MBB: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference

[BOKNOWSBBALL]

How can you say a game doesnt mean anything.  At Behrend, they were playing for seeding, if and when they won the AMCC.  If they didnt win the AMCC, they are playing for a chance to make it.  Every game means something and yes a great team brings it everynight.  Lake Erie is a good team but not a great one. 

As for Richardson being able to start for any D2 or NAIA school.  If he could do that then why the hell is he at  Lake Erie, who up to this year never had a team.  Ridiculous comment.  He may be able to play D2 or NAIA but to start on every team is just flat out ridiculous. 

[ScotsFan]

scots fan i support you and have taken a similar approach by supporting wooster in saying there is no logical way you guys should have any problem advancing past this weekend. transylvania is a good team but not quite on the wooster level

penn, thanks for the vote of confidence.  You have been one of the better reps in here for Wittenberg regardless of the fact that you represent my least favorite program in DIII (Wittenberg) and one of my least favorite programs in DI (State Penn).   For the record, I am pulling for your Tigers in the tourney, as much as it pains me to say it.   That is, up until that possible Elite 8 showdown that would be Witt/Woo IV.   

Personally, no matter what the LEC and AMCC supporters in here say, I just don't see the Storm pulling off the upset.  And bragging about beating Bethany doesn't further your cause IMO.  The PrAC is one of the weakest conferences in the country, so for the Bison to run the table in that conference doesn't exactly do much to impress me.  Wooster was 3-0 against teams from the PrAC (including wins over 2nd place W&J and 3rd place Westminster) with an average margin of victory of 33 points.  So to say their league is sub-par would be a bit of an understatement.

I will give LEC props on their non-conference schedule.  They played some pretty good teams and they were competitive in those games.  It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them be competitive against Witt.  I just don't see them pulling off the upset, that's all.

[thebiggjoker]

The Germans spell it "Wittenberg", too, same as the university in Springfield, OH.

Here's the official website of the city of Wittenberg in the German state of Saxony-Anhalt, world-famous as the town where a monk named Martin Luther nailed the 95 Theses to the door of the cathedral on October 31, 1517 and thus launched the Protestant Reformation:

http://www.wittenberg.de/staticsite/staticsite.php?menuid=84&topmenu=84

I would like to say that I was not referring to the city of Wittenberg that was mentioned in a recent post. I used to study German culture and literature and I was mentioning a smaller city.

For all the haters out there, Richardson came to Lake Erie because of strong recruiting. He came to the school because he liked it. I stand by my statement that he could start for any D2 or NAIA team. I've never seen a guard that can defend him one on one, nor have I seen a team that can stop him from penetrating.

Lake Erie is going to do more than compete against Wittenberg, they are going to beat them. The Storm prey on offenses like Wittenberg's. The only reason that Witt leads the nation is scoring defense is the fact that while playing offense, they lull their opponents to sleep and Lake Erie will have none of that.

[hoopsphanatic]

ok i get it.. bigjoker is just that a big joke...  he is obviously a player from Lake Erie.. past or present..  and its a shame that he has to come on here and try to hype up his team and say comments that just make him look like he has a lack of knowledge of the game.   Richardson very good player YES.. capable of starting on any D2 school NO..  and your comment that he choice Lake Erie over D2 scholarships and such is outlandish..  who would choice a school just off Lake Erie in the cold that only has a enrollment of what 400 kids.. my high school was bigger then that..  

im a big fan of the amcc and the credit it is startin to get.. i mean we got the Woosters and Wittenbergs talkin on this page now which means we are now known as a member of D3 basketball world...  but Lake Erie isnt the powerhouse bigjoker is tryin to make them out to be.. They did lose to LaRoche  and get blown out by a Furgeson-less Behrend team that has been anything but the team they were earlier in the season..    

after all that i still wish Lake Erie all the best in the tournament and expect them to represent the AMCC well but to expect a W and to even predict one is alittle to much... also i wish Behrend luck tonight too.. and UPG as well as they wait for the winner of the Behrend and Wesley game..

the amcc is well represented in Post-season tournys lets see how well they do against other teams outside of the confrence and see if we can get some recognision(spelling)

[upb88]

Lake Erie's enrollment is about 1,000.

Any information on webcasting of the game? LEC's AMCC title game was on the Internet, but I guess I don't have the right software. What about from the Wittenberg side?

Good to see this game getting lots of keystrokes! Speaking of key strokes... go Reggie!

[upb88]

Allow me to answer my own question.

http://www4.wittenberg.edu/news/athletics/broadcast.html

Don't be frightened, I talk to myself all the time. Shut up! No, you shut up!

