FB: American Southwest Conference

CwbyFann · October 25, 2005, 10:10:08 PM

Bill thanks for the support and yes I did play for HSU.

Ralph, the school board voted last night to make a return to 6 man. I think they did it in the best interest of the kids. It does put me in an awkward position though.

Dballa, all is forgiven just keep the gloves up.

CwbyFann · October 25, 2005, 10:21:40 PM

hsu_alum13,
I fail to see all the excuses everyone keeps talking about. I think pretty much the general view is that UMHB came to Abilene and put it on the Boys. However, I do agree with you that the team and Coach K will do nothing but move forward from this point on. Go Cowboys!

kickhoe · October 25, 2005, 11:17:58 PM

Ralph, your exactly right. These schools all play competitive football and they get noticed by the high schoolers. Only a handful of kids can play D-I ball. There are only so many spots available. You have high school football players that are darn good, but maybe too short, or too slow, or whatever. At HSU, UMHB, HPU, etc. they probably have a good chance of playing. That is very enticing too an 18 year old kid who loves football and knows that he can come in his freshman year and possibly make a difference. I think that is awesome!!!

Another thing, all of these ASC schools are producing excellent high school football coaches. I know at HSU, Coach K is cranking out top notch high school football coaches every year. I had heard (my facts may not be exactly right) that Coach K has produced more current high school football coaches in Texas than any other active coach. That is very impressive!!! Saying all of this, what a huge recruiting tool for HSU!!! Those high school coaches wield a lot of influcence with these young athletes. If that coach recommends HSU, more than likely, he'll go.

crualum04 · October 25, 2005, 11:30:06 PM

In my opinion, the best team should win the conference. UMHB showed on saturday that they are the best team in the conference. Every once in a while a good team allows a team to stick around and loses a game at the last second (UMHB vs. ETBU 2003 and HPU 2005). However, when a team loses by 31 with only one turnover, then that team got dominated. When a team has -8 yards going into halftime, then that team got dominated. When a team gives up 8 sacks for -97 yards, then that team got dominated. What I am trying to say is that it is not right to "GIVE" HSU the conference championship. I think the conference championship should go to the best team in the conference and that is UMHB. Anyone that won't admit that UMHB is the best team in the conference is cocky, arrogant, and full of crap. Just my .02 cents.

kickhoe · October 25, 2005, 11:41:48 PM

crualum04....nobody is "giving" HSU the conference....they have got to win out to do it....that won't be easy....McM is much improved and TLU is no cake walk.....unfortunately, UMHB was dealt a bad hand....they can't help it if their game with LC was cancelled.....such is life.....like Ron said in his column....hopefully, the selection committee will do the right thing and include UMHB in the playoffs.....

I'll say it again.....UMHB took HSU to the woodshed!!! No doubt about it....they have done it the past 2 times they have met. I don't have any problem with you saying that UMHB is the best in the conference....after Saturday...I would have to agree with you.

Weak Safety · October 25, 2005, 11:53:54 PM

Hurricanes, extra points not allowed to be kicked......always some drama in the ASC!

Just noticed on the ASC website weekly notes that the HSU-McM will be televised live on KTAB. Pretty cool.

hsu_alum13 · October 26, 2005, 12:22:12 AM

crualum04...in that case HPU BEAT UMHB...then they should be "given" the championship

Toby Taff · October 26, 2005, 12:25:59 AM

Quote from: crualum04 on October 25, 2005, 11:30:06 PM
In my opinion, the best team should win the conference. UMHB showed on saturday that they are the best team in the conference. Every once in a while a good team allows a team to stick around and loses a game at the last second (UMHB vs. ETBU 2003 and HPU 2005). However, when a team loses by 31 with only one turnover, then that team got dominated. When a team has -8 yards going into halftime, then that team got dominated. When a team gives up 8 sacks for -97 yards, then that team got dominated. What I am trying to say is that it is not right to "GIVE" HSU the conference championship. I think the conference championship should go to the best team in the conference and that is UMHB. Anyone that won't admit that UMHB is the best team in the conference is cocky, arrogant, and full of crap. Just my .02 cents.

