FB: American Southwest Conference

[umhb2001]

Ryan Redding is the most prepared #2 we've had. His grasp of the concepts and ability to see the field has paved the way for him to own QB1B. He would start for most other teams in the conference. His patience and faithfulness is paying huge dividends. HE was the player of the game yesterday, and I would say the most important player on the offensive side of the ball going into the playoffs. I suspect he will play most of the game next Saturday as well.

If Kyle is fully healthy, I expect him to knock of some rust, but I bet Ryan will play the majority of the game. McMurry is middle of the road as far as defenses in the ASC, so they will do some things to test us. I look forward to seeing this game.

[Etchglow]

On another note, that kick return formation with Tommy Bowden deep, then KJ Miller and Aaron Sims as secondary returners was intriguing. That is a whole lot of explosiveness back there at once.

[Toby Taff]

What happened?

Your QB #2 went 21-28 for 307 yards and rushed for another 98 yards. Hey CRU your QB#2 just went off today!  Kj miller then had 12 receptions on the day which is a new school record.
Your defense just took care of the number #1 rushing offense last week and the number #1 passing offense in the conference this week. We fell behind today and our offense then managed to score 59 unanswered points and 616 yards of offense against a 6-2 much improved howard payne squad! You now have 2 very good quarterbacks going into tbe playoffs!

Thats what just happened!  Playoffs should be exciting!

Agreed! I think the oversight is from our embarassment of riches. Ryan was definitely player of the game PoG Sturday. King was right below me on the sideline so I spent a lot of  time watching him. during the quick start by HPU He was pacing, standing with his helmet on at one point, like he was willing to be the savior to settle things down. Once the Offense settled in, he relaxed and was standing there tossing the ball in the air. You could tell he had every confidence in the offense. As 2001 said, We are better prepared at the #2 spot  than I can remember, and really with only 2 games worth of snaps with the 1s!

[Reverendbiker]

Don't know when King will be back at QB1, but it's obvious that the Cru are in good hands with Redding.  His two starts this year were against quality opponents and he passed every test.  He makes a great QB2 because he's a decent enough passer, a great runner, and he's got plenty of experience.  I remember seeing him in his first varsity action in the 2018 playoffs against Berry when he broke one up the middle for about 60 yds.  He's played through a playoff season and a Stagg Bowl so he won't be intimidated by the big stage.  He's played in 7 games this season and has thrown no INT's, which is remarkable for a QB2. I still think Kyle's the man if he's healthy, but I'll sleep well knowing that Ryan is under center.

[justafan12]

Didn't get a chance to watch the Cru today but based on score it looks like it was a blowout.

I was expecting to see a close score, did the Cru show up today or did HPU not play as well as thought?

I think HPU was just not that good. They got a running start at the season feasting on weaker teams, but when faced with better competition they've lost 3 straight by increasing amounts to increasingly better teams. Their first 6 games were against teams averaging 3 wins... the only one above .500 is ETBU. So they are 1-3 against the only winning teams they've faced.

Nail on the head!!!

They were over rated based on the points they put up against lesser teams.  First 6 games they averaged 47 ppg.  Last 3 games, 13 ppg. Their schedule was back loaded with the tougher teams in the ASC. 

[Ralph Turner]

I checked Louisiana College to see how they were doing in their first season in the Sooner Athletic Conference for football. (They participate in the Red River AC for other sports.)

https://www.lcwildcats.net/sports/football/schedule

They are 3-7 with one game remaining against Texas College, which they should win.

LaCollege has scaled back its athletic programs to 5 men's and 4 women's sports. (FB/VB, M/W Hoops, M/W Soccer, Baseball/Softball, and Men's Golf).

[justafan12]

Centenary bringing back/starting up football.


https://gocentenary.com/general/2021-22/releases/202111101o6suj

[Ralph Turner]

Centenary bringing back/starting up football.


https://gocentenary.com/general/2021-22/releases/202111101o6suj

IMHO, the SAA makes more sense for them. But, it gives us one more team in this part of the country.

Hmm

TUTX, AC, TLU, SW, Centenary...

Is there enough interest in St Thomas to start and Schreiner to resume football?

That would leave the ASC with UMHB, HSU, ETBU, HPU, Belhaven, McMurry and SRSU.

[crufootball]

Centenary bringing back/starting up football.


https://gocentenary.com/general/2021-22/releases/202111101o6suj

IMHO, the SAA makes more sense for them. But, it gives us one more team in this part of the country.

Hmm

TUTX, AC, TLU, SW, Centenary...

Is there enough interest in St Thomas to start and Schreiner to resume football?

That would leave the ASC with UMHB, HSU, ETBU, HPU, Belhaven, McMurry and SRSU.

You are probably right about the SAA but man as a humble graduate from a non selective school it sure does seem to make a lot more sense financially to be in the ASC. They could have a natural rivalry in ETBU and most of there games would be closer to home.

