FB: American Southwest Conference

etbualum · October 03, 2005, 10:43:07 AM

Great game for PJ.

....but like the person said above...Kick it out of bounds.........Heeeeelllllllooooooooooooo MC kick it out of bounds.

Toby Taff · October 03, 2005, 11:20:04 AM

In all fairness to MC, I think the two TD's were on the first two punts. That's 166 yds on two touches. You don't expect to get bit twice that quick. However, if I got bit twice you can bet I wouldn't be trying to give the dog anything else to eat.

The Killeen Daily Herald also notes in their article that the 278 yds was an all division record for the NCAA. THe previous record was 277 yds from an Oklahoma Sooner in 2003.

http://kdhnews.com

justin ollie · October 03, 2005, 11:30:09 AM

What happened to HPU? Did they kick all of their offensive line off the team and suit up some running backs with 50 and 60 numbers? That is the smallest offensive line I have ever seen. They did have one big boy who was as slow as the day is long. I still cannot believe what I saw. Terrible

hpudad · October 03, 2005, 11:44:12 AM

I don't totally agree with the HSU/HPU recap that was posted earlier. HPU was in the game at the start of the 4th quarter. The score was 20-14 HSU. HPU was playing a team that is ranked 4th or 5th in the country and was in the game that late. If HSU is that good shouldn't they have been winning going away by then? After all they were playing HPU, a team with a new coaching staff and new system.

Anyway I was impressed with the speed of the HSU defense. Their defense is the teams strong point. HSU has a nice stadium and campus. I wish HPU would/could have similar facilities.

I was not impressed with the officiating at the game. The officials missed multiple calls but hey that is sometimes the way the game goes.

Anyway Congrats to HPU on the win.

Josh Bowerman · October 03, 2005, 01:13:33 PM

According to the ASC website, HSU led HPU 24-7 at the start of the fourth quarter.

HPU scored a TD w/ roughly 12 minutes to go to close to 24-14, but then Jared May ran the ensuing kickoff back 80 yards to make it 31-14.

http://www.americansouthwestconf.org/stats-football/f1001c.htm

Zmotion10 out on 2 · October 03, 2005, 01:57:40 PM

Isn't it funny how a good team is supposed to win by so many points? It is not good enough to just win the game, but it has to be by 21 or by 35 points for it to be a good win. That is crazy!

mcmfan · October 03, 2005, 03:19:40 PM

Hey, our McM win against LaCollege was horrible, in a game filled with turnovers, penalties, and missed PATs, and it took double overtime before we managed to do it; but is anybody at McMurry complaining we only won by six points or that our defense looked like butter until they finally stopped LC in the second overtime on fourth down? For all its sloppiness, this may be the game people here remember the most from the whole season once everything is over. If both teams had played better, the result would have been a technically better game, but the Abilene paper never would have called it a "thrilling" one the next day.

hpudad · October 03, 2005, 03:29:57 PM

I stand corrected about the score. I remember only being down by 10 in the 4th quarter and thinking HPU could still be in the game.

Yea, a team that is ranked in the top 5 in the country should be taking a team that only has 1 win and a new coaching staff and system to the woodshead. Would you expect Univ of Texas to take Missouri to the woodshead, oh wait that happened. HSU did not show that they were a top 5 team until the 4th quarter. If they play against UMHB like they did against HPU I think they will be handed a loss but that is three weeks away.

But I'm new to DIII Football and guess my opinion may not mean much to some but that is OK.

I do beleive HPU is experiencing some growing pains. The Coaching staff is trying to change to a more balanced offense but the team that is at HPU was built for the spread and passing attack. It will take a couple of years for the transformation to take place. I see HPU going 5-5 or possibly(outside chance) 6-4 in Coach Redwine's first year.

eagle · October 03, 2005, 03:32:39 PM

Hey a win is a win, I remeber last year when TLU had the same dogfight with LC, it is fun to watch even if the football is ugly. LC can put some points on the board that's for sure, I hope TLU can play some defense this time around. They are getting depleted in the receiving corps because of injury, luck would have it that this is one of the positions that they are very deep at, however they are also punt and kick off people also. TLU is an improved team this year so the rest of the year should be interesting.

Pat Coleman · October 03, 2005, 03:33:02 PM

Quote from: hpudad on October 03, 2005, 03:29:57 PM
Yea, a team that is ranked in the top 5 in the country should be taking a team that only has 1 win and a new coaching staff and system to the woodshead.

