MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference

[berlychick]

I hope that you understand that I wasnt addressing anything to you...
I enjoy "friendly" debates and believe me I saw UPB get beaten by PSB and handled it pretty well..(not a very good loser..then I guess who is)
but no beef here with you or actually anyone..just wanted to set the record straight...

As for the AMCC this year...I have yet to make it to a game..
UPB will be in my neck of the woods in a few weeks playing the MT. and PS Altoona...hope to get to both those games...I hate it when work interfers with basketball,,,,

[upb88]

cantbestopped... my apologies. You didn't make the comment about no one else making a run in the tournament. But you did point out that Behrend won two of three the year Bradford beat them for the title. And when calculating the record between the teams during the three years Beacom faced Curren, you didn't include that win, which I thought was curious.

You're right. This is crap. It's ancient history. I'm pretty sure Beacom and Curren have gray hair and arthritic knees by now.

[bimbo coles]

Some surprises this past Tuesday?? Hilbert over Bradford, sorry 'Hawk' but this was a surprise to me, no offense to the Hawks and similar records... Although I do have much respect for Vandersluis who is becoming a force inside for them I question their stability..MTA over Greensburg another one.. MTA might frog jump a few teams this weekend, if they can knock off Hilbert and Medaille (which they will) this weekend.. Frostburg also throwing themselves right back in the middle of the pack, and with the way they have been playing have a high chance of knocking off Greenburg this weekend (who seems to be all over the place).. And Medaille, getting absolutely DESTROYED.. 11 pts at half are u serious.. Maybe the girls team should play both ends of the men's women double headers, because I think they could have put up a better game.. * note McChucker 0-7 from the floor 2 points, WOW!! From here on out all games in the AMCC are going to be big for these middle teams..  8)

[BOKNOWSBBALL]

Statement:

Niland better coach, Behrend better program in my opinion.

Now I can move on.

Looks like Behrend lost a tough one tonight.  Did anyone get to see the game?

[Hawk Backer]

Last Night's Action:

Lake Erie upends PSB, 52-49.  Williams with 18 pts. and 5 rebs. for the Storm, who improve to 7-0 in conference.  Behrend led 24-20 at the break, and by as many as eight in the second half.  Gahan has 14 for the Nittany Lions and Buczynski was held to 11, eight points below his season average.  Behrend falls to 5-2 in the AMCC.

Medaille squeaked out a home victory over struggling PS-Altoona, 64-61.  Scott Hack led the Mavs with 21 points.  (As an aside, could someone please get ahold of Medaille's SID and tell him just how awful a job he does?  It's bad enough the basketball team is horrendous, but La Roche and Medaille are the only schools in the conference that don't have individual boxes).

La Roche holds on to take Bradford, 64-62.  Redhawks built 15 point second half advantage only to relinquish the lead with just under a minute to play.  Nate Davis had the game-winner.  Devin Taylor returned and had 11 points while Rob Copley led UPB with 32 points.  The Panthers have dropped three straight, and Ryan Race has averaged just over six points a game during the span.

Hilbert took care of Mt. Aloysius, 106-88.  Dallas Reinard led the charge with 30 points while Corey Vander Sluis continued his impressive play with 25.  Roman Mims led the Mounties with 22 points in what seemingly was a route.

Today's matchups:

Frostburg St. at Greensburg in a KEY matchup.  Frostburg can jump right back in the thick of things after a horrendous start.

PS-Altoona at Hilbert.  Hawks look to make it three straight this week and jump into third place all by themselves with a little help (and you all scoffed at me?)

Bradford visits Lake Erie.  Storm looks to keep its conference domination going while the Panthers are a team in disarray.

Mt. Aloysius vs. Medaille.  Mavs look for second two-game winning streak of the season against high powered offensive attack.  Also, with a win, Medaille (MEDAILLE) will have three conference wins and be, dare I say, alive in the playoff chase?

Behrend visits La Roche.  Redhawks have been playing well of late but may meet their match tonight.

[upb88]

I think disarray is a bit too strong a word to describe Pitt-Bradford. If they had gotten blown out, yeah. But with the AMCC's leading scorer hobbled and physically unable to contribute much, the Panthers rallied from a 15-point second half deficit on the road to take the lead in the final minute. Maybe a turning point for this team... If another AMCC team had done it, the word of the day might be "gutsy."

[Hawk Backer]

Disarray may have been too strong of a word, but the Panthers are definitely struggling right now.

Lake Erie dominated from start to finish in a 93-67 drubbing.  Richardson and Williams combined for 34 points, 14 assists, six steals and ZERO turnovers on the game.  Wow.  Dan Thomas and Copley scored 36 combined in the losing effort.  Race-DNP.  What's the injury?  Ankle?

Greensburg squeaked by Frostburg thanks, in large part, to Bill Skavincky's 22 pt., 16 reb. effort.  Duke Cooper added 12 and 7 for the victors, who improve to 5-3 in the AMCC.  Cooper hit a FT to break a 77-77 tie.  Frostburg had six players in double-figures, led by DeBerry Jr.'s 14.

Mt. Aloysius murdered Medaille. 107-78.  McNeil had 31 and 9 in the loss, but the over/under on how many shot attempts he had must be close to 50. I would like to see a men's/women's scrimmage between the two Mavs squads.  Would be interesting...

