FB: American Southwest Conference

CwbyFann · October 12, 2005, 02:04:48 PM

I'm not doggin UMHB or anything, but I have to question their #11 ranking after sufferring a loss to an unranked opponent like HPU. I would think that undefeated Trinity would still have to be way ahead of them.

Ron Boerger · October 12, 2005, 02:24:55 PM

Quote from: CwbyFann on October 12, 2005, 02:04:48 PM
I'm not doggin UMHB or anything, but I have to question their #11 ranking after sufferring a loss to an unranked opponent like HPU. I would think that undefeated Trinity would still have to be way ahead of them.

In terms of what, exactly?

If you're talking playoff possibilities, certainly. Other than that I would caution anyone from reading too much into any one game, because "any given Saturday," etc etc. Trinity (who was down in the fourth quarter just last Saturday to another "unranked opponent" at home, albeit one that was 4-0) hasn't rolled past anyone this year. I don't think you can say based on current results that TU would be "way ahead" of UMHB.

CwbyFann · October 12, 2005, 02:49:43 PM

Ron I'm not much of a rankings guy myself, and I fully understand that by no means is UMHB way better a team than Trinity. However, does UMHB deserve to be in the top 15 after dropping a game to a 1-3 opponent? I feel that Trinity certainly does because they have won all of there games regardless of what the score was. (They found a way to win)

CwbyFann · October 12, 2005, 02:52:27 PM

Hey it was just a simple question no reason to start jacking my hard earned karma things.

sthrncwby · October 12, 2005, 03:33:24 PM

Ron's quote, "Other than that I would caution anyone from reading too much into any one game, because "any given Saturday," etc etc." Why even play the games then. Lets just pick the national champion at the beginning of the year and call it quits. That sure would save alot of time and money.

sthrncwby · October 12, 2005, 03:47:14 PM

I wanted to see #2 UMHB vs #4 HSU. Huge game. Now its still a big game, but it lost just alittle of the hype. UMHB should drop, possibly the best team with a notch in the "L" column. You have to respect the teams still undefeated. Then again it doesnt matter till playoffs and still who cares where youre ranked. Just keep winning and things will fall into place.

dballa · October 12, 2005, 03:55:26 PM

You may not be dogging UMHB but you are bashing an HPU team who has played 3 top 15 teams to start the season and one team that has only one loss all year and it's to a non DIII school. I'm sure if HPU had started their season off against MC, SRSU, LC and one of the weaker Wisconsin teams we would probably have a winning record as well.

sethhpu · October 12, 2005, 04:10:59 PM

You can't look at records alone. HPU deserves way more credit than is shown. I would like to see the record of another D 3 school who has a winning record this season agaisnt 3 top 15 schools??? I still think the HSU vs UMHB will be a big game, most likely the game of the week. But give credit where credit is due please.

CwbyFann · October 12, 2005, 04:32:29 PM

dballa,
Don't get your feelings hurt. Having played in the ASC I have tremendous respect for both UMHB and HSU. I also understand that HP has had a difficult schedule and that they are in a transitional phase, but that doesn't change the fact that when you lose to a 1-3 program you should drop in the rankings considerably.

I don't put much stock in the rankings, but my elligibility is up so it gives me something else to talk about

CwbyFann · October 12, 2005, 04:33:58 PM

Sorry I meant respect for UMHB and HP

dballa · October 12, 2005, 04:57:21 PM

I don't think you have to worry about any feelings being hurt especially after any comments from someone from HSU

Warren Thompson · October 12, 2005, 05:11:23 PM

Question #1: Were [are] the prayers in question specific to a certain religion?

Question #2: How would people feel if the coach were a Jew or a Muslim and offered a prayer consistent with her/his religious beliefs?

Question #3: What does religion [and God or god or the gods] have to do with football or any other sport? I.e., does a deity, perhaps, play favorites on court or field?

Merely wondering ....

Nimbly_bimbly · October 12, 2005, 08:19:11 PM

etbualum as you quoted in reply #793 on Oct. 11

"Two areas that we have not been able to match UMHB or HSU is Size of the O and D line and the QB position. Once those areas start to shape up then I think you will see a more consistent and dominant ETBU teem."

well first of all teem is really team. and for the whole size issue. i know for a fact that the starting center for HSU the last two years was 5'11" and 230 lbs. soaking wet. and if you think that ETBU can't find size to compete with that, then keep using the same excuse.

how about that stat!

etbualum · October 12, 2005, 08:33:41 PM

I guess I should have sent my post to the spelling police first.

Sorry to all the fans that I have offended.

On the other note you do not have to be big to be a good o line or d line player. We have had all conference in just about every position but QB in the last 4 years. I was making the statement that when we dont have to start 4 freshman on the O line and we can get the depth and talent of the HSU O line then we will be a dominant TEEM.

Seriously some of you HSU guys should learn take a compliment. The underlying theme of the whole post was that we want to be where you guys are. If this post still offends you then you probably spent too much time on the field and maybe you should have your head checked.

PS Notice how I highlighted some no need to hear back from everyone of you on this either.

tripled14 · October 13, 2005, 12:06:27 AM

Quote from: sthrncwby on October 12, 2005, 01:51:33 PM
Anyone associated with UMHB, what's the mood? I remember what was like to be ranked so high. Then someone yanked the rug out from under your feet. It sucks. Can they rebound or will they fall apart?

I hear that Coach Fredenburg told the players it was his fault UMHB lost the game. I think the Crusaders will bounce back although Sul Ross may give them some trouble with their passing attack.