FB: American Southwest Conference

[DPU3619]

They've won 14 out of the last 15 conference championships in football. Not to mention all the other sports that they dominate in the SCAC. If they were to move to the ASC they wouldn't be able to dominate the conference like they do the SCAC. Just a thought.............

Fact checking, my friend, will go a long way.  Actually research the SCAC a little. 

For somebody who whines about karma, you sure do step on a lot of toes.

[hsucowboyfan]

Jimmie also said that he thought this team stood a chance to be pretty good during the preseason.  We all saw how that prediction turned out.

I do hope we re-up with Linfield--they're good people with a good program out there in Oregon, and I've enjoyed seeing them on our schedule the last two years.  I hope they've enjoyed their brief affiliation with us as much as I have with them.
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good one.....but im referring to factual information not opinions.  i think everybody thought the cowboys would be good but unfortunately a defensive downfall didn't help things.

[hsucowboyfan]

oops i see my quote didn't turn out right oh well.  wes i have to agree with yessir on that one.....i think it would be interesting to see trinity play a team like umhb or hsu....it would prove a lot of things.

[DPU3619]

Well, of course. 

Gee, let's see the SCAC's best against the 4th team in the country.  I wonder what would happen.  Let's send anybody except Mount, UWW, and MAYBE Central against 'em in Belton and see what happens. 

But to say that Trinity chooses to participate in the SCAC so they can roll over every other school in every single sport is just plain misinformed, for a lack of a more offensive word.

[Josh Bowerman]

good one.....but im referring to factual information not opinions.  i think everybody thought the cowboys would be good but unfortunately a defensive downfall didn't help things.

My point is that all coaches say things--even things they know, in their hearts, may not be completely accurate.  Because of this, I take everything I hear a coach say publicly with a grain of salt--at least until I see it proven in writing or on the field.

[used2b]

Wow,
    I thought it would be a consensus on the weakness of Trinity and the SCAC. Put Trinity in the ASC & they could easily lose 3 games in any given year. I think Trinity losing this weak by 50 pts would not be too unreasonable of a prediction. (Remember back last year when Millsaps won the Conference and was mashed by a MC team that won 3 ASC games)

[Josh Bowerman]

Adam Schaeffer getting hurt in the Millsaps game was a big part of why MC finished 3-7 last year.

[exmajor]

Wow,
    I thought it would be a consensus on the weakness of Trinity and the SCAC. Put Trinity in the ASC & they could easily lose 3 games in any given year. I think Trinity losing this weak by 50 pts would not be too unreasonable of a prediction. (Remember back last year when Millsaps won the Conference and was mashed by a MC team that won 3 ASC games)

You stirred me out with this comment, again as Wes has said, let's get all the facts before posting a comment like this.  We are talking about the first game of the season, under a new head coach, with a brand new defensive scheme.  It was always Coach Dubose's plan to use the non-SCAC games as a tune-up in 2006, it worked out very well for the Majors last year, a backyard brawl at the end of the season might have had a different outcome. 

I am much more interested in reading specifics about the Trinity vs. UMHB game this weekend!

[Ralph Turner]

Wow,
    I thought it would be a consensus on the weakness of Trinity and the SCAC. Put Trinity in the ASC & they could easily lose 3 games in any given year. I think Trinity losing this weak by 50 pts would not be too unreasonable of a prediction. (Remember back last year when Millsaps won the Conference and was mashed by a MC team that won 3 ASC games)

Put Trinity back into the ASC and they are competitive in every sport, such that they win the mythical all-sports title every year.

UMHB would rarely see the playoffs or win conference crowns in 8 of the 12 sports in which they compete, because Trinity would be one more strong school at the top of the ASC-West...VB, MBB, WBB, Men's and Women's Soccer, Baseball, Softball, M&W Tennis, Men's Golf and giving the UMHB women a good challenge.  UMHB got lucky in the ASC-East not to have Austin College present this year.