A big factor in this game is going to be the crowd. Witt's joint seats 3,000, and assuming a sellout, it's going to easily be four times the biggest crowd Lake Erie has played in front of this season. And certainly the rowdiest. That can put pressure on the home team as well.

[thebiggjoker]

I love that just because I seem to bethe only person going to war for my team, I have to be a player. I won't say who I am but if anyone knows, its gotta be a shocker. Anyone thats played at Lake Erie knows me and remembers me. Check the facts before calling me an idiot that has a lack of knowledge of the game. All the only erroneous references that I have really made were me mispelling Wittenberg and saying that Lake Erie lost to a D2 school this season which they didnt. Edinboro lost to Lake Erie.

I'll give it to hoopsphanatic, Lake Erie did lose to LaRoche, but as I stated earlier, it was a controversial game. Yes, Lake Erie did get blown out by Behrend, but it was the last game of the season and the team had already locked up first place. It wasn't like they blew off that game off but it wasn't a huge game for them. I don't believe that anyone has made Lake Erie out to be a powerhouse, though they have been a dominant force in the AMCC for the past two seasons.

Richardson chose Lake Erie because of the school, not the basketball program. Just because he wasn't able to recieve an athletic scholarship doesn't mean that he wasn't able to recieve any scholarship for coming to the school. Lake Erie gives all of its students a scholarship  upon enrollment. The school also makes several other scholarships available. The coach at the time made Richardson feel wanted and that was what was important to him. Everything isn't always about basketball.

It is very true that Lake Erie has not played in fron of many crowds the size of 3,000. Even though they don't have tons of experience playing in fron of large crowds, they do have some. They have played to large crowds at Capital and Bethany. Lake Erie probably has the rowdiest fans in most of D3 basketball. The AMCC commissioner regularly recieves complaints about the Storm fans(listen for them this Friday they will be the one screaming WHERE MY DOGS AT? WOO! WHERE MY DOGS AT? WOO! WHAT TIME IS IT? GAME TIME! WHAT TIME IS IT? GAME TIME!).

[cantbestopped]

My prediction..............

the bigjoker is a current player

that has never studied a bit of german culture or literature

There is by no means a town named Wittenburg at least not in Germany

Aber beweisen Sie mich falsch, weil ich 100 Prozent Deutsch bin

stickin up for your team ("going to war" is the stupiest thing i have ever heard someone say about a basketball game especially in this day when thousands of US troops have died in a real war) for your school is one thing but you are arguing with people trying to defend the storm as well, a_s_s clown

[thebiggjoker]

So you are German cantbestopped? I want to know how you feel about Kamillo Rosenthal's play in the AMCC. Is that how you became a fan of this league? I'm just interested that's all.

When I used the term going to war, I just meant defending the team. I would never try to take anything from the US troops or ANY troops that are out fighting the good fight right now. I have family out there for goodness' sake. I apologize, that is a slang term that I picked up in the area that I come from that just means "to defend".

If you think that I'm a player, who do you think I am. I've never said. I seriously did study some German culture and literature, whether I was educated incorrectly could be a completely different story. If you must know, I translated all by myself, no dictionary needed.

[cantbestopped]

If I had to guess I would say you seriously are a former player that can't deal with the fact that you can not compete any longer....therefore i would go with either Nate Malensek or Mike Rustifo....

Who gives a damn about Kamillo Rosenthal (Munich, Germany)  but.....

He did average about 8.5 pts/per game his freshman/soph season, then he took a year off (maybe because he studies aboard, that means overseas) came back and avg about 9.5 pts/per his junior year, meanwhile he avg about 4 reb a game over his career.

In his senior year of high school he played for Catholic H.S andd averaged 25 pts/per, 7 reb/per and shot 55% from the field.

As I was saying who gives a damn about Kamillo Rosenthal...

