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ccowboyz1

Great question Weak Safety.  My first thought would be Howard Payne, but then you know how tough them Mothers can be.  Might depend on the home field advantage.

As far as a rematch between UMHB and HSU, I think both teams would look forward to it and hopefully bring their best game.  But there is lots of football to be played before that can happen.

Should both teams win out it appears HSU might be headed to San Antonio.  Would the NCAA bring a team from the East or Northeast to Belton?  It seems having only three teams in the South sure messes up the brackets for the NCAA.

CruGuy

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 30, 2005, 10:32:50 PM

  There is no rivalry in this conference that is bigger than HSU-McM! 

How many more years til UMHB vs HSU is the biggest rivalry game? I've now been to four games in three years that were well attended, fun, exciting games and any one of them meant more than all three of the HSU vs McM games combined in those three years.

There's all kinds of battlegrounds to pick between two baptist schools, and sharing names, and sharing colors, and it's pretty apparant from this board that most of the fans don't like each other. Sounds like a pretty big rivalry to me.

Ralph Turner

In football, UMHB and HSU are big rivals, but do the basketball players, the baseball players, the volleyball players, the softball players and the soccer players all want to beat HSU more than anyone else?

That is the nature of the McM-HSU rivalry.

Toby Taff

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 01, 2005, 07:42:01 AM
In football, UMHB and HSU are big rivals, but do the basketball players, the baseball players, the volleyball players, the softball players and the soccer players all want to beat HSU more than anyone else?

That is the nature of the McM-HSU rivalry.

Turf War! ;)
So . . .  I live 6 blocks from MCM in a house owned by HSU whose colors shoul I fly? :D
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

baddog

8904 and RT -- Speaking of the HSU vs McM Rivalry Fall 2005 edition:
Men's Soccer: HSU 2-0
Women's Soccer: HSU 12-0 (yep, you read it right)
Football: HSU 36-25

So you live near the den of iniquity.  ;)
All the more reason to wear the winning colors as a witness for those poor, misled folk: Purple and Gold! ;D
Not really a bad dog. Just misunderstood!

Ralph Turner

baddog, I was hoping that the reversal of scores, HSU volleyball over McMurry volleyball and the McMurry Women's basketball defeating the Cowgirls 2 games to 1 last year, would forbode a change in the usual winners in football as well!

Yeah, it has been a tough year vs. HSU.

Basketball should be much tighter this year.

Ralph Turner

On a serious note, my condolences to the family and friends of the Baptist minister in Waco who was standing in the baptistry Sunday morning when he grabbed the microphone.

Toby Taff

Ralph,

Kyle was an acquaintance of mine.  We met for lunch once to just hang out and talk about church and the ministry.  He was exceptional and is sorely missed by many.

baddog,

I always fly the purple and gold! it just not usually for HSU.  ;D

GO CRU!
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

onall

Quote from: CwbyFann on October 31, 2005, 04:35:46 PM
Proudmcmdad, don't be afraid to compare Sellers to King.  I played against King on his best day (literaly) and a few other times as well, and I think he matches up extremely well.  In fact he might even be a little more mobile than the fleet footed King. 

Come on Dballa I know you've got something to say about this  ;D

I also have to agree with Ralph that Mcm has been run oriented in the recent past.  They just have not been real successful at it until this year.  I do agree that you have to be able to run the ball to be a dominate team ( or at least make people  think you can) HSU has a lot of success throwing but it has a lot to do with the fact that you must honor their running game as well.  In other words you can't be a one trick pony.




Agreed.  I played against King as well.  Maybe not on his best day, but played him twice.  After watching Sellers, it's a real close match.  I would rather play King 100 more times than see Sellers.  The kid can flat out play.  Good luck to all those that are competing in the ASC Saturday.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: ccowboyz1 on November 01, 2005, 12:34:02 AM
Should both teams win out it appears HSU might be headed to San Antonio.  Would the NCAA bring a team from the East or Northeast to Belton?  It seems having only three teams in the South sure messes up the brackets for the NCAA.

Remember that the NCAA (in football, anyway) considers the "south" to be everything from TX to KY, MD, VA, and even a little of IN. 

If Huntingdon manages to get in they could very possibly be flown into Abilene.  They are 500+ miles from anyone who will be in the playoffs.  The Hawks are on the outside looking in right now, but if as many B/C eligibles lose over the next two weeks as did last week, could be right in the thick of things come selection Sunday. 

Doubt they would fly anyone from the NE or E down here.  Too far and those are fairly weak regions.  More likely someone from the "West" will be flown into one of them (the "West" includes places like Wisconsin and Minnesota that are a lot closer to the N or NE than TX). 

TXCowboy

if both teams win out then the HSU-UMHB game would be in abilene because of the fact that HSU has the automatic bid and a pool C bid would put them at a lower seed than HSU.  So I guess that would be good for UMHB becuuse the home team never fairs out to well aparently in this rivalry.

Being a former HSU player I am have to say that in my opionion, when I first got to HSU, UMHB was not very good, and McM was had Braxton Shaver as well as many other athletes.  The HSU vs. McM game was huge but as time passed the rivalry in a way sorta lost its flame.  As UMHB turned there program into an outstanding team the a rivalry really started to develope and become intense.  By the time that I left the HSU vs. UMHB game was "the" game to watch in the ASC.  So now I think that the HSU-UMHB game is the biggest rivalry game in the conference right now.  I am not saying that HSU-McM is not a big rivalry game I am just saying that there is a little more of a flame there right now between HSU and UMHB.

Toby Taff

Quote from: TXCowboy on November 01, 2005, 10:06:47 AM
if both teams win out then the HSU-UMHB game would be in abilene because of the fact that HSU has the automatic bid and a pool C bid would put them at a lower seed than HSU.  So I guess that would be good for UMHB becuuse the home team never fairs out to well aparently in this rivalry.

It would make sense that the Pool A would be higher than the Pool C, but given the circumstances and the head to head, I'm not sure it will happen that way.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

sthrncwby

When people talk about rivalry, are we talking about just football or overall programs.  If its football then UHMB vs HSU is a huge rivalry.  It is true it is always been the game of the week in the national spotlight, every year.  Now for overall programs, HSU vs McMurry is huge.  Two colleges, one town.
mhb8904 - conf champ gets pool A bid, right now its HSU.  If UMHB makes the pool C bid, UHMB would have the higher seed because of poll rankings.  That seems resonable.

dsc

That is my understanding also.  UMHB would get the "HFA"...due to the higher "ranking/seeding."

...for any HSU/UMHB match-up!  (Would not like for it to happen on Thanksgiving weekend, however!)

Go HSU...
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