Pool B

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wally_wabash

Quote from: smedindy on October 16, 2018, 11:39:16 AM
I don't know. If the NEWMAC feasts on each other, TMC may have enough SOS to overcome the 6-3 record.

I think anybody who wins the NEWMAC with an 0.800 win% or better is an easy pick over TMC with a sub-0.700 win%.  The Saints needed to steal one from UWP/Muhlenberg/St. John's (they did) and win the rest to have a legit chance.  The NCWC result really sinks them.  If they stay clean until Week 11, they *might* be able to play in with a win in Collegeville.  But that's a really big ask. 
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Quote from: wally_wabash on October 16, 2018, 11:50:32 AM
Quote from: smedindy on October 16, 2018, 11:39:16 AM
I don't know. If the NEWMAC feasts on each other, TMC may have enough SOS to overcome the 6-3 record.

I think anybody who wins the NEWMAC with an 0.800 win% or better is an easy pick over TMC with a sub-0.700 win%.  The Saints needed to steal one from UWP/Muhlenberg/St. John's (they did) and win the rest to have a legit chance.  The NCWC result really sinks them.  If they stay clean until Week 11, they *might* be able to play in with a win in Collegeville.  But that's a really big ask.
I am following NCWC as sneaking in as USA South champion and landing the 10th slot in the final regional rankings. that might have given TMC a  RRVO of 1-3, best case likely scenario.  NCWC's loss to Averett really hurts Thomas More.

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WPi beats MIT.
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Quote from: The Mole on October 27, 2018, 03:52:29 PM
WPi beats MIT.

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Final week and Thomas More goes to St John's,
MIT can beat Springfield to have the edge from the NEWMAC.

FCGrizzliesGrad

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
Final week and Thomas More goes to St John's,
MIT can beat Springfield to have the edge from the NEWMAC.
They'd have to jump Merchant Marine in the rankings wouldn't they? Merchant Marine was ranked 8th while MIT wasn't ranked last week.
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 04, 2018, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
Final week and Thomas More goes to St John's,
MIT can beat Springfield to have the edge from the NEWMAC.
They'd have to jump Merchant Marine in the rankings wouldn't they? Merchant Marine was ranked 8th while MIT wasn't ranked last week.
...and I think that they will. They will get nice a bump in the SOS with the win over Springfield.

MIT has the head-to-head against Merchant Marine and identical conference W-L records, which I think would earn the Pool A bid in nearly every other conference.

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 04, 2018, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
Final week and Thomas More goes to St John's,
MIT can beat Springfield to have the edge from the NEWMAC.
They'd have to jump Merchant Marine in the rankings wouldn't they? Merchant Marine was ranked 8th while MIT wasn't ranked last week.
...and I think that they will. They will get nice a bump in the SOS with the win over Springfield.

MIT has the head-to-head against Merchant Marine and identical conference W-L records, which I think would earn the Pool A bid in nearly every other conference.

Yes. But this isn't an automatic bid, and Merchant Marine plays nine games, not seven.
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wally_wabash

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 04, 2018, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
Final week and Thomas More goes to St John's,
MIT can beat Springfield to have the edge from the NEWMAC.
They'd have to jump Merchant Marine in the rankings wouldn't they? Merchant Marine was ranked 8th while MIT wasn't ranked last week.
...and I think that they will. They will get nice a bump in the SOS with the win over Springfield.

MIT has the head-to-head against Merchant Marine and identical conference W-L records, which I think would earn the Pool A bid in nearly every other conference.

USMMA is going to have the higher SOS at the end of the day on Saturday.  This is an interesting case where, if this were an AQ conference, MIT would get the tournament spot if MIT and USMMA both win on Saturday.  But USMMA has a better at-large profile and the East RAC doesn't have to honor that "tiebreak" if USMMA's profile is better than MIT's and it is, despite the h2h result.  I'm in agreement with FCGG here that the East RAC has signaled a preference for USMMA in the case of NEWMAC co-champions. 
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Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 04, 2018, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
Final week and Thomas More goes to St John's,
MIT can beat Springfield to have the edge from the NEWMAC.
They'd have to jump Merchant Marine in the rankings wouldn't they? Merchant Marine was ranked 8th while MIT wasn't ranked last week.
...and I think that they will. They will get nice a bump in the SOS with the win over Springfield.

MIT has the head-to-head against Merchant Marine and identical conference W-L records, which I think would earn the Pool A bid in nearly every other conference.
MIT has Springfield which is 7-2. Merchant Marine has Coast Guard who are 6-3. Going into the final game USMMA have a .540 to .466 advantage in SoS. It will get a bit closer but not by very much.
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 04, 2018, 03:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 04, 2018, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
Final week and Thomas More goes to St John's,
MIT can beat Springfield to have the edge from the NEWMAC.
They'd have to jump Merchant Marine in the rankings wouldn't they? Merchant Marine was ranked 8th while MIT wasn't ranked last week.
...and I think that they will. They will get nice a bump in the SOS with the win over Springfield.

MIT has the head-to-head against Merchant Marine and identical conference W-L records, which I think would earn the Pool A bid in nearly every other conference.
MIT has Springfield which is 7-2. Merchant Marine has Coast Guard who are 6-3. Going into the final game USMMA have a .540 to .466 advantage in SoS. It will get a bit closer but not by very much.
I guess that I will have to root for USCGA in the Secretaries Cup. (Disclaimer: A friend of mine has a son playing for CGA.)

wesleydad

H2H should win out.  MIT beat USMMA so they should be in.  Both teams will be better than Thomas More after they lost to St. Johns.

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Whats cool is the playoffs have already started for the three teams still alive for Pool B. 

TMU is an underdog in what could be their NCAA swansong.  I look forward to seeing this game in person. 
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Smitty Oom

Mainly a MBB D3er and just a very casual FB fan, so forgive my ignorance here... but why does the NEWMAC not get a Pool A bid for football? If I remember correctly I thought Springfield made the tourney last year, this mean they received a Pool B bid?