FB: American Southwest Conference

[Bill McCabe]

HSU-MC is very interesting.  Undefeated and at home should give MC some advantage.  Can they stop HSU and can HSU stop them?  It should be a fun game to watch.  What kind of crowd is expected?

[crufootball]

With the departure of Chris Allman, anybody know if the South will have an Around the Region this week?

[golden_dome]

HSU-MC is very interesting.  Undefeated and at home should give MC some advantage.  Can they stop HSU and can HSU stop them?  It should be a fun game to watch.  What kind of crowd is expected?

Should be a great one. We had around 5,000 for Millsaps  and Texas Lutheran. Our administration does a great job of working events around the football games. For the TLU game we had about 2,000 RA's on campus for a morning conference. This Saturday is Family Day which has become a huge event for us. Our enrollment is about 4,600 with 2,000 students living on campus. The campus will be packed with families visiting for the weekend.

[Carl Menist]

For those who came in late, DuBose played 2nd/3rd team the entire second half (a total of 74 players, 27 who stepped onto a college field for the first time) and ended up losing 27-26 after building a 20-3 lead in the first half. 

Ron,
   I am not gonna post about this all season but just to be accurate, Millsaps subbed in the 4th quarter with the lead and not the entire second half. Starters played the third quarter.
   Looking forward to this weekend's game against the Cowboys. Your right, should be a good one. Several big games in the south this week with Hardin-Simmons at MC, Millsaps at DePauw and Bridgewater at Hampden-Sydney.

Chris -

First of all - Congratulations to the Choctaws and good luck this week-end. I think the Choctaws have a great chance to win this game and set up a show down when MHB comes to Clinton on October 20,(Received my Homecoming invite in the mail this week end  --- the 20th is actually an open date for Millsaps so I am planning to come to see the game).

It looks like to me that MC is gaining momentum each week and getting better and better each week.

In regard to that first game, the reserves were actual put in for good with about 5 to 6 minutes remaining in the 3rd quater --- not the whole second half and not just the 4th quarter. The fake punt was executed on the starting and only punt return team.

All that is in the past --- It looks like to me that both teams are improving weekly and are not the same teams they were back in August. If they played again, who knows what would happen. I do think it would be serious though and intense.

For now, I am rooting for the guys from Mississippi! I think they should be able to hold their own week-end!!

[golden_dome]

In regard to that first game, the reserves were actual put in for good with about 5 to 6 minutes remaining in the 3rd quater --- not the whole second half and not just the 4th quarter. The fake punt was executed on the starting and only punt return team.

Doesn't really matter I guess but the starters played until Juan Joseph's touchdown throw with 2:32 remaining in the third, after that you started seeing players who probably would not normally play. I actually have footage of all our games on my computer from our webcasts and took a look.

You are probably in the same boat as I am though and tired of talking about the 4th quarter of that game instead of how good both teams are. Hardin-Simmons is a good litmus test for us and will give me a good idea of what kind of team Millsaps has having had a chance to see both. I would be very surprised if Millsaps doesn't win by ten points.

[Carl Menist]

Quote from: Big C on Today at 06:59:36 pm
In regard to that first game, the reserves were actual put in for good with about 5 to 6 minutes remaining in the 3rd quater --- not the whole second half and not just the 4th quarter. The fake punt was executed on the starting and only punt return team.

Doesn't really matter I guess but the starters played until Juan Joseph's touchdown throw with 2:32 remaining in the third, after that you started seeing players who probably would not normally play. I actually have footage of all our games on my computer from our webcasts and took a look.

You are probably in the same boat as I am though and tired of talking about the 4th quarter of that game instead of how good both teams are. Hardin-Simmons is a good litmus test for us and will give me a good idea of what kind of team Millsaps has having had a chance to see both.

Question for fans of Millsaps and DePauw who are obviously more familiar than I am with those teams. I would be very surprised if Millsaps doesn't win by ten points, but if Millsaps had a weakness in the game at MC was special teams. I noticed that the punting and placekicking for the Majors have been a struggle this year. Does that play into this game or is Millsaps good enough that it doesn't matter?


Stand corrected - 2:32 left in the third quarter it is.

I really don't have a way of knowing how games are going to go. The thing I look at more than anything is how, my team, Millsaps is playing, are they getting better???, are there key injuries? ---  that is about it.

For now, they are playing well and there are not too many injuries that can't be bound up and played through (normal if you are going to play football). Millsaps has lost one of it's top linebackers to a knee injury, out for the season. This hurt's but fortunately there is a good bot of depth in the linebacker position.

The special teams / kicking area has been an area of concern but has also been an area of heightened focus. Coach Dubose has made some adjustments, forced somewhat to instal a new placekicker due to the #1 guy getting banged up at Austin and the kicking game showed improvement last Saturday.

All in all,  the team is looking good. As with MC our #1 running back is now in the line-up and doing well. Infact, the rushing game has shown improvement week after week with several backs making solid contributions.

MC and Millsaps both have good coaching staffs, pretty good players that play their system fairly well and accordingly, present fairly big problems for most opponents, particularly if things are clicking.

