe Harmon would be promoted but I believe he should keep that defense rolling as DC. What say you?

Pat Coleman

I have never worked in an NAIA athletic department, but my understanding is that there is also cost savings to being an NCAA member and having access to the catastrophic injury insurance.
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SW66

Well if I read it correctly it looks like scholarships alone for D1 athletes alone make up for more than is allocated to D2 and D3 for all of their programs combined.And that is just for scholarships and nothing else. Thats insane to think that both D2 and D3 have almost 3 times as many students but less than 10 percent of the pie. They need to hire some better lawyers and bargain harder.

jknezek

Quote from: SW66 on November 19, 2019, 11:39:23 AM
Well if I read it correctly it looks like scholarships alone for D1 athletes alone make up for more than is allocated to D2 and D3 for all of their programs combined.And that is just for scholarships and nothing else. Thats insane to think that both D2 and D3 have almost 3 times as many students but less than 10 percent of the pie. They need to hire some better lawyers and bargain harder.

All the money essentially comes from the D1 basketball tournament. If the other divisions push harder, the P5 and whoever gets invited to go with them will leave and take all the money and D2 and D3 will have nothing for their tournaments.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: SW66 on November 19, 2019, 10:26:07 AM
I know coach Fred is not going anywhere unt ikl he calls it quits but if he ever decides to hang it up, which coach should the Cru go after? 2 that come to mind that came from the Texas coaching ranks would be coach Bell who is at Baylor right now or coach Dodge who is at Westlake right now. Both are very offensive minded and would take UMHB to the next level offensively. Most believe Harmon would be promoted but I believe he should keep that defense rolling as DC. What say you?

Would probably be a pay cut for either of them, so you would have to have someone motivated to lead a prominent small school program in exchange for earning less.  Dodge was not successful as a college coach, but he was at UNT where he didn't have the embarrassing wealth of resources he's had both stops of his high school career (Southlake Carroll and Westlake are both *very* affluent schools with a boatload of fundraising).   According to USA Today Dodge was making $150K at the end of 2018, and I imagine Bell makes at least that.

roocru

Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 19, 2019, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: SW66 on November 19, 2019, 10:26:07 AM
I know coach Fred is not going anywhere unt ikl he calls it quits but if he ever decides to hang it up, which coach should the Cru go after? 2 that come to mind that came from the Texas coaching ranks would be coach Bell who is at Baylor right now or coach Dodge who is at Westlake right now. Both are very offensive minded and would take UMHB to the next level offensively. Most believe Harmon would be promoted but I believe he should keep that defense rolling as DC. What say you?

Would probably be a pay cut for either of them, so you would have to have someone motivated to lead a prominent small school program in exchange for earning less.  Dodge was not successful as a college coach, but he was at UNT where he didn't have the embarrassing wealth of resources he's had both stops of his high school career (Southlake Carroll and Westlake are both *very* affluent schools with a boatload of fundraising).   According to USA Today Dodge was making $150K at the end of 2018, and I imagine Bell makes at least that.

Why shouldn't Coach Harmon get a shot?  He has been there since the beginning and has been the number one assistant for many years.  It seems to me that someone with the knowledge of stopping high powered offenses might know something about running one. He has been part of making the Cru what they are today and would likely be able to continue their success, In my book, loyalty should go a long way and until he proves he cannot maintain that current status, he remains my number one choice!
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crufootball

Quote from: roocru on November 19, 2019, 06:21:57 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 19, 2019, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: SW66 on November 19, 2019, 10:26:07 AM
I know coach Fred is not going anywhere unt ikl he calls it quits but if he ever decides to hang it up, which coach should the Cru go after? 2 that come to mind that came from the Texas coaching ranks would be coach Bell who is at Baylor right now or coach Dodge who is at Westlake right now. Both are very offensive minded and would take UMHB to the next level offensively. Most believe Harmon would be promoted but I believe he should keep that defense rolling as DC. What say you?