Any more tests you got for me there buddy

[hoopsphanatic]

im gonna have to go with cantbestopped and say ur mike rustifo!! or maybe ur point gaurd teammate  crawford..
and i saw you cheering on your team last weekend.. its good to see that...

and Lake Erie isnt one of the best fans in D3... come on if this is a past player.. then you've been to bradfords old gym and played in that S_H_I_T whole when it was packed and could hear your teammate yell out a pick 5 feet away...    but i will give Lake Erie all the credit in the world for getting and amazing new facility from the airplane hanger you had before.. and for bring in recruits such as Harris(who underachivied this year) richardson and the much forgotten but always important Williams who i believe is mister clutch for this time... BIG TIME player in the confrence tourny!!!

but im not hating on LEC at all.. they are becoming a new force in the AMCC... i wouldnt be suprised if the new dominate teams in the league are Lake Erie and UPG... UPG doesnt get much credit but you cant deny them after being top 2 regulars season last 2 years and losing by 1 in the championship the last 2 years.. my heart goes out to that team and Cooper and Winfrey the only seniors...   both of those 2 teams seem to be on the rise in the AMCC.. behrend and bradford seem to be on the decline... and dont forget Hilbert next year either..... and i believe hilberts coach should have been CO-coach of the year by the way..

BUT still i wish Lake Erie all the luck in the world... i wanna see an AMCC team get out of first round besides behrend

[pennstghs]

i hate to admit this but i dont think the witt gym will be at full capacity either night this week as witt starts spring break on friday. dont worry the fan base will still be strong and i dont think lake erie knows what they're getting themselves into. you are looking at a senior-clad and motivated team that is going to be going full force to advance in the tournament. lake erie has eyt to prove themselves

[thebiggjoker]

Wow! I cant believe that people think that I'm Mike Rustifo. No way. He's a great person and I'm glad to see that he and Crawford (I'm not him either) still support the team. I m not Nate Malensek either. Its nice to know that people remember him though. You guys aren't even close.

I think that Lake Erie does have incredible fans. I'm not talking about a numbers game here. I'm talking about NOISE and support. I don't want to knowck the fan base of any AMCC team but Lake Erie has top tier fans.

I would have to agree that Lake Erie and University of Pitt-Greensburg are the new forces in the AMCC. Hilbert is on their way up. I think that Medaille is going to be a sleeper team.

I was very surprised that Hunt got COY. I was expecting Rob deGranpre from Hilbert. He took a 10-15 (8-10) program and took them to the semifinals of the conference tournament the following season.

I had my money on Cooper for POY. I almost fell to the floor when they gave it to Buczynski. No disrespect but he just didn't seem to deserve it like Cooper did. Most people wanted Richardson also. Rumor has it that the AMCC will not give POY to a transfer and both of them were.

Lake Erie has yet to prove themselves??? They beat Edinboro. They beat Bethany. They have also played well in non conference losses.

To cantbestopped: I wasn't attempting to call you out on the fact that you were German. I believe you totally. I was just asking you how you felt about Kamillo, thats all. I just remember him lighting Lake Erie up on more than one occasion. Whatever happened to him anyhow?

[Gregory Sager]

My prediction..............

the bigjoker is a current player

that has never studied a bit of german culture or literature

There is by no means a town named Wittenburg at least not in Germany

I don't know anything about biggjoker's identity, or whether or not he's studied German culture, but the odd thing is that there actually is a town in Germany called Wittenburg. A town, mind you, not a city. Only 5,000 people live there; it's in the northern German state of Mecklenburg-West Pomerania, about fifty miles east of Hamburg. I discovered it by Googling the name "Wittenburg".

Frankly, I think that biggjoker stumbled into an alibi. I know quite a bit about Germany, and I've spent time there. I've never heard of Wittenburg until tonight, and I'm willing to bet that there are hardly any Germans who live outside of a dozen-mile radius of the town who have ever heard of it, either.

On the other hand, every moderately-educated person knows about the city of Wittenberg, because it plays a pivotal role in European history (and, thus, world history) due to its connection to Martin Luther and the Protestant Reformation. More to the point, every Lutheran on the planet knows about the city of Wittenberg -- and Wittenberg University is a Lutheran institution (specifically, it's affiliated with the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America), one that was quite obviously named after the city where the denomination began.

Bottom line, nobody would intentionally spell the school's name "Wittenburg" because "that's the German spelling of the word." The school in Ohio is clearly and obviously named after the world-famous birthplace of Lutheranism, not after some one-stoplight hamlet in northern Germany whose existence isn't even a rumor -- including among the vast majority of Germans themselves.

(Incidentally, this wouldn't be a problem if the word was said aloud, because Germans, unlike Anglophones, pronounce "burg" and "berg" differently.)

[Gregory Sager]

It is very true that Lake Erie has not played in fron of many crowds the size of 3,000. Even though they don't have tons of experience playing in fron of large crowds, they do have some. They have played to large crowds at Capital and Bethany.

The crowd for Lake Erie @ Capital was listed at over 1,200, and that does qualify as a large crowd by D3 standards. But attendance for Lake Erie @ Bethany was only listed at 205.