MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference

[berlychick]

Very well said!

I have only been watching the AMCC for about 6 years...and
both times that Behrend won the conference, as was said did nothing later
It might be alittle bias of me seeing my son played @ UPB...and the fact that Behrend recruited him and when he did visit their campus, to quote the coach "You can look around if you want I dont have time tonight".....
Well their loss as far as I am concerned....


upb

Will Torrey...nice kid didnt play alot but was there all 4 years...

[bimbo coles]

Weekend action in the AMCC

Friday-

Hilbert at Frostburg St. -  Can Hilbert continue winning ways?
La Roche at PS-Altoona  - Can Altoona pull one off at home?
Medaille at Pitt-Greensburg – No answer for Copper, this might get ugly.
Lake Erie at Mt. Aloysius – LE should take care of business.


Saturday-

Medaille at Frostburg St – Can Medaille get #3?!?!
La Roche at Mt. Aloysius – Mt. Alo style too much for La Roche I think.
Lake Erie at PS-Altoona – These are the games Lake Erie needs/ supposed to win.
Hilbert at Pitt-Greensburg – Important game for both.
Pitt-Bradfrod at PS-Behrend – My game of the weekend. Can Race get hot, and knock off Behrend??

Back to the Smith comment about getting kicked off the team, didn't he try to beat up the coach?? Ha.   

[upb88]

Berly... Ohhhh, I remember him as Bill. A senior moment on my part.

Sheek, thanks for the overview and comments. Two games Lake Erie "should" win, but winning on the road is tough in the AMCC. If LEC slips up, it will be an indication maybe they're not going to dominate the conference as some suspect.

[cantbestopped]

sheek,
I too, heard that smith was a bit on the cuckoo side. he could hoop though. I think that their will be some upsets this weekend, home court is overrated when students are on break at most places.

[upb88]

I think it's safe to say home court is overrated, period, in the AMCC. Not that the home teams don't do very well, but it's not because of the fans. I doubt that there's one intimidating place to play in the conference. Heck, I remember how quiet the Junk Center was at Behrend for the AMCC Championship Game against Pitt-Bradford a few years ago! Jeesh. Won by the Panthers, by the way, with Matt Beacom playing his guts out (literally) and the POY not a factor.

[cantbestopped]

Well playing at your home gym is always a little bit of an advantage for the fact that you practice there on a daily basis and the other team plays there once or maybe twice a year.  Familiarity is an advantage whether you think so or not. Also, if you think traveling by bus all the way to Maryland from NY or vice versa is quite a hindrance, no chartered planes in D3. And Beacom was a very good player, but Curren had a lot to do with the success of PSB during his career, matter of fact that year he was the only player on the team averaging in double figures, not bad for a 20-9 team.

[upb88]

I'm not disagreeing that there is a home court advantage for all of the reasons you mentioned. I just don't think crowds, or student sections, are a big factor in the AMCC.

[berlychick]

And Beacom was a very good player,



Now I think that comment is an understatement....a very "good" player...
Matt Beacom for his height was a great player at his position..as I recall and someone can correct me if I am wrong..Career pts...>2000..Career rebounds...>1000...I think that would put him in as one of the great players in that conference...

[cantbestopped]

Good, Great what's the difference my point was, that the kid could play some ball, next time I'll make sure to differentiate the two, but I would still take Curren if I had a choice. IMO
Good     P   Pronunciation Key  (g d)
adj. bet·ter, (b t  r) best (b st)
a.   Having the qualities that are desirable or distinguishing in a particular thing
b.   Superior to the average (see the word good isn't so bad)
Pat Cullinan was a "great" player as well, there now you feel a little better ?                         

[berlychick]

Not really
i think you taking Curren over Beacom is a mistake
maybe I am wrong and if i am i usually admitt it
but exactly in the 4 years that Curren played what did his team do?
(I am taking when Beacom was at UPB)
I think UPB beat them on their floor in the Championship game..so for me I would take Matt anyday over Curren..but then I am alittle bias to UPB...

[cantbestopped]

A little bias is an understatement.....
PSB took two out of three that year
2003-2004 22-4 11-1 AMCC NCAA berth
2002-2003 20-9 10-2 AMCC ECAC berth
2001-2002 18-9 9-3 AMCC ECAC berth
-1350 pts and 600 rebs in 3yrs
*PSB 4-2 against Pitt Bradford over this period                 
Thats not spectacular but not bad, plus Beacom had a lot more help than Curren did, those Bradford teams he was on were good(Rowles,Schneider,Luther) and like i said the year PSB was 20-9 Curren was the only player even in double figures.the following year (22 win year) hairston only other averaging 11 per. And dont tell me Casey Ponsoll or David Hairston were some kind of studs either. Beacom was a very very good player and so was curren I just think Curren had more of a load to carry with less around him, and he was a little more of a team player (not that Beacom wasn't), as far as numbers Beacom was an animal (especially at 6'4"), like i said its just my opinion that i like Curren better(that doesnt mean that he was better)
By the way how many NCAA games did Bradford win in Beacom's career, just curious?
gotta love a little debate, dont ya

[upb88]

4-2? Are you conveniently leaving out the AMCC championship? Yes, two out of three ain't bad, but I think Bradford got the one that they wanted. And if I am correct in remembering that Behrend's run in the NCAA tournament came in 2000, then Curren and Beacom won the same number of NCAA tournament games -- zero. I could be wrong, and I'm sure you will correct me if I am.

Back to 2006 and reality. Panther fans are certainly pining for the "old days" of Matt Beacom. Lion fans have moved on, their team hardly missing a beat since Curren graduated. Unfortunately, that is the sorry state of the Bradford-Behrend rivalry! The rematch at Pitt will be a different story, I assure you.

[cantbestopped]

Yep, I believe neither of them won a NCAA game, but i was just making sure.  And the panthers are missing more than Beacom these days , its seems that they don't get any of the star players they used to in the "good old" days and that's too bad because amongst d3 teams in the east bradford was always thought of highly.  better days are ahead im sure.

[berlychick]

I love a good debate too...

I am not saying that Curren was a bad player..heck he was a good player but I think he alot more talent around him then you give those guys credit...I watched for 4 years..(sometimes in aganist) when we played PSB..and they had alot of talent to help Curren...
the only difference I saw between Beacom and Curren was that Matt played alot bigger than his 6'4" frame...that was proven in the Clarion game that he pulled down 22 boards...

I am not sure why UPB isnt getting the recruits, they have a solid program and a facility that is one of the finest in the AMCC..

but as i said i love to debate basketball...i miss seeing the games so you guys on here keep me honest and updated ....thanks

upb88...do we have to go to the reality of this season right now..saw that score from last nite...can anyone tell me what the heck happen..Louis the high scorer?

And as for being "alittle" bias...wont apoloigies for that....love me some Panthers..
best thing that ever happen to this family in central PA

[upb88]

Berly, on a positive note, Louis is making some nice contributions after a couple of years of being nailed to the bench and being injured.

Behrend outrebounded the Panthers by a wide margin and nailed some big three-pointers. But the key was holding Ryan Race to two points -- a pair of free throws at that.

Elsewhere around the AMCC, Lake Erie remains undefeated in the conference at 6-0. Amazing considering that their head coach resigned just before the season.