FB: American Southwest Conference

Bill McCabe · September 23, 2005, 04:51:10 PM

It doesn't really matter where TLU is ranked right now. What matters is that they win some games, then they will be ranked. I think they will have to beat HSU to make the playoffs. I don't think 3 losses will look that great.

Ron Boerger · September 23, 2005, 05:09:52 PM

A awful lot of things are going to have to break right for TLU to make the playoffs even if they do somehow beat HSU. After seeing both play the last two weekends, I don't see TLU doing it. 7-3 and playoffs? No way whatsoever.

Another complication for TLU is the SCAC situation. Let's say the DU-TU game is not rescheduled, both DePauw and Trinity end up winning out, DePauw wins the (yet to be decided) tiebreaker. 9-0 Trinity would get a pool C over 8-2 TLU, especially given that they won the week 2 matchup. 8-1 DU vs. 8-2 TLU would be a close call, esp. if Wesley makes it to the playoffs again (DU almost beat Wesley in week 1). You guys may not like the way that sounds, but TLU doesn't have much more of a reputation than DePauw (yet). That second loss, even tho it's a loss to a quality team, is going to hurt TLU's QoW index.

Bill McCabe · September 23, 2005, 05:31:29 PM

I agree Ron. They don't get in with 3 losses, but 8-2 might do it with losses only to UMHB and Trinity. Will the at large teams be picked by their region or will the best teams be placed in any region for the playo?

Ron Boerger · September 23, 2005, 05:35:44 PM

They pick the best remaining teams (after the pool A's and B's are selected) for pool C's. THEN they worry about sticking the teams into what we used to call regions.

I don't see them giving the ASC two pool Cs if the SCAC gets one. A 9-0 or 8-1 Trinity will have the edge over an 8-2 TLU. 8-1 DePauw would be arguable.

dsc · September 23, 2005, 07:08:17 PM

Absolutely amazing!!!

We haven't even played three games yet and there is talk about the playoffs, records, poll rankings, etc.

And most options assume that TLU and/or UMHB will beat HSU! Must I remind everyone that HSU is the defending ASC Champion? (Undefeated in conference play last year!)

Just thought I'd remind everyone of that fact!

Go Cowboys!

Spirit_of_66 · September 23, 2005, 07:13:09 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2005, 02:35:45 PM
Norman,

What Ron said. We couldn't care less what Don Hansen ranks teams as.

Dude, you guys are vicious. Lighten up Francis. DHFG is the best made up one person's ranking in the country. But remember, somehow this guy has been doing it for longer than this site, so he must have a little bit going for him.

Remember the days when your only source for small college football information (pre-internet) was "Dan and Peggy's College Football Preview"? That was big time college athletics. It was the Dave Campbell's of small college football.

Pat Coleman · September 23, 2005, 07:24:01 PM

I remember the Shonkas, definitely. As an SID I was amazed to get a request for preseason football information in April!

That's actually the concept we modeled our Kickoff on, except we had reporters do the capsules instead of SIDs.

Spirit_of_66 · September 23, 2005, 08:00:34 PM

D&P was the only way to learn about teams across the nation. I am glad to see that you are carrying their flag. When did they end, 1997 or 1998? I know it became a financial burden for them and they stopped sometime in the 1990s.

Spirit_of_66 · September 23, 2005, 08:08:13 PM

Pat, I know this is old, but how many DIII schools are affected by the NCAA post-season ban on Indian mascots. I know in Division I, the NCAA has legislated that Indian mascots cannot go to bowl games. But it seems that every school in DI has petitioned to keep theirs (and been granted) except Illinois.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2167497

Pat Coleman · September 23, 2005, 08:26:09 PM

Well, technically none are this year -- it doesn't go into effect until after football season.

However, I know Carthage, McMurry and Mississippi College are on the list.

And I don't know when the Shonkas discontinued the preview. I stopped working full-time as an SID in 1995.

Spirit_of_66 · September 23, 2005, 08:31:37 PM

Thanks.

Ron Boerger · September 23, 2005, 08:52:43 PM

Quote from: dsc on September 23, 2005, 07:08:17 PM
And most options assume that TLU and/or UMHB will beat HSU! Must I remind everyone that HSU is the defending ASC Champion? (Undefeated in conference play last year!)

Nobody is saying anyone will beat HSU, all we are doing is discussing possible scenarios. Obviously there's not much of a problem figuring out who gets the bids if HSU wins out.

minni · September 23, 2005, 09:17:05 PM

can anyone in Mississippi give us Abilene folk a weather preview? Tonight and Tomorrow?

cgmatch · September 23, 2005, 11:05:44 PM

minni,

As you can guess there is going to be wind and rain during the game, but they are hoping the big stuff is going to come after the game is over since it has been moved to an earlier time. Hope that helps a little. And, even though I hope the Choctaws pull it off, I still wish you and everyone else traveling a safe trip.

cgmatch · September 23, 2005, 11:08:19 PM

minni,

I forgot to mention about tonight: It is not raining, and either way it will not be a mud bath tomorrow because they have that new field turf over at MC.