I know it won't happen but lets go on the offensive ASC, lets get Centenary and go get Trinity who passes multiple ASC schools on their long bus trips to their SAA and SCAC opponents.

[Ron Boerger]

Trinity flies to out-of-state SAA/SCAC games, and Trinity has no interest in the ASC or they would have joined long ago. 

I doubt the SAA is terribly interested in Centenary, to be honest.  Their academics would toward bottom range of the SAA (which is a big deal to them, one reason they broke off from the SCAC which was admitting a number of schools they considered beneath them) and it seems unlikely those schools would want to add a trip to LA to their annual pilgrimage to TX.   I also can't see the SCAC restarting football, they tried hard to get more schools involved before folding up the tents last time and money's not growing on trees in Kerrville or Houston (though St. Thomas probably does have the resources if it wanted to start).  Would the ASC want them if it meant no more out-of-conference games?   

Now, there is a proposal to only need SIX schools to get a bid.  If that happens then maybe the SCAC restarts football.  With Centenary not starting until 2024 there's time to work on St. Thomas.

[CowboyAlum261]

Trinity flies to out-of-state SAA/SCAC games, and Trinity has no interest in the ASC or they would have joined long ago. 

I doubt the SAA is terribly interested in Centenary, to be honest.  Their academics would toward bottom range of the SAA (which is a big deal to them, one reason they broke off from the SCAC which was admitting a number of schools they considered beneath them) and it seems unlikely those schools would want to add a trip to LA to their annual pilgrimage to TX.   I also can't see the SCAC restarting football, they tried hard to get more schools involved before folding up the tents last time and money's not growing on trees in Kerrville or Houston (though St. Thomas probably does have the resources if it wanted to start).  Would the ASC want them if it meant no more out-of-conference games?   

Now, there is a proposal to only need SIX schools to get a bid.  If that happens then maybe the SCAC restarts football.  With Centenary not starting until 2024 there's time to work on St. Thomas.

Actually with Southwestern set to leave the ASC in 2023 it would make perfect sense for Centenary to step into their spot and allow the ASC to stay at 10 teams.

[Ron Boerger]

Good point '261, +1.

I had another thought - if the ASC offers them a home in football, do they leave the SCAC altogether and rejoin the ASC?

[Ralph Turner]

Trinity flies to out-of-state SAA/SCAC games, and Trinity has no interest in the ASC or they would have joined long ago. 

I doubt the SAA is terribly interested in Centenary, to be honest.  Their academics would toward bottom range of the SAA (which is a big deal to them, one reason they broke off from the SCAC which was admitting a number of schools they considered beneath them) and it seems unlikely those schools would want to add a trip to LA to their annual pilgrimage to TX.   I also can't see the SCAC restarting football, they tried hard to get more schools involved before folding up the tents last time and money's not growing on trees in Kerrville or Houston (though St. Thomas probably does have the resources if it wanted to start).  Would the ASC want them if it meant no more out-of-conference games?   

Now, there is a proposal to only need SIX schools to get a bid.  If that happens then maybe the SCAC restarts football.  With Centenary not starting until 2024 there's time to work on St. Thomas.

Thanks Ron.

Of course college enrollment dynamics have changed drastically in the last 3-5 years. Centenary needs to the students.

[crufootball]

Trinity flies to out-of-state SAA/SCAC games, and Trinity has no interest in the ASC or they would have joined long ago. 

I doubt the SAA is terribly interested in Centenary, to be honest.  Their academics would toward bottom range of the SAA (which is a big deal to them, one reason they broke off from the SCAC which was admitting a number of schools they considered beneath them) and it seems unlikely those schools would want to add a trip to LA to their annual pilgrimage to TX.   I also can't see the SCAC restarting football, they tried hard to get more schools involved before folding up the tents last time and money's not growing on trees in Kerrville or Houston (though St. Thomas probably does have the resources if it wanted to start).  Would the ASC want them if it meant no more out-of-conference games?   

Now, there is a proposal to only need SIX schools to get a bid.  If that happens then maybe the SCAC restarts football.  With Centenary not starting until 2024 there's time to work on St. Thomas.

Wow, I knew Trinity had some deep pockets but that is 3 flights this year and I assume more next year when games flip from home this year.

[Ron Boerger]

Yup.  The other reason the SAA broke off from the SCAC was the travel costs were killing them, because to get from KY/TN/GA (or IN in the DePauw/RHIT days) to TX in a timely manner you have no choice but to fly and that adds up in a hurry when you're doing it in a dozen or more sports.   

Coach Urban said at one point that he uses the flights as a recruiting hook.  The school doesn't have the kind of deep-pocketed athletic supporters UMHB does (nobody named McLane, LOL) but they rounded up enough to finally get the stadium to be a representative D3 facility and do a few other things.  Most of the non-football teams will also take a flight for some sort of games or tournament outside of conference play and sometimes more than one, annual fundraising covers some of those costs and distributions from the endowment, very substantial for a school of 2700, probably covers the rest.