Pool B

Started by Ralph Turner, October 01, 2005, 02:12:36 PM

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Foss

I think bluenote is just having some fun with the Chicago/Lewis & Clark score and how they compare to Case Western Reserve. However, I do think it's interesting that none of the opponents Case has faced currently have a winning record and right now Washington U. is the only team on their schedule that is above .500.

Case Western Reserve's opponents:

Oberlin (3-5)
Denison (3-5)
Kenyon (2-6)
Wooster (2-6)
Gallaudet (1-5)
Carnegie Mellon (4-4)
St. Vincent (0-8)
Chicago (3-4)

Yet to play:

Washington U. (6-2)
Ohio Wesleyan (3-5)
A packed student section behind an end zone cheering on guys they will actually see in class on Monday is almost as cool as The Streak.

Ralph Turner

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Quote from: Foss on October 31, 2007, 09:26:08 PM
I think bluenote is just having some fun with the Chicago/Lewis & Clark score and how they compare to Case Western Reserve. However, I do think it's interesting that none of the opponents Case has faced currently have a winning record and right now Washington U. is the only team on their schedule that is above .500.

Case Western Reserve's opponents:

Oberlin (3-5)
Denison (3-5)
Kenyon (2-6)
Wooster (2-6)
Gallaudet (1-5)
Carnegie Mellon (4-4)
St. Vincent (0-8)
Chicago (3-4)

Yet to play:

Washington U. (6-2)
Ohio Wesleyan (3-5)

QuoteLet's start putting names and faces together.  We shall assume that the highest ranked team in a conference will get the Pool A bid.

East Region
No. Name In-Region Overall
1. RPI 7-0 7-1                               LL
2. New Jersey 7-1 7-1                NJAC
3. Curry 9-0 9-0                         NEFC
4. St. John Fisher 8-1 8-1           E8
5. Albright 7-1 7-1                      MAC
6. Alfred 7-1 7-1                          Pool C    E8 At Ithaca, at SJF       
7. Hobart 6-2 6-2                        Pool C    LL  At Union, at Rochester
8. Union 5-2 5-2                          Pool C    LL  At Hobart, at RPI
9. Cortland State 5-2 6-2           Pool C   NJAC Rowan, at Ithaca
10. Widener 5-2 6-2                   Pool C   MAC  Albright, at Wilkes

(How many fans has Ithaca picked up from other Pool C teams this afternoon?  Wink )

North Region
No. Name In-Region Overall
1. Mount Union 8-0 8-0                       OAC
2. Wheaton (Ill.) 8-0 8-0                      CCIW
3. Wabash 8-0 8-0                                NCAC
4. Case Western Reserve 6-0 8-0        UAA Pool B #2  Wash U, Ohio Wesleyan
5. Franklin 7-1 7-1                                 HCAC
6. Mount St. Joseph 7-1 7-1                   Pool C  HCAC  At Bluffton, Thomas More
7. Capital 6-2 6-2                                   Pool C  OAC  At Muskingum, BWC
8. Wittenberg 6-2 6-2                            Pool  C  NCAC  At Allegheny, Hiram
9. Illinois Wesleyan 6-2 6-2                   Pool C  CCIW  At NCC, Wheaton
10. North Central 6-2 6-2                      Pool C   CCIW  IWU, at Carthage

NR  Concordia WI                                   IBC
NR  Hope                                                MIAA

South Region
No. Name In-Region Overall
1. Washington and Jefferson 5-0 8-0        Pres AC
2. Wesley 6-1 8-1                                      Pool B #1  at Morrisville State
3. Mary Hardin-Baylor 7-1 7-1                    ASC
4. Muhlenberg 8-0 8-0                               CC
5. Salisbury 4-1 8-1                                    Pool B #3  Frostburg St at Annapolis
6. Waynesburg 6-1 7-1                              Pool C  Pres AC  Geneva, at Westminster PA
7. Trinity (Texas) 6-1 7-1                            SCAC
8. Randolph-Macon 7-1 7-1                        ODAC
9. Ursinus 6-1 7-1                                       Pool C  CC  Muhlenberg, at Dickinson
10. Hampden-Sydney 5-2 6-2                     Pool C  ODAC   Huntingdon, at RMC

NR  NCWC                                                   USAC

West Region
No. Name In-Region Overall
1. UW-Whitewater 7-0 7-1                  WIAC
2. St. John's 8-0 9-0                             MIAC                                 
3. Central 8-0 9-0                                IIAC
4. St. Norbert 8-0 9-0                           MWC
5. Bethel 7-1 7-1                                  Pool C MIAC  Augsburg at Metrodome, SJU
6. Wartburg 8-1 8-1                             Pool C IIAC  at Cornell, Central
7. Linfield 4-1 5-2                                  Pool B/C  NWC at Whitworth, L&C
8. Occidental 6-1 6-1                            Pool C SCIAC (CLU has tie-breaker) Chapman, at Whittier
9. Redlands 6-1 7-1                              Pool C SCIAC Whittier, at CLU
10. Whitworth 6-1 6-2                          Pool B/C  Linfield, at Puget Sound

NR  Cal Lutheran                                            SCIAC  at PP, Redlands




Case's OWP and OOWP are already figured into this week's rankings.  We see lots of games that will impact the NWC, but right now, Linfield needs some favorties to beat the contenders to move up to the table for the selection process.

