MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference

bimbo coles · January 16, 2006, 11:55:47 AM

Top 2 (L.E. and Behrend, until proven otherwise) took care of business this weekend.. Hilbert falls off losing 2 at Frostburg and Greensburg.. Hence negating any talk of them being in the 'top 3'.. Altoona continues losing ways (L4), as does Medaille (L6) who gets absolutely destroyed this weekend, putting "McChucker" on the bench.. LaRoche and MTA both split, Frostburg takes 2, and Behrend rough up Bradford by 23.. 3-8 still a dog fight.. Possibly a clearer picture by next weekends end??

berlychick · January 17, 2006, 12:22:17 AM

yeah i heard that about Ryan, my son actually talked with him
the next day...not a happy group up there
would have hated to be in that locker room....

cantbestopped · January 17, 2006, 10:43:20 PM

couple suprises to me anyhow....bradford loses to hilbert(only suprised because it was at bradford)and the mount beats pitt greensburg...oh yeah and the mavs lose to PSB 69-29 are you serious...11 points for medaille at the half

BOKNOWSBBALL · January 18, 2006, 12:05:50 AM

Saw the Behrend vs. Bradford game this past weekend and was really surprised by the lack of talent and coaching by Bradford team. Ryan Race hit the rim with about two of his shots and threw up alot of junk. It was no contest from the beginning of the game. Bradford's guards were very weak against a decent Behrend backcourt. I cannot see Bradford making any sort of run in the tournament. Bradford didnt run any sort of offense and Race could no one on there team could create a shot.

Behrend looked good but it was hard to tell against a team that really didnt put up any fight. Behrend's defense is good but not that good.

All Bradford could really do was complain to the refs and oh ya Coach Moore got a T again. What is that 200 on his career?

As for the rest of the league, I have not seen many games but Lake Erie. I would love to see that Behrend Lake Erie contest. The rest of the league seems to be chop liver.

cantbestopped · January 18, 2006, 03:08:26 PM

Does anyone know if Justin Ohler is hurt or something? Vander Sluis been putting up some digits, and how about Scavincky shooting 65% from the field wow.

upb88 · January 18, 2006, 03:18:30 PM

Bo, I think you have technical fouls and wins mixed up.

cantbestopped, Vander Sluis dominated the game last night in Bradford. Reinard didn't do much, although he made some big free throws at the end, but that number 50 did the Panthers in. Hilbert is much improved from a year or two ago.

Hawk Backer · January 18, 2006, 05:33:38 PM

Interesting night last night with a few surprises, including what I thought was a pretty big one.

Mt. Aloysius beating Pitt-Greensburg, to me, was the surprise of the night. Greensburg should be the clear-cut #3 team but has lost a few winnable games to LaRoche and Mt. Aloysius. Interesting note: Greensburg has yet to win a road game all season. Very inconsistent.

Hilbert beating Bradford wasn't, to me, a surprise, but I could understand if people thought it might be. With the size that the Hawks have up front, it would have taken a great effort by Race and Co. in order to pull through. Surprised Reinard didn't have a good game, but he's been in a little bit of a shooting funk recently, as has Ufland. They'll need to turn it around for Friday night's game against the Mounties. They'll get plenty of open looks.

Behrend is getting better quickly, and the matchup on Friday between Lake Erie and Behrend will be interesting to see. Two contrasting styles of play and two totally different teams. I wish it were available somewhere on the internet. The rematch will be available on Lake Erie College's radio station at Behrend.

Medaille...29 points? Come on. I think a few Erie area high school teams could have faired better against PSB. Long season again for the Mavs.

Frostburg beat Altoona for its third consecutive win. Give credit to coach Hatch. He has the troops playing a little bit over their heads right now and Keith Hazel is coming into his own as a sophomore. Averaging 23.3 PPG over his last 3 games. Pretty impressive.

Altoona is struggling and I think they are the biggest disappointment thus far this season. With a new coach, it may take a while to get adjusted. Maybe I didn't give Gilliam enough credit with the job he was doing... Who knows. But with four starters back, including two all-conference performers, you would have expected more.

