FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[HScoach]

What are the chances an O-lineman can win the Gagliardi?

Derek Blanchard: Mount Union Gagliardi Award nominee in '07 - in recognition of Division III's top football student-athlete.

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Has anyone heard from Purpled on here lately?

[Mr. Ypsi]

A Mount Union Cheerleader knows that 60 points on the board means she's going to do 312 push ups! 

Hey Rscl70:

It actually depends on how Mount get's the 60 points.  If Zimmerman hits 20 field goals then the cheerleaders would actually be doing 630 pushups in that contest.  Sound crazy...yeah just as crazy as the Bengals who scored 21 points on 7 field goals yesterday. 

How many different combinations of touchdowns, extra points, field goals and safeties can there be to reach 60 points and how many push ups would result from each?  Perhaps some math student could work on this for a project, but not me and certainly not at 6:53 AM!  Maybe hscoach could add a line to the pickems....How many push ups will Mount Union Cheerleaders do next Saturday? 

Deep sigh!  I should probably preface this by saying that I graduated with a double-major in Mathematics and Computer Science. 

There are 586 different possible ways (combinations) to attain 60 points with 2, 3, 6, 7, and 8-point scoring plays.

Unfortunately, the number of pushups is also dependent on the order of those scores (permutations) so there are many more possibilities.  As my fellow geek altor computed, over 2.7 billion combinations.

But we don't need to check all permutations to determine the limits of the pushup problem.  The worst case scenario for the buxom cheerleaders is 30 safeties, leading to 930 pushups.  The best case is 6-7-7-8-8-8-8-8 point scores which only requires 259 pushups.

Here endeth today's math exercise.  You may now resume hosing down the post list with testosterone.

Cheers!
Mom

Mom,

I already posted the maximum and minimum possibilities earlier, but we each get an A-, at best.  Max is indeed 30 safeties, 930 pushups (I erroneously said that came to 900), but minimum is 2-6s, followed by 6-8s, for 258, 1 less than 6,7,7,8,8,8,8,8.

Now we really must leave these math-phobes to nurse their headaches!

[bushman]

HS Coach drives a train!  How fun.

[jaypeter]

so many comments, so little time!  Damn these report cards.  I'm looking forward to the playoffs once again.  I can't leave the "OAC is a weak conference" thread alone, though.  Yes, the OAC is having a down year.  Yes, the other top teams in the conference were not as good this year as years past.  But it is a load of bull to insinuate that playing in the OAC makes it a cake-walk for Mount Union. 

When you go back over the past few years, and compare the scores, statistics, and other game information when MUC played the second and third or even fourth place teams in teh OAC with their scores, statistics, and other game information for their playoff games, you see a much closer comparison.  The playoffs are full of 1st and second place teams that only sometimes played Mount Union as closely as ONU, Capital, and even JCU a few years back.  Yes, the bottom tier of teams in the OAC is weak, but there's hardly a conference out there that doesn't have one, two, or even three poor teams year in and year out with the possible exception of our Wisconsin brothers.  Yes, even the E-8 has Utica and Norwich.  Add two more teams to your conference, and we'll see how good those teams are.

I will give you the argument that the E8 may be harder to win because there's fewer teams, and it is a top-heavy conference, so each game is "worth" more than in a 10 team conference.  But Mount Union still has to play teams of similar caliber to win the OAC.  They have to play teams that as a group could probably match up well with SJF, Ithaca, and Springfield.  If the E-8 is so strong, why does almost every non-Hartwick fan claim that they are a bad team?  A bad team shouldn't be able to win a strong conference.  This year, they are probably a fairly good team that may have gotten a few lucky breaks...I'm just not that familiar with their story. 

Like I said at the beginning, yes, this has been a down year for the OAC.  But to call us patsies or powder-puffs or some of the other things (I'm a priest, I have to be careful!) is to not realize that the OAC is a conference on similar level with the E-8.  I personally don't think that Mount Union will walk through the post-season with their starters only playing the first half, but if they are as good as they have shown, it sounds like they should be able to survive a difficult bracket.