The good news that I see in the North Region is that there are some very solid teams that are likely to run the table.

I think that it would be tough for the 3rd team left in the Region after the Pool B's to get a Pool C bid.

Right now, I think that Linfield is about 6th on the Pool C list.

Buckeyes75

Interesting yes, but they are scoring 39 a game and allowing 12. So even though the schedule is poor they are still getting the job done. This weekend will be judgement day for Case to see if they are legit or not.

bluenote

Ralph Turner....I've run your theory through the computer and we found it has flaws.

Foss....I still have your tape from the ESPN 2004 Playoff Interview. Pat ...was pretty correct in his analysis.


PS.....I have heard that the Wildcats will be pulling out a trick play from......"Frosties Trick Book"

Foss

Thanks, bluenote - I'll get it from you. I remember Coach Locey giving some love to the D3football crew during his interview.

Buckeyes75, Yeah, I agree with you on the Washington U. game. If they can beat Washington U., which is a decent team, they'll deserve some respect. If, however, they can't beat the only team currently with a winning record on their schedule (and it's at home), that will also tell us a lot about them.
A packed student section behind an end zone cheering on guys they will actually see in class on Monday is almost as cool as The Streak.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: bluenote on October 31, 2007, 11:21:07 PM
Ralph Turner....I've run your theory through the computer and we found it has flaws.
Thanks for testing the theory!  What did your analysis show?  :)


K-Mack

Wow, that was about as useless a two pages of reading as possible.

Nice work guys!
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smedindy

Useless? No, not useless. It did kill time, right?
Wabash Always Fights!

bluenote

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 01, 2007, 01:30:04 AM
Quote from: bluenote on October 31, 2007, 11:21:07 PM
Ralph Turner....I've run your theory through the computer and we found it has flaws.
Thanks for testing the theory!  What did your analysis show?  :)



...we're not sure yet.  But Deep Blue was calculating until it blew a vacuum tube.  :D

PA_wesleyfan

Quote from: bluenote on November 01, 2007, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 01, 2007, 01:30:04 AM
Quote from: bluenote on October 31, 2007, 11:21:07 PM
Ralph Turner....I've run your theory through the computer and we found it has flaws.
Thanks for testing the theory!  What did your analysis show?  :)



 

...we're not sure yet.  But Deep Blue was calculating until it blew a vacuum tube.  :D


Poor Deep Blue probably tried to incorporate what the comittee is thinking and their past decisions defied logic!!! ;D
Football !!! The ultimate team sport. Anyone who plays DIII football is a winner...

bluenote

Quote from: K-Mack on November 01, 2007, 01:43:28 AM
Wow, that was about as useless a two pages of reading as possible.

Nice work guys!

Reminds me of when I get home from a Linfield game and go to the NWC page. The 10 pages of play by play kill me.      ::)

K-Mack...will you be putting together a scenario for pool b/c after this weekends games?

PA_wesleyfan

Ralph

Wesley's #1 owp probably has helped with them being ahead of UMHB at this point. The fly in the oinment in the ACFC and owp,oowp with both Wesley and  Salisbury is that  Frostburg St has only played 3 in region games and the 4th is against Salibury (three of those teams have 1 loss) which will raise FSU's owp, oowp even higher
Football !!! The ultimate team sport. Anyone who plays DIII football is a winner...

K-Mack

Quote from: bluenote on November 01, 2007, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on November 01, 2007, 01:43:28 AM
Wow, that was about as useless a two pages of reading as possible.

Nice work guys!

Reminds me of when I get home from a Linfield game and go to the NWC page. The 10 pages of play by play kill me.      ::)

K-Mack...will you be putting together a scenario for pool b/c after this weekends games?

It was on the original plan for this week's ATN.

In any case, you pretty much know what I think:
Pool B 1: Wesley
2: Salisbury
3: Case if they win this week
Good chance in B/C: Linfield/Whitworth winner.

I get that Linfield and Case head-to-head wouldn't be a good game (we think), but that's not how the playoff selection process works.

As far as a C projection, you'd really have to wait until a lot of the AQ clashes shake out.

I could provide a list of those.

As far as Pat & Gordon's official projections, yeah, I would expect some mid-week next week if not sooner.
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MonroviaCat

Quote from: bluenote on November 01, 2007, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on November 01, 2007, 01:43:28 AM
Wow, that was about as useless a two pages of reading as possible.

Nice work guys!

Reminds me of when I get home from a Linfield game and go to the NWC page. The 10 pages of play by play kill me.      ::)

K-Mack...will you be putting together a scenario for pool b/c after this weekends games?
Ouch.....some guys need the play by play :)
Go Cats!

d-train

Quote from: K-Mack on November 01, 2007, 03:50:06 PM

In any case, you pretty much know what I think:
Pool B 1: Wesley
2: Salisbury
3: Case if they win this week
Good chance in B/C: Linfield/Whitworth winner.

I get that Linfield and Case head-to-head wouldn't be a good game (we think), but that's not how the playoff selection process works.

As far as a C projection, you'd really have to wait until a lot of the AQ clashes shake out.

Yeah, Pool C is much more interesting at this point...