BOKNOWSBBALL · January 18, 2006, 10:48:55 PM

Upb ,

You are right he has more T's then he does wins. His best year was 20-6 not to shabby, but not too good compared with Niland, who has ousted the twenty win mark a number of times and also hit 200 wins in his 12th season.

I have not seen your comparative stats but its hard to compare guys when one guys is a full season behind and holds more wins and not to mention an elite eight run that Bradford may only dream about.

I am not sure but I think you may still be bitter about walking about the behrend campus with your son, who i find it hard to believe that Niland would ever do that to any player, especially if he could play. (just assuming he was a player) probably not by the sound of your posts.

I look forward to seeing the Bradford vs Behrend match up in the future but I am not sure if it will ever be at match up like it was a few years ago.

Bradford has dropped off significantly in the past years and Behrend is improving even with young kids and defending AMCC champs.

Should be a good one on friday. Predictions?

Behrend 67-Lake Erie 65

BOKNOWSBBALL · January 18, 2006, 10:55:25 PM

I apologize.....

Coach moore did have a 23-5 season where they won the amcc but finished 2nd in the conference during the regular season. A great season but a 1-2 record vs. Behrend. Go figure.

cantbestopped · January 18, 2006, 10:58:07 PM

i think LE will take this one at home 72-65, and look for my man tne maverick "mcchucker" to put up 30 or so FGA's against the Mount on sat. but of course they lose by 30. they could beat PSA on friday, ok maybe not.

berlychick · January 18, 2006, 11:30:16 PM

Excuse me Bo is it...
Let me explain...that did happen to my son @ PSU Behrend...by your coach niland...Not really a concern of mine if you believe me or not
and yes my son was a player...went on to play for another team in the AMCC...and he was a good player!
I resent the fact that you would actually think that someone would come on here and lie about something...dont really feel the need to explain but I do feel the need to set you straight that I DO NOT lie about things...

sorry if I sound alittle upset, but I am sure that I havent called anyone elses character into question here like Bo did mine! I am sure that you must be a past PSB student maybe a player, if so I would think you would have more character than that....

upb88 · January 18, 2006, 11:36:55 PM

Bo, you have me mixed up with someone else. I don't have a son who passed on Behrend to star at Pitt-Bradford. I wish that kid was my son!

You make some good points, but you and cantbestopped should probably stop pointing out the year in which Bradford's only victory against Behrend was in the AMCC championship game as if that somehow proves Behrend was the better team that season or something.

I'm not going to repeat the comparative stats. Suffice to say these are two very good coaches with totally different styles with similar records of success. Has the pendulum swung a little toward Nilan in the past year? Absolutely. But I would be careful about predicting that the Bradford-Behrend rivalry will never be what it was. Are you saying Bradford is going to be "down" forever? Sounds like cantbestopped's assertion that Behrend is the only AMCC team that will ever make a deep run in the NCAA tournament. Predictions like that, in sports, tend to reach up and bite you. Sometimes sooner than you think!

berlychick · January 18, 2006, 11:39:17 PM

Thanks UPB....

He is a good kid and as I said...a pretty good basketball player

continues to play and coach even now!

upb88 · January 19, 2006, 12:24:36 AM

All right, enough Behrend vs. Bradford. What are some other good rivalries in the AMCC?

cantbestopped · January 19, 2006, 02:36:28 PM

UPB,
please keep me out of the argument about this crap. My statements were a friendly chat with berly about Curren vs Beacom, and i gave some stats about Curren, after berly asked me what did Curren ever do at PSB. at no time did i ever state behrend was the better team because they won a couple of reg season games, as a matter of fact i remember saying PB had the better teams along that time. An again i have never said PSB would make a deep run or be the only team able to make a deep run in the NCAA. So keep me and BOKNOWS seperate because i never played or attended either school, but i do think they are both decent programs that aren't what they once were (PSB 11-2 but they aren't as good as they were a few years ago), but programs can come back quickly. Sounds to me like you guys are a little chippy because PB had a couple bad years in a row. JMO