I would like to have seen Trinity in the ASC, but they fully committed to D-3 and the NCAA almost 2 decades before UMHB.

Ditto on what Josh Bowerman said about Miss College.  We see how good Adam Shaffer really is.

For the sake of OWP and OOWP, I am grateful for every game that Trinity schedules with an ASC team.

[crufootball]

I saw that nominations for the Gagliardi Trophy are due today, I was wondering what the normal age is of the winner? Is it normally a senior? Mainly I am just wondering if Quincy Daniels has a shot at it. I know splitting yards with Thrasher hurts his stats, but he is still 36th in the nation in rushing yards a game and 15th in the nation in scoring a game. Also he was just named to First Team All-Academic Team for our division and will at least have a shot at Academic All-American team. I am not sure how much time he spends doing community service work, which I believe goes into picking the winner, but he also is a RA in his dorm.

No matter what I am glad the CRU should have him for two more season.

Go CRU, lets win the D3 Texas Championship

[k-hud]

I saw that nominations for the Gagliardi Trophy are due today, I was wondering what the normal age is of the winner? Is it normally a senior? Mainly I am just wondering if Quincy Daniels has a shot at it.

not this year... maybe in the future but a back that is splitting time with another (even in this case when both are outstanding players) is not going to win over a guy that is the workhorse.

[yessir]

They've won 14 out of the last 15 conference championships in football. Not to mention all the other sports that they dominate in the SCAC. If they were to move to the ASC they wouldn't be able to dominate the conference like they do the SCAC. Just a thought.............

Fact checking, my friend, will go a long way.  Actually research the SCAC a little. 

For somebody who whines about karma, you sure do step on a lot of toes.

I did check my stats. The Trinity football team has won the SCAC Conference Championship every year since 1993. Which is a total of 15 years. Subtract one from 15, which is 2006 whenever Millsaps won the SCAC, and you get 14 Conference Championships in 15 years. Maybe your right and the Trinity football website isn't. Yeah I bet that's what it is. So I apologize for Trinity's facts being incorrect. Can you brief us on the actual facts, so we can let Trinity know that they haven't won that many Championships.

I'm not sure how many championships Trinity has won in other sports, but I can tell you they have alot of National Championship trophies in their sports complexes. More than i've seen in any ASC school. If Trinity were to have to play UMHB and HSU in the regular season, they wouldn't be winning all them conference Championships.

[yessir]

Just glancing at Trinity's other sports, they sure have won alot of SCAC Championships in other sports. Particularly in Soccer, Tennis, and Volleyball. Pretty much sweeping the SCAC since 1993. They also have many other conference championships in other sports.

http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/index.htm

Hey Wes, you should go to their athletics website and explain to me why they are not Dominating the SCAC. Maybe you know something that Trinity doesn't??

[Ron Boerger]

Just glancing at Trinity's other sports, they sure have won alot of SCAC Championships in other sports. Particularly in Soccer, Tennis, and Volleyball. Pretty much sweeping the SCAC since 1993. They also have many other conference championships in other sports.

http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/index.htm

Hey Wes, you should go to their athletics website and explain to me why they are not Dominating the SCAC. Maybe you know something that Trinity doesn't??

Why does this concern you?  The SCAC has a formula to compute who wins the all-sports championship.   There are 18 separate sports included in that calculation.  DePauw has racked up the most points the last two years so Trinity has not been "dominant," at least not recently.   DePauw also won the SCAC's last national championship, in women's BB last year.    They also had the women's tennis singles champion.

I think you're just jealous.  Why else do you care about a school that UMHB has regularly defeated in FB the last few years?

[yessir]

I was giving my .02 on why Trinity wasn't in the ASC. That is why I care.........really i don't care. I could care less about Trinity. I was just trying to support one of my theories on why Trinity was not in the ASC. That's all. Then I was told I didn't know my facts.........clearly on the Trinity website it stats that Trinity has won 14 out of the last 15 SCAC Football Conference Championships, yet I don't know my facts......