I don't know about HSU, but it seems that MC is on it's game and HSU will have their hands full. I know that Depaux will if Millsaps is on it's game.That is really about the only thing I do know. We have a team that can compete and win if they play to their capability. If they don't, most teams on our schedule can beat us. To win championships, you have to play well week in and week out.

I think the long road trip for Millsaps will have somewhat of an impact and there is also the chance of having to overcome "homefield advantages sometimes facilitated by the refs". To address this, the team will have to play with urgency and try to build a lead that can weather any bad breaks.

Hope the ball bounces your way in Clinton on Saturday. Good luck!

[OLDCHOCTAWCOACH]

Hey Chris Brooks!  This is Chris Garrett!  Good to see you are still at it there at the home of the Choctaws!

I'm here in Texas coaching high school ball.  Looking forward to seeing you at one of the games here. 

Go Chocs!

[golden_dome]

Hey Chris Brooks!  This is Chris Garrett!  Good to see you are still at it there at the home of the Choctaws!

I'm here in Texas coaching high school ball.  Looking forward to seeing you at one of the games here. 

Go Chocs!

Hey Chris, not sure you qualify as Old yet. Glad to hear you are still in coaching, see if you can send some all-americans our way. If you are able to catch a game this year just let me know, I should be on most of the trips. Saturday should be the biggest game we have had on campus in quite some time, looking forward to it.

[drinkxs.com]

Does anyone know how Mt. Union schedules its out of conference opponent? There confence has 9 teams, leaving 1 open date on the schedule. It appears they scheduled an average opponent and do not look for a Top 10 opponent to play. They scheduled Averett (7-3) in 06.

I am not sure what HSU and UMHB gain by scheduling the Wisconsin teams. Lets say UMHB beats WW and wins the ASC, they will most likely have to play WW again in the playoffs. Its tough to beat any quality opponent 2x in one year.

Again, do not see MU schedule WW, UMHB, HSU, Wesley, Linfield with their one open date...

[Ralph Turner]

Does anyone know how Mt. Union schedules its out of conference opponent? There confence has 9 teams, leaving 1 open date on the schedule. It appears they scheduled an average opponent and do not look for a Top 10 opponent to play. They scheduled Averett (7-3) in 06.

I am not sure what HSU and UMHB gain by scheduling the Wisconsin teams. Lets say UMHB beats WW and wins the ASC, they will most likely have to play WW again in the playoffs. Its tough to beat any quality opponent 2x in one year.

Again, do not see MU schedule WW, UMHB, HSU, Wesley, Linfield with their one open date...

The Averett (Danville VA) Head Coach came from Mount Union (Alliance, OH) and arranged the games.  MUC (Ohio) and Averett (Virginia) are in Administrative Region #3, so the game counts as an in-region game.

St John Fisher, MUC's 2006 semi-final opponent, plays MUC in 2008 and 2009.  St John Fisher (Pittsford, NY) will not be an in-region game because MUC and SJF are:

1) not in the same conference,
2) nor are they in the same Evaluation Region (North vs East),
3) nor are they same Adminstrative Region (#3 versus #2 which includes NY and Pa),
4) nor are their campuses within a 200 mile radius (shortest driving distance by msn.mappoint).

The WIAC and Northwest Conference opponents are in Administrative Region #4 (TX, OK, KS, MO, IL, WI westward).  UMHB and HSU could schedule MUC and the game would not be "in-region".  So, it is possible.

[OLDCHOCTAWCOACH]

Hey Chris, not sure you qualify as Old yet. Glad to hear you are still in coaching, see if you can send some all-americans our way. If you are able to catch a game this year just let me know, I should be on most of the trips. Saturday should be the biggest game we have had on campus in quite some time, looking forward to it.

I feel older than dirt sometimes, but I guess I meant old as in "former".  I was going to go to the McMurry game last weekend but my youngest daughter was sick.  I have two girls now. If I remember correctly, you had a little boy right before I left, correct?  I will probably go to the ETBU game and will let you know when it gets closer.  Take care and keep up the great work.  If you're ever this way (Dallas) let me know.  I would love to catch up over a good steak dinner, my treat! 

[Pat Coleman]

Does anyone know how Mt. Union schedules its out of conference opponent? There confence has 9 teams, leaving 1 open date on the schedule. It appears they scheduled an average opponent and do not look for a Top 10 opponent to play. They scheduled Averett (7-3) in 06.

I am not sure what HSU and UMHB gain by scheduling the Wisconsin teams. Lets say UMHB beats WW and wins the ASC, they will most likely have to play WW again in the playoffs. Its tough to beat any quality opponent 2x in one year.

Again, do not see MU schedule WW, UMHB, HSU, Wesley, Linfield with their one open date...

I think Mount Union would schedule anyone that would accept. Not many Top 10 teams are willing to open their season against a team that's won 99 of its past 102 games.

[hsucowboyfan]

hey pat,
whos going to do around the south now?

[drinkxs.com]

Ralph, thanks for the info.

What value did WW gain by scheduling a D2 opponent? There loss dropped them in the D3 rankings. Doubt their loss to a D2 school justifies dropping in the poles?

Did their loss hurt them in regional rankings?

[Pat Coleman]

They dropped one spot in the poll. Not a large drop, exactly.

Games against non-Division III teams are not considered in the regional rankings.