FB: American Southwest Conference

Pat Coleman · March 13, 2006, 02:08:20 PM

Quote from: hpudad on March 13, 2006, 11:17:18 AM
Pat are you being a little critical of the HPU Coach and schedule? Coach Redwine came from a NAIA school and I'm sure that is where most of his contacts are.

Yes I am being critical of the schedule. Howard Payne is an NCAA school and the program should ... well, get with the program. HPU is not only hurting its own postseason chances, it's hurting its fellow ASC teams.

Ralph Turner · March 13, 2006, 02:55:16 PM

I know the Southern Nazarene game was previously contracted for HPU.

The only 2 South Region opponents on the Open Dates board besides HPU on the 2nd weekend are Averett and Greensboro.

The only other South Region opponent on the Open Dates board besides HPU on the 4th weekend (what I think was the Austin College weekend) is first year program Gallaudet.

Austin College may become a 4-win team just by switching conferences! $:-\$

Do we need to consider petitioning the NCAA to permit West Region opponents be deemed "in-regon games"?

Ralph Turner · March 13, 2006, 02:59:39 PM

Quote from: Zmotion10 out on 2 on March 13, 2006, 12:33:51 PM
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One thing I wonder about is how much the JV helps these players prepare for varsity. I know at HSU they play everyone. That is good and bad. The good is that everyone gets a shot. The bad is that the better players get about 16 snaps and that is it. Very limiting. I know that these players learn the plays (responsibilities) real well by getting actual game experience. ...

I honestly think that the JV programs give the freshman and "younger" sophomores some game experience as they are going up to be men. Eighteen year-old boys and 21 year-old men are 2 different creatures. You can look at the successful JV programs at HSU and UMHB and see the difference that having 21 year-old men starting versus a McMurry or Austin College with players 1-2 years younger has made over the last decade.

Josh Bowerman · March 13, 2006, 03:38:11 PM

Karma for Pat. I was about to point out the same thing (RE: schedules affecting other conference teams), but he beat me to the punch!

IMO, HPU could be back to challenging for the conference championship this year, though.

Josh Bowerman · March 13, 2006, 03:39:56 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 13, 2006, 02:55:16 PM

Do we need to consider petitioning the NCAA to permit West Region opponents be deemed "in-regon games"?

That might not be such a bad idea, Ralph. It certainly would include all the WIAC games ASC teams have played over the last several years!

Ralph Turner · March 13, 2006, 07:07:49 PM

It might help with those teams on the West Coast making an effort to come to Texas for games, especially someone other than Willamette or Menlo!

Ralph Turner · March 13, 2006, 07:14:58 PM

Congratulations to McMurry's 4 x 100 Meter relay team making the NCAA Outdoors with an AQ time of 40.94 secs!

Football players whom you have seen include Jim Bob Bizzell (DB) , not only a good athlete but first string All-Texan Football Name team, from Odessa Permian no less (MOJO!!!), and Bert Green (WR from St Louis, MO). 40.94 secs this early! Wow! Great time!

Jim Bob Bizzell also ran the opening leg of the 4 X 400 meter relay which is the first team in the NCAA's to qualify provisionally!

Also, McM's Kelvin Figgs (Wide Receiver) has provisonally qualified in the High Jump at 6' 7.75" (2.03 m) and the 110 Meter Hurdles at 14.62 secs.

HPU's 4 x 100 has qualified provisionally. I recognize Greg Nixon on that relay team!

Thruout the season, you can get updates at

http://www.raceberryjam.com/indexod.html

Josh Bowerman · March 13, 2006, 07:31:57 PM

Damn, that's pretty fast, Ralph!

Jim Bob may have a great Texas name, but he's still got nothing on my main man TonTon Balenga!

dballa · March 13, 2006, 08:00:36 PM

Ralph Greg Nixon also qualified in the 200 to defend his national championship and in the 100 to which he came in 3rd but in the qualifying heat posted the nations fastest time last year at 10.37.

HPU's 4X100 could have done better last year but hurt themselves with a bobble on one of the handoffs. I don't expect this years team to do the same.

Pat Coleman · March 13, 2006, 08:52:44 PM

Quote from: Josh Bowerman on March 13, 2006, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 13, 2006, 02:55:16 PM

Do we need to consider petitioning the NCAA to permit West Region opponents be deemed "in-regon games"?

That might not be such a bad idea, Ralph. It certainly would include all the WIAC games ASC teams have played over the last several years!

Even if they aren't in-region, let's be honest, it is still better to play any D-III team than any NAIA team.

dballa · March 13, 2006, 09:39:06 PM

Pat one question for you, say HPU did schedule a DIII school for those two non-conference games. Do you think there's a DIII school out there that will have a good enough season this year that if HPU did schedule them it would have had a good impact on their QOWI and their fellow conference opponents? What if they put Austin College in that Paul Quinn slot. That doesn't help HPU if that team goes 0-10 or even 2-8.

Like Ralph said, Southern Nazarene was already slated for this year and there was nothing Coach Redwine could do about it unless he backed out of the deal. What kind of respect does a coach get for that? So that really leaves only one date and that would have been as Ralph stated the Austin College date. In a time where you sign contracts to play certain teams a couple years in advance, you take what you can when you can get it. I think thats all Coach Redwine did in scheduling Paul Quinn.

Ralph Turner · March 13, 2006, 10:17:10 PM

Quote from: Josh Bowerman on March 13, 2006, 07:31:57 PM

Jim Bob may have a great Texas name, but he's still got nothing on my main man TonTon Balenga!

I gave my son a Ton-Ton for Christmas 1982! Did your parents give you a Ton-Ton?

Or did you mean Tonton as in Tonton Macoute? Will Ton Ton Balenga be the bogeyman of IWU?

Pat Coleman · March 13, 2006, 10:25:22 PM

I am all for honoring existing contracts but not signing new ones. The rules have been in place for how many years now?

Ralph Turner · March 13, 2006, 10:37:55 PM

McMurry has Menlo and Austin College. I hope we aren't one of the 4 wins next year! $:-\$

Menlo competes in the NWC this year!

Josh Bowerman · March 14, 2006, 11:11:36 AM

Earning QOWI points for playing in-region DIII teams is better than having no opportunity to earn points by playing NAIA teams--this season aside, of course, because of the AC transition.

I think we, as a conference, would have a better chance to either get the QOWI formula changed to include all DIII games or getting changes to what is considered "in region" than we would getting NAIA or DI-AA/DII games included in the Index.

The whole thing is kinda like what the Missouri Valley Conference did with the RPI this year in DI hoops, though. 8)