Would probably be a pay cut for either of them, so you would have to have someone motivated to lead a prominent small school program in exchange for earning less.  Dodge was not successful as a college coach, but he was at UNT where he didn't have the embarrassing wealth of resources he's had both stops of his high school career (Southlake Carroll and Westlake are both *very* affluent schools with a boatload of fundraising).   According to USA Today Dodge was making $150K at the end of 2018, and I imagine Bell makes at least that.

Why shouldn't Coach Harmon get a shot?  He has been there since the beginning and has been the number one assistant for many years.  It seems to me that someone with the knowledge of stopping high powered offenses might know something about running one. He has been part of making the Cru what they are today and would likely be able to continue their success, In my book, loyalty should go a long way and until he proves he cannot maintain that current status, he remains my number one choice!

If it is not him and he wants the job, I would think we would also need a new DC, at least that is how I would feel.

Etchglow

Quote from: crufootball on November 19, 2019, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: roocru on November 19, 2019, 06:21:57 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 19, 2019, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: SW66 on November 19, 2019, 10:26:07 AM
I know coach Fred is not going anywhere unt ikl he calls it quits but if he ever decides to hang it up, which coach should the Cru go after? 2 that come to mind that came from the Texas coaching ranks would be coach Bell who is at Baylor right now or coach Dodge who is at Westlake right now. Both are very offensive minded and would take UMHB to the next level offensively. Most believe Harmon would be promoted but I believe he should keep that defense rolling as DC. What say you?

Would probably be a pay cut for either of them, so you would have to have someone motivated to lead a prominent small school program in exchange for earning less.  Dodge was not successful as a college coach, but he was at UNT where he didn't have the embarrassing wealth of resources he's had both stops of his high school career (Southlake Carroll and Westlake are both *very* affluent schools with a boatload of fundraising).   According to USA Today Dodge was making $150K at the end of 2018, and I imagine Bell makes at least that.

Why shouldn't Coach Harmon get a shot?  He has been there since the beginning and has been the number one assistant for many years.  It seems to me that someone with the knowledge of stopping high powered offenses might know something about running one. He has been part of making the Cru what they are today and would likely be able to continue their success, In my book, loyalty should go a long way and until he proves he cannot maintain that current status, he remains my number one choice!

If it is not him and he wants the job, I would think we would also need a new DC, at least that is how I would feel.

He did a pretty good job last year when coach Fred was suspended too.

SW66

Quote from: roocru on November 19, 2019, 06:21:57 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 19, 2019, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: SW66 on November 19, 2019, 10:26:07 AM
I know coach Fred is not going anywhere unt ikl he calls it quits but if he ever decides to hang it up, which coach should the Cru go after? 2 that come to mind that came from the Texas coaching ranks would be coach Bell who is at Baylor right now or coach Dodge who is at Westlake right now. Both are very offensive minded and would take UMHB to the next level offensively. Most believe Harmon would be promoted but I believe he should keep that defense rolling as DC. What say you?

Would probably be a pay cut for either of them, so you would have to have someone motivated to lead a prominent small school program in exchange for earning less.  Dodge was not successful as a college coach, but he was at UNT where he didn't have the embarrassing wealth of resources he's had both stops of his high school career (Southlake Carroll and Westlake are both *very* affluent schools with a boatload of fundraising).   According to USA Today Dodge was making $150K at the end of 2018, and I imagine Bell makes at least that.

Why shouldn't Coach Harmon get a shot?  He has been there since the beginning and has been the number one assistant for many years.  It seems to me that someone with the knowledge of stopping high powered offenses might know something about running one. He has been part of making the Cru what they are today and would likely be able to continue their success, In my book, loyalty should go a long way and until he proves he cannot maintain that current status, he remains my number one choice!
Then he needs to look into a young offensive minded OC with some ideas to utilize our team speed and athletes. We have some talent right here in Central Texas that would be great. And some talented athletes also.

umhb2001

Watching the Redlands at Chapman game. It is still available on the Chapman website.

Redlands's defense looks pretty physical. They have some heady players and some good size.

The QB for The Bulldogs looks like a high school player. He could get hurt Saturday. They've done nothing against the Chapman D in the first half. I'm thinking 42-14 in favor of The Cru.
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