FB: American Southwest Conference

[Etchglow]

So, I know that Ozias Wright has played in a lot of late game situations the last two games... But he is UMHB's 2nd rusher with 231 yards in 16 attempts. Cormier has 261 on 69 attempts.

[HooyahCowboys76]

Hawkins is a D2 transfer from Henderson State, which is a very good program. HSU should be doing just fine with him. Undoubtedly, not having Glynn - a senior - hurts from both a leadership perspective and an offensive perspective, but this team should be beating McMurry by 10 minimum regardless of who is lining up behind center. Remember - HSU beat La Crosse with Glynn only throwing for 198 and 0 Tds. If they don't figure things out, UMHB - yes, 2-3 UMHB (probably 4-3 UMHB come game week) - is going to steamroll them.

Hawkins left because they didn't believe he could be a Qb at the next level. He didn't want a position change so he came to Hsu where he would be given the opportunity to still play QB. Glynn won the job over him entering last season. When our offensive coordinator chooses his guy he sticks with them like no other. I've witnessed us throwing 3-4 interceptions with a QB and not sitting him multiple occasions over the years. This years offense was formed around him and with him not there we have changed our complete  identity on offense. We obviously don't trust him to make throws down the field. Lots of short stuff to the flats. You can also take into account this is a large rivalry game and Jordan Neil is an Hsu grad so that adds some spice to it as well. Continue to think y'all are improving and we will get steamrolled, but as I stated before if 12 is back we will be fine. D3 isn't covered enough to know all the back stories to make irrational takes such as yours. If you don't truly have skin in the game with a team you don't know what could be going on with a game or program. 

[Riley Zayas]

Cru looked great today and sent TLU out in style. They got to tuck their tails and run for their new conference where they will continue to get dominated unless they are able to really do some great recruiting.

It is this arrogance that is UMHB's problem.  TLU is not the school running and tucking their tails.  TLU is sticking with the ASU in football as long as they can (through next season so the "CREW" can kick their ass again) and providing the Baptist four a lifeline.  My understanding, TLU was the one school that was looking to move to the ASU but realized that was futile. Yeesh!!!  We get it...UMHB is good at football.  TLU's athletics department works really hard at giving their student athletes a complete experience while being competitive at the D3 level.  Don't trash what you don't understand and enjoy your win.

Yeah I can confirm just about all of this. TLU didn't have to stay in the ASC. They probably could've figured something out with the SCAC to go next year. But they opted to stick around when they didn't have to. Neil LaHue is doing a phenomenal job with that program AND TLU didn't have Seth Cosme today. Not taking away anything from UMHB's win but facts need to be kept straight. TLU isn't running away from the ASC. In fact, you could make the case that they're the only non-Baptist 4 school that isn't running away. The exact reasons behind their decision to stay in the ASC next year, I do not know, but I know that TLU is well-respected across D3 and within the Texas D3 community.

I'd also add...yes, we talk about football on this board. But there's more to college athletics than football. TLU softball is one of the nation's best programs, regularly ranked in the Top 5. Their track & field programs are often very competitive on a national scale, and their baseball program is one of the best in Texas amongst D3 programs. As an athletic department, I'd say they're doing just fine.

[tigerguy]

Hawkins left because they didn't believe he could be a Qb at the next level. He didn't want a position change so he came to Hsu where he would be given the opportunity to still play QB. Glynn won the job over him entering last season. When our offensive coordinator chooses his guy he sticks with them like no other. I've witnessed us throwing 3-4 interceptions with a QB and not sitting him multiple occasions over the years. This years offense was formed around him and with him not there we have changed our complete  identity on offense. We obviously don't trust him to make throws down the field. Lots of short stuff to the flats. You can also take into account this is a large rivalry game and Jordan Neil is an Hsu grad so that adds some spice to it as well. Continue to think y'all are improving and we will get steamrolled, but as I stated before if 12 is back we will be fine. D3 isn't covered enough to know all the back stories to make irrational takes such as yours. If you don't truly have skin in the game with a team you don't know what could be going on with a game or program.