Just my $.02 (or maybe $.04 since I rambled).  Now it's back to report cards and then off to class.

jaypeter

[Shark]

Nice article in the Alliance Review about LK and D3

http://www.the-review.com/news/article/2845781

[Shark]

The most interesting defense stat for me is that the team's leading tackler is a DEFENSIVE TACKLE!  That's just plain sick.  

If McCullough isn't an All-American, then something's wrong.

That really is amazing. He is a beast.

[4u]

Tags to riches:

Did you really state that Mount Union will not beat Ithaca, R.I.P., or Fisher Price by more than 30?  The only way that becomes true is if they beat Ithaca by 28 and they never play the other two teams.  If they play all three teams, I venture to say they beat at least two of them by 30+. 

I know St. John Fisher played them well last year, but the Raiders have a history of smoking teams they see back-to-back years.  Also, the past two seasons, MUC has not had a game in the first two rounds closer than 32 points.  I am going out on a limb to guess that this MUC team-- which is loaded-- will win two of their first three by 30.

For the record, I am a John Carroll grad and not, at all, a fan of Mount Union.  I do, however, respect them.  I think after they take the East to the woodshed, there will be a greater respect factor,
4u

[runyr]

Nice article in the Alliance Review about LK and D3

http://www.the-review.com/news/article/2845781

Thanks, Shark.
LK is an enlightened soul.  He's a great inspiration for anybody, even if he goes one and out against Ithaca.

On Ithaca:  I can promise you one thing.  No one will respect Ithaca more than LK. 

[runyr]

RUNYR
MUC'S 1st string def has giving up 3pts

Thanks, HURFMUC, I stand corrected.  +k for you.

[reality check]

RC

HOW DO YOU LIKE IT OUT WEST

This time of year?  I hate it!  I can't get excited about the Sun Devils and all this D3 playoff hype so far from home is murder.  My season is over with the high school kids.  As a program we went from 2-26 last season to 13-15 this season.  I'm very proud of that!  The football highlight for me for the rest of the season will be Dec. 2.  An old ONU buddy that lives in Tucson and loves the Browns offered me a ticket to the Browns/Cards game and I'm pretending to be a Browns fan to go to the game for free.

But everything else out here is great.

Back to football talk...


Will Otterbein's 14 points be the most given up by Mount all year long?  Predictions?

[HScoach]

Will Otterbein's 14 points be the most given up by Mount all year long?  Predictions?

No.  But close.   I'd say 20.

[SaintsFAN]

reality,

The Cardinals should have a shot at that game, since they don't have to play Matty boy at QB. 

hscoach,

20 total in the EAST REGION?

[jaypeter]

I think Mount can have more than 20 put on them.  I wouldn't be surprised to see 21 or possibly even 24. It seems that every year there's at least one return against Mount Union for either a TD or deep into their territory.  If a good offensive team gets a set up like that, they could score two other offensive TD's.  I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen.  I don't know how likely, but it wouldn't surprise me.

As for margin of victory, I think we could see a fairly steady 20-30 point differential in the first two rounds and then a 14-21 sort of spread after that.

jaypeter

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Tags to riches:

Did you really state that Mount Union will not beat Ithaca, R.I.P., or Fisher Price by more than 30?  The only way that becomes true is if they beat Ithaca by 28 and they never play the other two teams.  If they play all three teams, I venture to say they beat at least two of them by 30+. 

I know St. John Fisher played them well last year, but the Raiders have a history of smoking teams they see back-to-back years.  Also, the past two seasons, MUC has not had a game in the first two rounds closer than 32 points.  I am going out on a limb to guess that this MUC team-- which is loaded-- will win two of their first three by 30.

For the record, I am a John Carroll grad and not, at all, a fan of Mount Union.  I do, however, respect them.  I think after they take the East to the woodshed, there will be a greater respect factor,
4u

Tags to riches... wow.

And yes, I did say that I don't think any of those three will lose by more than 30. That statement doesn't take anything away from a great MUC team, one that will more than likely win it all. That statement simply reflects my feeling that the East will be able to hang w/ MUC, and that it's not a cupcake region.