One win, but you've only played four games and two of them are against Top 15 teams. That stat is a little misleading, don't you think?

Ralph Turner · October 03, 2005, 05:05:36 PM

Quote...Yea, a team that is ranked in the top 5 in the country should be taking a team that only has 1 win and a new coaching staff and system to the woodshead....

But I'm new to DIII Football and guess my opinion may not mean much to some but that is OK.

hpudad, welcome to D3 and the ASC! HSU-McM, HPU-McM and HSU-HPU are very strong rivals and I never consider any outcome to be unusual. In 2002, a winless McM had HSU down 6-0 going into the 4th Qtr.

Many HPU alums would probably consider a win over HSU in 1-9 a record to be a good start at rebuilding.

dsc · October 03, 2005, 06:54:40 PM

hpudad,

Although Pat is correct in calling our attention to the "competition" that HPU has faced, I see nothing wrong with your analysis/comments.

Take Mount Union, for example, they have no trouble with lopsided scores year in and year out.
Also, this year---compare UMHB/MC (61-0) vs. HSU/MC (14-0). (Which would you consider the stronger, UMHB or HSU? Answer = obvious! Even considering the weather in MS.) Now, this is not to say that UMHB will beat HSU...too many factors to say so! We'll see in a couple weeks.

As RT said, "Welcome." Don't worry about saying anything wrong on these boards.

You'll be corrected quickly!

Just take it in stride...everyone's viewpoint is appreciated. Go ASC!!!

proudmcmdad · October 03, 2005, 08:48:59 PM

As a 4 1/2 year McM supporter, a win, any win is a good win and I really don't care if it was ugly football. The football gods have finally seen the light and let McM win a close one.
I think the team is finally gaining some confidence that can be carried forward for the rest of this year and into the future. We should only be big underdogs against 2 teams (HSU and MHB) and one of them is against the cross town rival and will have to play well to take care of this team (yeah I know that McM has lost several hundred in a row against them but McM usually plays them tough).
The ASC seems much better balanced this year with HSU & MHB being the class of the conference with TLU just behind. The remaining 7 teams appear to be pretty closely bunched.
Turnovers, penalties and special teams will determine how well McM finishes the year and McM needs to improve in all these categories, but I am loving being 3 and 1. Heck with another thrilling victory the Abilene paper may even write something about us.

Zmotion10 out on 2 · October 03, 2005, 08:59:24 PM

Quote from: dsc on October 03, 2005, 06:54:40 PM
hpudad,

Although Pat is correct in calling our attention to the "competition" that HPU has faced, I see nothing wrong with your analysis/comments.

Take Mount Union, for example, they have no trouble with lopsided scores year in and year out.
Also, this year---compare UMHB/MC (61-0) vs. HSU/MC (14-0). (Which would you consider the stronger, UMHB or HSU? Answer = obvious! Even considering the weather in MS.) Now, this is not to say that UMHB will beat HSU...too many factors to say so! We'll see in a couple weeks.

As RT said, "Welcome." Don't worry about saying anything wrong on these boards. You'll be corrected quickly!

Just take it in stride...everyone's viewpoint is appreciated. Go ASC!!!

This is what makes the board fun. Although I disagree with dsc on his analysis of scores against teams. I have been watching football for too long to guess that one team is better than another because one team beat a common opponent by so many points more than the other team. (Not really sure that dsc said that either). But too many things factor in to that.

I also say welcome to the board.

minni · October 03, 2005, 10:53:55 PM

hpudad,

you are entitled to your opinion of the game and I voiced mine. We played 60 min. of football and we handed you a loss. Whether we beat you by 1 or 100 we beat you. Some call it a rivalry but me personally, it has lost some luster from 5 years ago when I was in my freshmen year. If you think you were in the game in the 4th quarter im sorry to tell you, you weren't. Ill say it again, when your players are more worried about the fans rather than whats going on between the stripes, there is something wrong. Your comments are welcome.

Thanks for the compliments on the facilities. I was once a student worker who helped paint the field and mow around the campus we do take pride in the 40 acres, especially Shelton Stadium.

My other issue is this. Why do the HSU Fans wait so freakin long to get to the game. I oftern wondered this as a player. Before the game we would run out on the field and it was like they were empty and when kickoff roles around they begin to fill up. I noticed this also on saturday. As I sat in the endzone, i looked up and some of the people asked that very question. Maybe some fans can fill me in. Sorry for the rambling!