I am by no means a UMHB fan, which your post suggests you think I am. I also don't know which part of my post you think is an irrational take. I don't think it is at all irrational to suggest that UMHB will steamroll HSU if the Cowboys play the way they did last night. I do apreciate you adding that insight about Hawkins (assuming its true), which I was unaware of; and yes, I agree that we don't always get the backstories about D3 players, especially transfers. But, I maintain that HSU should be able to curb stomp McMurry with anyone at QB. There has been only one other game between McMurry and HSU in the last eight years that was decided by less than 18 points, with most over 30, easily. Their failure to do so is concerning to me - a third party observer who has watched both Texas conferences for years - for their game against UMHB, no matter who is back there. I want all Texas teams to succeed, but I'm just calling it like I see it. I do hope y'all turn things around, though.

[jekelish]

Cru looked great today and sent TLU out in style. They got to tuck their tails and run for their new conference where they will continue to get dominated unless they are able to really do some great recruiting.

It is this arrogance that is UMHB's problem.  TLU is not the school running and tucking their tails.  TLU is sticking with the ASU in football as long as they can (through next season so the "CREW" can kick their ass again) and providing the Baptist four a lifeline.  My understanding, TLU was the one school that was looking to move to the ASU but realized that was futile. Yeesh!!!  We get it...UMHB is good at football.  TLU's athletics department works really hard at giving their student athletes a complete experience while being competitive at the D3 level.  Don't trash what you don't understand and enjoy your win.

Yeah I can confirm just about all of this. TLU didn't have to stay in the ASC. They probably could've figured something out with the SCAC to go next year. But they opted to stick around when they didn't have to. Neil LaHue is doing a phenomenal job with that program AND TLU didn't have Seth Cosme today. Not taking away anything from UMHB's win but facts need to be kept straight. TLU isn't running away from the ASC. In fact, you could make the case that they're the only non-Baptist 4 school that isn't running away. The exact reasons behind their decision to stay in the ASC next year, I do not know, but I know that TLU is well-respected across D3 and within the Texas D3 community.

I'd also add...yes, we talk about football on this board. But there's more to college athletics than football. TLU softball is one of the nation's best programs, regularly ranked in the Top 5. Their track & field programs are often very competitive on a national scale, and their baseball program is one of the best in Texas amongst D3 programs. As an athletic department, I'd say they're doing just fine.

I'm not a TLU guy but yeah, add the fact their men's soccer team is currently undefeated and nationally ranked (and they've beaten Trinity, UT-Dallas, and yes, UMHB), their volleyball team is currently receiving votes in the AVCA Top 25 and have won six straight by scores of 3-0, their MBKB team has one four of the last nine SCAC Championships, their WBKB team has won two of the last 10... yeah, it's fair to say their department is doing pretty damn well, overall.

[CRULive1845]

So, I know that Ozias Wright has played in a lot of late game situations the last two games... But he is UMHB's 2nd rusher with 231 yards in 16 attempts. Cormier has 261 on 69 attempts.

Possibly skews the numbers, but is he seeing it better than than the other backs? Haven't really been able to watch many games this year.

Do know most of his yards have come against lesser comp than the 1st 3 games, but then again he really didn't get any run during those games I don't think.

[UMHB03]

Hawkins is a D2 transfer from Henderson State, which is a very good program. HSU should be doing just fine with him. Undoubtedly, not having Glynn - a senior - hurts from both a leadership perspective and an offensive perspective, but this team should be beating McMurry by 10 minimum regardless of who is lining up behind center. Remember - HSU beat La Crosse with Glynn only throwing for 198 and 0 Tds. If they don't figure things out, UMHB - yes, 2-3 UMHB (probably 4-3 UMHB come game week) - is going to steamroll them.

