FB: American Southwest Conference

[Toby Taff]

What's the deal with UMHB? 

It's 42-0 at halftime.  I imagine they are scoring most of their TDs by only running the ball and not passing.  Come on coach.....pass the ball some!!!

They threw 3 first half td's

[umhbalum]

I believe Trinity is a passing team so it should be interesting.  I also believe I heard them say we were missing one or two starters in the secondary or they were playing but not 100% healthy.  Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

Did the CRU play more prevent and zone coverages with the big lead?

[umhbalum]

I was listening to the game and heard them talking about the possibility of Trinity moving to the number 4 spot and the CRU moving to the number 5 spot due to strength of schedule.  If this happens the CRU will end up in San Antonio for the first round game. 

[jaypeter]

I was listening to the game and heard them talking about the possibility of Trinity moving to the number 4 spot and the CRU moving to the number 5 spot due to strength of schedule.  If this happens the CRU will end up in San Antonio for the first round game. 

Sometimes it's too bad the NCAA doesn't use common sense as one of its criteria.  Maybe I'm fooled by a weaker conference schedule this year, but I still don't think that UMHB is only the 4th or 5th best team in the South Region.  As a Mount Union fan, I have to hope that a down year for a conference doesn't mean a down year for the first place team!

jaypeter

[umhbalum]

I was listening to the game and heard them talking about the possibility of Trinity moving to the number 4 spot and the CRU moving to the number 5 spot due to strength of schedule.  If this happens the CRU will end up in San Antonio for the first round game. 

Sometimes it's too bad the NCAA doesn't use common sense as one of its criteria.  Maybe I'm fooled by a weaker conference schedule this year, but I still don't think that UMHB is only the 4th or 5th best team in the South Region.  As a Mount Union fan, I have to hope that a down year for a conference doesn't mean a down year for the first place team!

jaypeter

I agree with you.  The problem is I've seen the NCAA do things to ASC teams for almost 10 years now that didn't make sense.

[CruGuy]

it's funny how everyone likes to talk about how weak the cru's pass defense is, and yet they lead the nation in interceptions, they're in the top 10 in sacks, and are currently second in the conference in pass defense by about ten yards (the NCAA web site had a defense pass efficiency filter, but had nothing for yards/game), which is pretty impressive in a conference with four of the nations top 12 passing teams...(all these stats are for games through  11/3/07, I understand that they will probably have changed by the time most of yall check them)

Certainly the deep ball has been trouble for the CRU in previous play off runs, but they have many weapons which defend against the pass and open receivers don't necessarily equal weak pass defense

[jaypeter]

One thing on Trinity possibly moving up over UMHB, though.  Their win over DePauw just got a lot more impressive with DePauw's win over an undefeated Wabash team. 

jaypeter

[k-hud]

It would be unfortunate to have to make another trip to San Antonio, but nothing we haven't done before.

Crukid, I don't know how much stock you can put in the whole 4 of the top 12 passing offenses in the nation when they are putting up most of those yards against teams with weak defenses.  UMHB is the only ASC team in the top 50 on the NCAA defense passing efficiency, so it's not like there's a whole lot of top defenses running around conference.  We're allowing an avg of about 225 yards passing, not counting today's game, if you do the math from the NCAA numbers.  Historically this has always been the trouble area for the Cru defense, and I think it's the same this year.  Not saying they can't overcome it, but it will just be interesting to see how things play out in the next few weeks.

[umhbalum]

I attended McMurry for a couple of years (97-99) before finishing school at UMHB in 2002 and I watched pretty good McMurry teams fall short to HSU several times. This is when Braxton was playing QB and Peakcock was at WR. Some of my best memories and friends came from my years at McMurry. As much as I would like to see them beat HSU tonight I think I have to root for HSU to help the CRU's strength of schedule.

[Ralph Turner]

I attended McMurry for a couple of years (97-99) before finishing school at UMHB in 2002 and I watched pretty good McMurry teams fall short to HSU several times. This is when Braxton was playing QB and Peakcock was at WR. Some of my best memories and friends came from my years at McMurry. As much as I would like to see them beat HSU tonight I think I have to root for HSU to help the CRU's strength of schedule.

Unless HSU in the South Region Rankings, the HSU win is neutralized by the McMurry loss for OWP and OOWP.

[CruGuy]

You can talk about weak defenses all you want but MC, LC, HSU, and HPU, and Sul Ross as well all have good quarterbacks with good wide receivers in systems that are fitted for them and they put up gauty numbers week in and week out. Maybe the defenses look so bad because the offenses are so good. tomatoes v tomatoes. They don't put up the same numbers, and don't post the same scores when they play UMHB, and the receivers who do make catches take their licks. At the end of the MC game they had two huge receivers who had great days, but they were also limping all over the feild. I'm sure they wouldn't call the UMHB pass d "weak".  The pass effeciency is a tricky stat and I stay away from it. Part of the problem with it is that it doesn't factor in the sacks, which is the strong part of UMHB's pass defense. It will be interesting to see what they do in the playoffs and hopefully they'll have Elliot Barcak back on the feild. I wouldn't argue that our pass defense is great and obviously it's the "trouble area for the defense" with the run defense being rediculously strong, but i'm much more worried about our inability to throw the ball than our inability to defend the pass.

[kickhoe]

What's the deal with UMHB? 

It's 42-0 at halftime.  I imagine they are scoring most of their TDs by only running the ball and not passing.  Come on coach.....pass the ball some!!!

They threw 3 first half td's

I don't have a clue what they did....I saw the score at halftime and was being a smart arse!!!!   

[Ron Boerger]

One thing on Trinity possibly moving up over UMHB, though.  Their win over DePauw just got a lot more impressive with DePauw's win over an undefeated Wabash team. 

jaypeter

I don't see it.  Trinity lost to Rhodes.  With apologies to Hunter Tigert, Rhodes basically sucked hind teat compared to UW-W.

[k-hud]

passing on both sides of the ball have the potential to be issues, but if the Cru plays  to their full potential on both they'll be just fine... and hopefully make another run like in '04!

[Pat Coleman]

36 Mary Hardin-Baylor  9-1  0.900  0.556  0.491 
140 Trinity (Texas)  8-1  0.889  0.487  0.510 

Not sure why Trinity would be perceived to have a better SOS.