Hey classmate,

I don't think anyone is giving HSU the championship. When the game was cancelled, everyone except us fans new what could possibly happen. The situation sucks, but MHB had the opportunity to win the HPU game and then this would not be an issue. At the game on Saturday everyone around me told me a different team showed up in Abilene than showed up in the SRSU or HPU game. If the same team had shown vs. HPU this is a non-issue and MHB is marching to the playoffs probably #2 in the nation and looking at a possible 1 seed. Our team is where they are because of their inconsistancy so far this year. If the same team shows the rest of the season we could be headed back deep into the playoffs, and I'll take and look forward to that rather than wishing things were different.

ccowboyz1 · October 26, 2005, 01:16:34 AM

Congratulations Cru on a very convincing win. Your coaches and defense all deserve game balls. I predicted the Cru would score 24 points, I just didn't expect it to be in the first half en route to a lopsided 31 point win over the Cowboys. I would have never expected the Cru defense to allow HSU only 7 points. Hopefully the Cowboys will get the problems worked out in time for a much improved McMurry team Saturday. Go Cowboys....Get a Indian.

TXCowboy · October 26, 2005, 03:45:40 AM

Well we have some big games this week between HSU/McM and UMHB/ETBU, the last time this scenario played out I believe ETBU beat UMHB. So first off UMHB better be focused for the tigers, which I would presume the would be, and HSU better not forget that McM has not beaten McM since HSU started football back up in 1990 so they have something to prove as well. Some exciting games to look forward to even though it is now two ranked teams playing this week.

TXCowboy · October 26, 2005, 03:47:47 AM

sorry about that, even though it is not two ranked teams playing

onall · October 26, 2005, 08:28:49 AM

Quote from: TXCowboy on October 26, 2005, 03:45:40 AM
Well we have some big games this week between HSU/McM and UMHB/ETBU, the last time this scenario played out I believe ETBU beat UMHB. So first off UMHB better be focused for the tigers, which I would presume the would be, and HSU better not forget that McM has not beaten McM since HSU started football back up in 1990 so they have something to prove as well. Some exciting games to look forward to even though it is now two ranked teams playing this week.

"McM has not beaten McM "

Funny you say that. I can remember one game in 2002 over on the north side of town when we beat ourselves against HSU. Up 6-0 with little time left, turned the ball over and see ya later. 14-6 Cowboys. Good game though. Should be a great one this weekend. Good luck McM.

Bill McCabe · October 26, 2005, 08:29:16 AM

mhb8904, I agree, UMHB could have taken care of things with a win over HPU. Hopefully they will win out and make the playoffs. Things went very well last year as a Pool C and playing every game on the road. I hope history will repeat itself. If they play like they did against HSU, I believe they can make another deep run in the playoffs. I'm hoping we get a home game. Right now, the most important thing is the ETBU game.

minni · October 26, 2005, 10:50:04 AM

ok ive been doing some thinking. What intelligence can I add to the board. Then I thought well not much but here is my stab at it. And im not trying to make any excuses.

Hardin-Simmons did not play well at all on saturday. UMHB played a hell of a game and kicked our tails. But I believe I can honetly say the team I saw play last saturday was not the team I have seen the past weeks. HSU is better than what they proved. Who is the best team I have no idea, based on Saturday it has to UMHB. I just wish we could both play our A games and really see who the best is. Also I am going to go out on a limb and say that the team that showed up for UMHB was not the same team from the last few weeks. UMHB put up about the same amount of points in the first half of the HSU game as they did in the entire SRSU game. I remind you this is not an excuse just my point of view.

Bill McCabe · October 26, 2005, 10:53:19 AM

minni, As the conference becomes more competitive between teams, it will be more difficult for anyone to go undefeated. I think that is probably a good thing. UMHB played their best game of the year, when they absolutely had to have a win. I hope HSU and UMHB both make the playoffs. I don't think any of the 2 loss teams can get in, but they could keep HSU or UMHB out.