Hawkins left because they didn't believe he could be a Qb at the next level. He didn't want a position change so he came to Hsu where he would be given the opportunity to still play QB. Glynn won the job over him entering last season. When our offensive coordinator chooses his guy he sticks with them like no other. I've witnessed us throwing 3-4 interceptions with a QB and not sitting him multiple occasions over the years. This years offense was formed around him and with him not there we have changed our complete  identity on offense. We obviously don't trust him to make throws down the field. Lots of short stuff to the flats. You can also take into account this is a large rivalry game and Jordan Neil is an Hsu grad so that adds some spice to it as well. Continue to think y'all are improving and we will get steamrolled, but as I stated before if 12 is back we will be fine. D3 isn't covered enough to know all the back stories to make irrational takes such as yours. If you don't truly have skin in the game with a team you don't know what could be going on with a game or program.

What's the deal with Glynn? Didn't he play last week? When did he get hurt again?

[tigerguy]

What's the deal with Glynn? Didn't he play last week? When did he get hurt again?

Nope didn't play last week. I believe he hurt his knee early in the game against Endicott, tried to tough it out another series or two, and then they pulled him. Prior update on his status from the 28th was that he was just "day-to-day," which makes it sound like it thankfully wasn't an ACL or anything season-ending. So, he should hopefully have a game or two to get back in a rhythm before y'alls game on the 28th.

[Etchglow]

So, I know that Ozias Wright has played in a lot of late game situations the last two games... But he is UMHB's 2nd rusher with 231 yards in 16 attempts. Cormier has 261 on 69 attempts.

Possibly skews the numbers, but is he seeing it better than than the other backs? Haven't really been able to watch many games this year.

Do know most of his yards have come against lesser comp than the 1st 3 games, but then again he really didn't get any run during those games I don't think.

He had runs of 32, 9, 86, 4 (called back because of holding), 14, 12, 2,6 and 0.


32 yard rush:

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxZL0-C1sPc0eALG2VpXHt_RMwz1nmMqvF?si=GlEo6lAE5K0tlkda

86 yard rush: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxSb8kuCjjv53o3DP7IucQj70rageo-h4_?si=1MlBygMoUgJgtgmP

[umhb2001]

Cru looked great today and sent TLU out in style. They got to tuck their tails and run for their new conference where they will continue to get dominated unless they are able to really do some great recruiting.

It is this arrogance that is UMHB's problem.  TLU is not the school running and tucking their tails.  TLU is sticking with the ASU in football as long as they can (through next season so the "CREW" can kick their ass again) and providing the Baptist four a lifeline.  My understanding, TLU was the one school that was looking to move to the ASU but realized that was futile. Yeesh!!!  We get it...UMHB is good at football.  TLU's athletics department works really hard at giving their student athletes a complete experience while being competitive at the D3 level.  Don't trash what you don't understand and enjoy your win.

Arrogance? Have you read any of my other posts!?

The problem is we are getting St. Thomased, except in an opposite fashion. Also, not arrogance to be mad that all of the other teams are leaving for greener pastures to get away from UMHB and HSU. How is that arrogance. It's obvious what is happening.

BTW, what is ASU?

[UMHB03]

What's the deal with Glynn? Didn't he play last week? When did he get hurt again?

Nope didn't play last week. I believe he hurt his knee early in the game against Endicott, tried to tough it out another series or two, and then they pulled him. Prior update on his status from the 28th was that he was just "day-to-day," which makes it sound like it thankfully wasn't an ACL or anything season-ending. So, he should hopefully have a game or two to get back in a rhythm before y'alls game on the 28th.

Gotcha.

I saw that HSU scored 40 points in that game and just assumed that he played.

[CRULive1845]

So, I know that Ozias Wright has played in a lot of late game situations the last two games... But he is UMHB's 2nd rusher with 231 yards in 16 attempts. Cormier has 261 on 69 attempts.

Possibly skews the numbers, but is he seeing it better than than the other backs? Haven't really been able to watch many games this year.

Do know most of his yards have come against lesser comp than the 1st 3 games, but then again he really didn't get any run during those games I don't think.

He had runs of 32, 9, 86, 4 (called back because of holding), 14, 12, 2,6 and 0.