Hilbert edges PS-Altoona, 75-73, in overtime.  Dallas Reinard three-pointer w/ 2 seconds left sends game to extra session.  Reinard finished w/ 32 and 13 boards while Vander Sluis added 15.  Tyler Franklin led Altoona with 24 off the bench.

Behrend upends LaRoche, 53-43, in a defensive struggle.  Bobcats score just 16 points in the first 20 minutes of play.  JJ Ferguson had 14 for Behrend, who remains alone in second place.  Devin Taylor came off the bench for LaRoche to lead the team with 14.

[bimbo coles]

Things starting to shape up in the AMCC or are they?? Still up in the air, except for Lake Erie who after beating Behrend, not convincingly, by 3 standing alone at the top with a 2 game lead.. Behrend forced Erie to play their style, just couldn't pull it out in the end..

Tonight

Lake Erie travels to 4-4 LaRoche

MTA looks to put some space between them and the bottom 5 as they travel to Frostburg State..

Greenburg looks too keep pace with Behrend as they travel to winless Altoona..

Hilbert travels to Behrend, in search of a HUGE win for the Hawks, moving them into a tie for 2nd place!!!

The Mavs travel to Bradford to face a struggling (Raceless??) Bradford team.. Who am I kidding the Mavs are always struggling..

Lace em' up.. 

[cantbestopped]

Hawks 19 at the half  not that much better than mavs 11 huh?

[upb88]

La Roche upsets Lake Erie. The battle for the dreaded home court in the conference tournament is on.

Saw something at Pitt-Bradford that I've never seen: a  Medaille player, Hack I think, got a technical for pulling his shirt up after getting a foul for charging. Just ran down court, in front of the scorer's table, and did a mini Mia Hamm. Odd.

McNeil... is he McChucker? To hear some of you guys on here, I expected to see some scrub. Nice player. 30 some points. And Ryan Race returned with a vengeance.

[cantbestopped]

no "scrub" avgs  20 per game on a team that has no other scorers (because defenses lock in on stopping him), i just stated that the guy is a gun, he shoots the ball 20 times a game damn near thats alot of shots, thats all, hes a hell of an athlete and the kid can shoot the rock, but how much does the rest of his team enjoy watching him shoot all game... 20 shots=20 pts that ratio isnt so hot

[upb88]

He shot well over 50% last night. I guess I don't see the issue with your most talented offensive player (by far) taking a lot of shots. Are you saying he's selfish?

I've admitted before I'm not the most knowledgeable basketball fan in the world, so I'm not familiar with the shot to point ratio stat. But if you make 10 of 20 field goal attempts for 20 points, that seems pretty good. Wouldn't 50% from the field for a season put you among the top 10 or 15 in the conference -- and even more impressive if you're not a down low player scoring a lot of layups and put backs? Please educate me guys -- and for once I'm not being sarcastic.

[berlychick]

Nice to see that UPB got a win last nite!

Nice seeing Race back in the line up..never did hear what happen to him..maybe you could enlighten me UPB88..

Hoping to get to see them in action next weekend @ PS Altoona since the traveling time is cut in half for us...

My son would love to head to Bradford this weekend but with being in the real world of work and coaching..no time

[cantbestopped]

upb,
you're no less educated than anyone else on this board.  shooting 50% at any time isn't a horrible ratio(but he shots 36%), Kobe just got alot of slack for scoring 81 point but he shot 61% (28-46)from the field 46 shots to score 81 pts .  James shoots the ball 20X a game and not to mention that doesn't take into account the FT's he attempts.  If it takes u 10-12 shots a game to score twenty that's good, 20 shots to score 20 is something that anyone of decent skill level can do it.. And believe me its no easier to score down low than it is to chuck up jumpers all game, ask any collegiate post player you know.
To put it into perspective ill use some players I have heard mentioned before (during their best scoring season)
Curren 11 shots/per 18 pts/per   shots on the year (333 shots in 29 gms)
Beacom 15 shots/per 22.5 pts/per   shots on the year (428 in 28 gms)
Smith 11.5 shots/per 20pts/per   shots on the year (308 in 26 games)
Conlon 12 shots/per 17pts/per   shots on the year (313 in 26 gms)
Pringle 12.5 shots/per 17pts/per   shots on the year (328 in 26gms)
Tyszka 13shots/per 19pts/per   shots on the year (320 in 24 gms)
McNeil 19shots/per 21pts/per   shots on the year(304 in about 15 sat all but about 6 min in one) he'll end up shooting the ball 500 X in one year that's amazing, especially to score the same amount the above mentioned scored in far far less. And in Beacom case to score  less as well.

Mcchucker 304 shots
hack 159
reinard 104 (not around anymore)

McNeil + hack =463
Medaille (rest)=452(including reinard 104)
there still in the lead

Not bustin your balls just tryin to shed some light on my opinion, i do think he's a talented player and can light it up, but this is 5 on 5 not one on one isn't it. and wins are more important than pts, i think.
Something a coach once told me, that anyone on a bad team can score points, this isnt football someone has to score. Although 11pts(Mavs)and 19pts(Hawks)at the half is pretty close.

[upb88]

Good post, cantbestopped. I might just print it out and take it to the bathroom for further study. I didn't say I was less educated, just less knowledgeable about basketball. But if you keep schooling me, I might just get my PhD in Hoop Science.

I'm surprised McNeil is shooting only 36%. He certainly shot it well at Bradford. It is an interesting theory: if he shot the ball less, Medaille would have a better chance to win. That seems to be your argument.