32 yard rush:

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxZL0-C1sPc0eALG2VpXHt_RMwz1nmMqvF?si=GlEo6lAE5K0tlkda

86 yard rush: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxSb8kuCjjv53o3DP7IucQj70rageo-h4_?si=1MlBygMoUgJgtgmP

Thank you for the links! See I can watch the whole game from here!

[Etchglow]

So, I know that Ozias Wright has played in a lot of late game situations the last two games... But he is UMHB's 2nd rusher with 231 yards in 16 attempts. Cormier has 261 on 69 attempts.

Possibly skews the numbers, but is he seeing it better than than the other backs? Haven't really been able to watch many games this year.

Do know most of his yards have come against lesser comp than the 1st 3 games, but then again he really didn't get any run during those games I don't think.

He had runs of 32, 9, 86, 4 (called back because of holding), 14, 12, 2,6 and 0.


32 yard rush:

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxZL0-C1sPc0eALG2VpXHt_RMwz1nmMqvF?si=GlEo6lAE5K0tlkda

86 yard rush: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxSb8kuCjjv53o3DP7IucQj70rageo-h4_?si=1MlBygMoUgJgtgmP

Thank you for the links! See I can watch the whole game from here!

Yeah, now if we could just watch the home games after the fact...


Edit: Here is a link to the gallery from Saturday I took: https://williambrown.smugmug.com/Football/College/2023-UMHB-Football/UMHB-vs-TLU/


This is my favorite:  Missed getting the actual catch by about .5 second...

[Riley Zayas]

Cru looked great today and sent TLU out in style. They got to tuck their tails and run for their new conference where they will continue to get dominated unless they are able to really do some great recruiting.

It is this arrogance that is UMHB's problem.  TLU is not the school running and tucking their tails.  TLU is sticking with the ASU in football as long as they can (through next season so the "CREW" can kick their ass again) and providing the Baptist four a lifeline.  My understanding, TLU was the one school that was looking to move to the ASU but realized that was futile. Yeesh!!!  We get it...UMHB is good at football.  TLU's athletics department works really hard at giving their student athletes a complete experience while being competitive at the D3 level.  Don't trash what you don't understand and enjoy your win.

Arrogance? Have you read any of my other posts!?

The problem is we are getting St. Thomased, except in an opposite fashion. Also, not arrogance to be mad that all of the other teams are leaving for greener pastures to get away from UMHB and HSU. How is that arrogance. It's obvious what is happening.

BTW, what is ASU?

I have mixed thoughts on the continued opinion that the only reason that the ASC is falling apart is because of schools not wanting to play UMHB and HSU in football. Sure, that's definitely part of it. But the only reason? I don't know. It wouldn't have been very hard for the ASC presidents to come together and kick UMHB out, like they did to St. Thomas. After all, if UMHB and HSU are the only problem, that tells me the majority of the conference would have sided with giving UMHB (and HSU) the boot.

At the end of the day, the ASC leadership waited too long. The SCAC used to have football...and it was pretty easy to see that the goal was to bring football back, especially with several schools positioning themselves to add football in an effort to bring more students ahead of the 2026 enrollment cliff. The ASC leadership didn't have to let this happen. They could've continued to build the league especially when LC and Belhaven decided to leave. They weren't in the danger zone at that point. But did anything happen? Nope. They just let the numbers dwindle until we reached the point where we are today.

If you look at the current football schools leaving, two are simply returning to the conference they're full members in (they have no choice but to return as long as the SCAC is sponsoring football), one is joining a league that aligns MUCH better with its institutional goals and approach to athletics, and one is moving to D2 because they're in a bad spot with declining enrollment and it's been proven that offering athletic aid can boost enrollment. Not sure that UMHB and HSU were the sole reasons for the departure of those 4. But that's just my $0.02.

[Ron Boerger]

On today's podcast, Pat and Greg mentioned that Belhaven, which has a decent shot at going 10-0 after this week's dominant win over Huntingdon, is within 500 miles of UMHB (but not Trinity), which would set up the possibility of the Cru going there should they win the ASC rather than the expected ASC champion-Trinity pairing in the first round.   Maryville (TN). at 4-1, is the only team currently with a winning record left on the Blazers' schedule.